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Chicago: First US Gun Tax 'Will Stem Carnage'
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Posted on 11/03/2012 1:15:22 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Chicago: First US Gun Tax 'Will Stem Carnage'

There are hopes a levy will reduce attacks in the President's adopted city, although he has been largely silent on gun control.

7:40pm UK, Saturday 03 November 2012

By Gary Mitchell, in Chicago

A leading anti-gun campaigner has told Sky News a new tax on guns will help end "carnage" on the streets of Chicago - where firearms now change hands for just $20.

There have now been more than 440 murders in Barack Obama's adopted home city so far this year, surpassing last year's total of 435.

Most involved gang shootings in the south and west of the city. It has been dubbed America's "murder capital" with a higher rate of killings than New York or Los Angeles.

Cook County, which takes in Chicago, has become the first place in the US to introduce a firearms tax.

Father Michael Pfleger, pastor of St Sabina Church in the city's South Side, said the $25 levy is a start.

"Guns are causing carnage on our streets," he said.

"Anything that makes them harder to get hold of, no matter how small, is to be welcomed.

"We tax things like alcohol and cigarettes, but we haven't been taxing firearms.

"But I'd prefer if the tax was a lot higher, and if every single bullet was taxed."

A proposed tax of five cents per bullet was abandoned by Cook County because the tax would, in some cases, have exceeded the price of ammunition.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; chicago; democrats; democratutopia; illinois; taxes; uselessidiot
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Yep, problem solved.........
1 posted on 11/03/2012 1:15:26 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

So the gangbangers who sell drugs and make enormous amounts of cash will think twice about being able to afford a 25 dollar tax on thier illegal gun? mindnumbing


2 posted on 11/03/2012 1:19:05 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: Sub-Driver

so, are the youth gangs going to make sure that they buy their guns from legally licensed dealers, which means that they will pay the appropriate taxes on all of their weapons????

Since Chicago already has strict guns laws on the books, I’m surprised this is an issue in the Windy City. (sarcasm) If guns are outlawed, or ammunition outlawed, or all transactions are taxed, that for sure will eliminate the carnage. (more sarcasm)


3 posted on 11/03/2012 1:19:31 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego ('s)
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To: Sub-Driver

so, are the youth gangs going to make sure that they buy their guns from legally licensed dealers, which means that they will pay the appropriate taxes on all of their weapons????

Since Chicago already has strict gun laws on the books, I’m surprised this is an issue in the Windy City. (sarcasm) If guns are outlawed, or ammunition outlawed, or all transactions are taxed, that for sure will eliminate the carnage. (more sarcasm)


4 posted on 11/03/2012 1:19:40 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego ('s)
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To: Sub-Driver
where firearms now change hands for just $20.

Anybody paying $20 for a gun isn't buying it from a dealer and won't be paying the tax.
5 posted on 11/03/2012 1:19:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wow, was this a kickback to the black market gun sellers. It sure worked for the tobacco stamp tax. When are we simply going to rid ourselves of these fools who think legislation replaces personal responsibility?


6 posted on 11/03/2012 1:20:18 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Taxes.....is there anything they can’t do?


7 posted on 11/03/2012 1:20:34 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Kind of like saying taxing marijuana will cut down on drug use. ROTFL! Political types are morons. They are the reason why we have so many problems in this country. They ALWAYS think that taxes are the solution to EVERY problem.


8 posted on 11/03/2012 1:22:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Red Cross says, Vote For Obama!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Criminals pay taxes? Who knew?

/johnny

9 posted on 11/03/2012 1:22:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Sub-Driver
They can't seriously believe this. So why do they bother saying it?
10 posted on 11/03/2012 1:23:29 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Sub-Driver

Idiots!!


11 posted on 11/03/2012 1:23:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

That’s how it starts. To tax guns, they need to know who has guns. That’s registration. After registration there’s confiscation.

But not for the crooks and criminals, who the politicians deliberately let keep their guns so they can prey on the productive members of society and do a little “income redistribution.”


12 posted on 11/03/2012 1:29:33 PM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: Sub-Driver

Are these people really that stupid?

Anyway, that tax is illegal. Unless of course they are willing to bring back poll taxes...

“You cannot apply a tax or a fee to the exercise of a Civil Right”.

Those idiots must not remember that McDonald v. Chicago incorporated the 2nd Amendment under the 14th as a Fundamental CIVIL Right.

Chicago is going to get raped over this in a lawsuit or dozen.


13 posted on 11/03/2012 1:29:47 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The Marxist Pflager should be ex-communicated. These people cannot be so stupid as to think a tax will curb gun violence.


14 posted on 11/03/2012 1:31:20 PM PDT by rashley (Rashley)
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To: Sub-Driver

Thank you, G-d, for delivering me from Chicago.


15 posted on 11/03/2012 1:33:08 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The Rahm Emanuel-Obama-Chicago way: Impose a high gun tax on responsible gun owners... and then give free guns to Mexican drug lords so they can kill US border agents and fellow Mexicans.


16 posted on 11/03/2012 1:34:17 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The Marxist Pflager should be ex-communicated. These people cannot be so stupid as to think a tax will curb gun violence.


17 posted on 11/03/2012 1:34:35 PM PDT by rashley (Rashley)
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To: Sub-Driver
Chicago: First US Gun Tax 'Will Stem Carnage'

FOOLS!

The ones that will be paying the tax AREN'T the ones causing the carnage.

Why not just let the gang-bangers pay for their OWN patch jobs, or just leave their thug asses bleeding in the street!

18 posted on 11/03/2012 1:34:53 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Sub-Driver

They need to tax barbarians!


19 posted on 11/03/2012 1:35:02 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: ronnie raygun
"Blistering idiots."


20 posted on 11/03/2012 1:35:18 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 1)
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To: gundog

How will they enforce it?


21 posted on 11/03/2012 1:35:24 PM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hideously stupid. If you live in Chicago you deserve everything coming your way. I hope good people leave places like this in droves.


22 posted on 11/03/2012 1:36:18 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (I advocate indentured servitude for the 47% until the national debt is eliminated.)
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To: Sub-Driver
OMG!

Gangbangers are running scared from a $25 levy!!!

Frigging Idiots!

23 posted on 11/03/2012 1:39:11 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama helped murder US Navy SEALs.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I want just ONE of these liberal Democrats to explain how charging a $25 tax on each new gun purchase will “stem the carnage” on the streets of Chicago.


24 posted on 11/03/2012 1:40:38 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (People will vote for Obama to replace a god that they don't believe in)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is good. it can set up a challenge that a gun tax (like a poll tax, or newspaper tax) is an “infringement” of the right to keep and bear arms. Then, we can end the NFA tax silliness regarding silencers and machine guns.


25 posted on 11/03/2012 1:40:47 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: Sub-Driver

does anyone really believe that bilge?


26 posted on 11/03/2012 1:46:14 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Sub-Driver
If one were intelligent and/or honest, one could make the empirical observation that crime in cities is inversely proportional to the percentage of law-abiding gun-owning citizens.

If one were intelligent and/or honest.

27 posted on 11/03/2012 1:46:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yup, certainly.
After all, it’s law abiding citizens who do all those shootings in Chicaggy, right Democrats?


28 posted on 11/03/2012 1:46:53 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The deaths by murder are directly proportional to the number of black boys that fail to graduate from high school.


29 posted on 11/03/2012 2:01:52 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Sub-Driver.
A leading anti-gun campaigner has told Sky News a new tax on guns will help end "carnage" on the streets of Chicago... Father Michael Pfleger, pastor of St Sabina Church in the city's South Side, said the $25 levy is a start... "But I'd prefer if the tax was a lot higher, and if every single bullet was taxed." A proposed tax of five cents per bullet was abandoned by Cook County because the tax would, in some cases, have exceeded the price of ammunition.
Yeah, y'know, because crooks never break the law, or manage to evade taxes -- unless they run for office on the Democratic Party ticket.


30 posted on 11/03/2012 2:03:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: bert
The deaths by murder are directly proportional to the number of black boys that fail to graduate from high school.

But the fact that they fail to graduate from high school is Whitey's fault.

31 posted on 11/03/2012 2:04:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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Chicago: First US Gun Tax 'Will Stem Carnage'

LOL. These people are so stupid.

5.56mm

32 posted on 11/03/2012 2:07:10 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Beelzebubba
it can set up a challenge that a gun tax (like a poll tax, or newspaper tax) is an “infringement” of the right to keep and bear arms.

I didn't even consider that. I like the way you think.

/johnny

33 posted on 11/03/2012 2:08:41 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Sub-Driver

Recently up here in the UP of michigan some of my neighbors whom own a camp ( fancy word for a house and property as a second home) from Chicago, Illinois were talking talking to me aout this tax on guns. It will drive the legitimate gun purchaser away from Cook County and go to an outlying county to purchase a legally purchased gun. Yes the criminals will not go about purchasing a gun through the legal means. Cook County in its infinite wisdom does nothing but create problems with its wisdom is actually stupidity at its finest. Wonder where Obama got all his intelligence from the best of Cook County legislative brain trust - collectively known as Democrats - better known to the people of Illinois as the dumbkopfs of Crook County. This has been cleaned up to keep it nice and clean with no offensive profanity. Look forward to next year and the camp being filled about again from the hunters from Illinois.


34 posted on 11/03/2012 2:09:04 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Sub-Driver

I’ll bet that the Round/Bullet Tax follows within two years.


35 posted on 11/03/2012 2:12:57 PM PDT by BobNative
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To: Slings and Arrows

I agree!


36 posted on 11/03/2012 2:14:28 PM PDT by BobNative
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To: Sub-Driver; flaglady47; mickie; Chigirl 26; Bushbacker1; prairiebreeze; hoosiermama; oswegodeee; ...
"440 murders in Chicago so far this year...."

Rahm Emanuel ( 2008): "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before".

"Put some ice on that" has been replaced by "slap a tax on that".

Leni

37 posted on 11/03/2012 2:23:46 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Sub-Driver

“How will they enforce it?”

If the money doesn’t go into the general levy, it will go into a “Special Fund” designed to be used to “curb violence” etc, etc..

What it really does is requires the formation of another “department” that will require workers to “oversee” the funds and work with “partners” in “anti-gun violence programs”.

This is another money laundering scheme. Friends go on the new payroll and “administer” the program and hand out funds to other friends. It’s the oldest political dodge in the books but it works like a charm.


38 posted on 11/03/2012 2:27:18 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: ronnie raygun

How about making gun CRIME laws tougher, Cook County?


39 posted on 11/03/2012 2:28:05 PM PDT by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: Sub-Driver

No question the chi town “leaders” are idiots,but

surely they know it won`t do a thing to lower murderes

Just another tax


40 posted on 11/03/2012 2:36:16 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yep....the first 10,000 anti-gun laws were stupid. This one ought to do the trick. What gangbanger wants to pay that tax?


41 posted on 11/03/2012 2:40:35 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers

Liberals truly are mentally deranged.


42 posted on 11/03/2012 2:42:34 PM PDT by novascotianative
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To: Sub-Driver

“A leading anti-gun campaigner has told Sky News a new tax on guns will help end “carnage” on the streets of Chicago - where firearms now change hands for just $20.”

Mind boggling stupity! How many of these thugs buy their weapons from gun shops where they would have to pay the tax? Zilch, Zero, Nada. There are millions of guns available in the US and a tax in Chicago isn’t gonna stem the carnage one iota. Your wanna end the carage you gotta get rid of the thugs, not the guns. Start executing a few of the murdering thugs within a month of their murder trial. Now there’s some carnage for you. Better yet, just let the thugs keep executing each other. Give thugs a reward for executing another thug. Makes about as much sense that the anti-gun campaigner.


43 posted on 11/03/2012 2:45:50 PM PDT by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Recommend they tax the air the gun owners/buyers breath too.


44 posted on 11/03/2012 2:47:44 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: ronnie raygun

Could make some good comedy skits out of this lunacy.


45 posted on 11/03/2012 2:52:28 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Sub-Driver

Maybe it will stem carnage. The state doubling taxes on the rich has gotten a lot of those people to move out of the state.


46 posted on 11/03/2012 3:15:35 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Sub-Driver

I yield to comments I saw earlier this week. There are many clever and verbally gifted individuals out there. I quote

“The stupid ...it burns!”


47 posted on 11/03/2012 3:19:44 PM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Sub-Driver
Want to stop the carnage in Cook County? Allow the honest people to buy guns for defense. Then, make it an unlimited bag limit on thugs shot dead by the potential victims. The county can pick up the dead thugs and dump them in the county incinerator. When the thugs figure they may be on the endangered species list, they might stop with shooting up “da ‘hood”. Make it painful, dangerous, and deadly for thugs and you get their attention.
48 posted on 11/03/2012 3:59:06 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: BCR #226

“Anyway, that tax is illegal.”

Thank you. I was going to mention that I believe that taxing a constitutional right has been ruled illegal by the federal courts.

Taxing bullets, votes or words are equally anti-American.

If we can find a way to float Chicago to North Korea, I’ll chip in my meager carpentry skills for free.


49 posted on 11/03/2012 4:00:14 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Sub-Driver
Cook County is the most corrupt place west of Port-a-Prince. This gun tax is just another rake-off.
50 posted on 11/03/2012 4:12:55 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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