The False Notion of "If It's Not Close, They Cannot Steal"

Stop repeating this nonsense. The dumb way to do it would be to stuff ballot boxes or find a bag full of extra votes. But the easiest way would be to hack machines. Then, it doesn't matter if the state is Oklahoma. All one does is change the first number (as follos):

If Total Republican vote in machine is 778,392 and Democrat vote is 321,292 (Not close, right?)

Just change the first numbe 7 for Republicans to a 5, and change the 3 in the Democratic vote to a 6. So then: Republicans 578,392 Democrats 621,292.

Also, if they need more, just add an extra "1" in front of the Democratic vote: It becomes 1,321,292. You can literally find millions of votes this way. So throw out that dumb saying about "If it's not close" -- they can manufacture millions of votes very easily.

“I have no clue what controls are in place at my local voting precinct. I have this vague notion that both sides have poll watchers at each location and that there exists somewhere some procedures to ensure that the vote is fair and not modified. And presumably those procedures include making sure that the machines software has been tested by both sides and secured. But I don't know that for sure.”

Yeah, like we all assumed there were sufficient safeguards to ensure a non-natural born American would never be on the ballot for president?

Electronic voting machines can be hacked, and imperceptibly so—that's according to one of their design engineers who testified before Congress a few years back. He was arguing AGAINST using the machines he designed!!

Thanks for the link. I appreciate the RNC's efforts but "calling for changes" does nothing. We shall see come Tuesday.

“I further understand that the causes of this problem are varied, and include miscalibration and hyper-sensitivity of the machines,” he acknowledged. But he called for four actions at the state level:

All voting machines be recalibrated before Election Day.
Denied or ignored by state officials
Additional technicians in the event of further issues.
Denied or ignored by state officials
Sign notification reminding voters to double-check the correctness of their ballot in the machine before final submission.
Denied or ignored by state officials
Verbal guidance to remind voters to make sure that the ballot they cast is correct.
Denied or ignored by state officials

Above numbers, to make the point simply, of course are exaggerated. One would think that a large scale cheating operation would be more sophisticated. But the point is that cheating on a larger scale is possible.

If you’re familiar about some of the recent races (Sharron Angle vs Reid, the Daschle race he won narrowly), you’ll see that cheating is not always just small scale. Does it really happen?

Well, who is the Senior Senator from Nevada today?

im sorry, I remain unconvinced. The Angle vs Reid was close, if you think Angle went in with everyone thinking it would be a blow out I can’t help you. With exit polling, poll watching, and local rolls and reporting the type of fraud you are talking about just can’t happen without A LOT of people being complicit, and the more people involved the larger the odds it gets found out. And being found out in something like that is far far worse than losing in the first place.

There are many ways to cheat. I have documented the ones that I have encountered in my many years of election activities.

My short book on vote fraud for fellow Freepers:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1991953/posts

Report on recent election and new vote fraud methods:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2621405/posts

More info on vote fraud methods:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2615479/posts

As you can see, some fraud methods are MASSIVE such as creating tens of thousands of phantom voters out of thin air. I documented this happening in California.

Another method common in my state is, if the Election Judge and Clerks are all crooked dims, they just wait until after the last voter has left at the end of the day. Then they lock the door and CAST A BALLOT FOR EVERY VOTER WHO DID NOT SHOW UP. The clue is an all-dim crew and 100% turnout in a precinct. Just check and you will readily identify problem precincts from previous elections with 100% turnout.

There is no sense crying about this AFTER the election. The ONLY defense is to have Republican Alternate Judges, Clerks, and Poll Watchers.

Freepers, go sign up with www.truethevote.org or similar organizations in your state. If you cannot volunteer, then donate. I did! They are the most effective anti-fraud outfit I have ever seen.

Go to the problem precincts in the worst neighborhoods. Don’t be alarmed. True the Vote has been doing this for several years. Despite a few loud mouthed thugs threatening them, the only actual assault was a dim Clerk pushing one of our little old ladies who was also a Clerk.

It’s a lot safer than than being on the battlefield. This time, the enemy is domestic as they try to overthrow our Constitution using lies and fraud rather than troops on the ground.

Thank you for being the patriots who will save our country!

Believe me, every trick Sarah can come up with has been tried or is being used!

See my post on this thread for a primer on the MANY methods of vote fraud.

Poll Watchers? I live in one of the most conservative areas of the country. We cannot get enough volunteers to cover even the worst precincts!

We desperately need more volunteers.

[ I’ve seen some outlandish conspiracy theories and dumb ideas posted over the years here, but this one has to qualify for “hall of fame” status. ]

WHY... in some States you dont even need photo ID and if produced is rejected.. WHo is to say voters do not vote twice OR twenty times.... WHo is to know.. or even CHECK.. NOT that its even possible to check..

THIS IS HAPPENing NOW>...

"Yeah, like we all assumed there were sufficient safeguards to ensure a non-natural born American would never be on the ballot for president?"

Exactly!!! It's in the constitution, we all thought it was settled law. Now we know...

No legislative body ever set up a procedure to check.
No executive did either.
Worse, we can't even seem to get legislation to check passed because politicians are afraid it will be perceived as an attack on a sitting president and a portion of their base will revolt.
And on top of that, we've got rogue states like Hawaii that have failed to follow federal law and have made citizenship available to foreigners.
And the definition of Natural Born Citizen is not settled law either because both the judiciary and the executive are confused or feigning confusion.
"Electronic voting machines can be hacked, and imperceptibly so—that's according to one of their design engineers who testified before Congress a few years back. He was arguing AGAINST using the machines he designed!!"
They certainly can. I'm sure that procedures can be designed to insure to everyone's satisfaction that they are accurate and the code is stable and protected. But that's not easy and I seriously doubt that most places have sufficient protection in place.
Anyone with physical or online access to those machines can likely download software modifications to them. And without a paper trail and some kind of audit, there is no way to know if the vote recorded is accurate. Exit polls serve as a red flag, but I read the MSM is pulling back on exit polls.

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