Skip to comments.Pols see polls point to Romney triumph; ‘hidden vote’ to crush Obama
Posted on 11/01/2012 3:13:29 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
The tidal wave of anti-debt, anti-big-government voters that swamped Democrats in the 2010 congressional elections is readying itself again, poised to sweep Mitt Romney into the Oval Office, some political observers say.
Its very, very likely, veteran Republican campaign pollster John McLaughlin said, predicting a Romney tsunami Tuesday.
Romney has surged in all the target states, Mr. McLaughlin said. The undecided vote is not really undecided. They overwhelmingly disapprove of the job the president has done and will largely vote against the incumbent. Its a hidden vote that will vote against the president.
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Lots of mainstream media fawning over Obama, Christie, and oversampled polls....here is a reasonable alternative.
The MSM thinks Obama is the Comeback Kid.
In their alternative universe, perhaps.
The rest of us would be only too happy to see him goosed out of the Oval Office!
In poker do you tell the other guy what your ‘really’ holding? No.
In combat do you give up your location
to the enemy before taking your shot? No.
When hunting deer do you yell out really loud before taking your shot? No.
It’s ok to tell your team where they stand not the other team.
My name is tomkat, and I approve of this outcome !
It is based on the last election (2010) and early voting statistics...not wishful thinking.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
Obama = Carter. Obama worse than Carter. Romney = Reagan (sort of). Result = tsunami vote against Obama.
The same thing happened in 2010 and in the WI recall, they were amazed at the GOP vote.
Look at the internals of the polls that have Obama even or up one and you tell me that the dems have the same enthusiasm or more than 2008. Please, in what reality is that going to happen today. You can already see in early voting that Obama does not have the same mojo.
Then take into account when they are polling blue states they get 8-11% telling the pollster they are undecided 5 days out from the election...tell me in what year you have seen that...Uh no, at most this last week, there is 1-3% undecided and you have a lot of people who are not telling pollsters they are either not going to vote or refusing to tell that pollster in a dem state who they are going to vote for. I would be a little worried about those votes if I was a dem.
The next little trick you need to look for is how much they over sample women.
One more thing to really get you to think about momentum....when a presidents party looses big in mid-term elections he almost always goes on to loose.
As well as Bob McDonnell`s thumping of Creigh Deeds on 2009. Going into election day, polls indicated a 9-12 point margin, but McDonnell won by 18+.
We GOPers, Conservatives and other patriots have control over the destiny of this country. If we want Obama gone badly enough, we`ll overrun the dems not only for the White House, but the Senate as well. It can be done if we`re sufficiently motivated.. we`ll soon find out.
U.S. demographics have changed a lot since 1984. Bluntly put, there’s not enough white voters today for the GOP to ever duplicate Reagan’s curb stomp of Carter and then Mondale. Still, Hussein is going down.
I’m seeing lib comments on Yahoo spinning a Romney win. They are blaming Obama’s loss on public disgust of gridlock caused by Republicans.
National polls show Romney winning independents by double digits. Large sample polls by Gallup and Rasmussen also show the turnout this year will be more Republican than Democrat.
However, pollsters still cling to turnout assumptions that are not simply equal to the Democrat 2008 turnout numbers (the Democrats’ high water mark historically), but well in excess of that number.
You win independents by double digits, and you’re looking at a landslide.
Those who lived through the Carter years, prayed that Americans would not in the future, vote for liberalism again, especially after the Carter experience.
Time dims memories, and the older and wiser generation that fought socialism prior to and during WWII began to die out. The young radicals of the 60’s, who rejected their parents’ values, moved into positions of power, and little by little started dictating their new version of “truth”. The rally cry in the late 60’s and early 70’s was that “The media is the message”. So they took over the means of dispensing the message. Fortunately the public has alternate means to obtain the truth, other than the MSM.
Hopefully on Tuesday, when the American voters reject the Obama version of community organizing, socialism, and outright Marxism, we will turn from the current nightmare, and have a new birth of freedom, and responsibility.
Unfortunately socialist are deeply dedicated to the imposition of their desire for a socialist state, and will use any means to obtain that end. All you have to do is look at the reemergence of socialism in Russia, and the present Institutional Presidency with its many socialist czars, with no accountability to the American voter.
Yeah, the voters hate what those darn rascally Republicans did so much, why they voted many, many more of them into power! LOL!!
What is Best in Life, Romney ??
To crush Barack Obama. . .
To see him driven before you. . .
And to hear the lamentations of the Democrats. . .
That is Good!!
The “hidden vote” are folks (primarily white) who bought into Obama’s hope and change rhetoric in ‘08 but now have serious buyer’s remorse. However, they don’t cotton to the idea of being called a racist for changing their vote, so they’ve primarily kept quiet. But their millions of votes will speak volumes.
Do you know what the popular vote percentages were in those two landslides? I have predicted a 358-180 electoral win for Romney with a 55%-45% popular vote. (I know - I am a cockeyed optimist.) I wonder if my two predictions are compatible.
LOL! Gotta love the MSM's sad attempt to emotionally manipulate the masses!
hidden vote to crush - Like there is something dark, sinister and dangerous lurking in the electoral shadows.
With voter fraud in 2008, some areas had more votes than registered voters, especially in large Democratic controlled urban areas. Do we really think that they won't do this again? We really need an energized turnout to offset the type of fraud that took place in 2008.
Chavez actually lost in Venezuela, but then those who counted the votes took over the election. Will we have the same type of scenario occur here in the US? Wasn't Jimmy Carter part of a UN election monitoring team in Venezuela? didn't he put his seal of approval on the corrupt vote? Hasn't the current administration invited the UN to monitor our election
Look at what happened in Minnesota when the Democratic machine kept recounting the votes until Al Franken won. There has to be an enormous flood of conscientious, conservative voters on Tuesday.
Percentage 58.8% to 40.6%
United States presidential election, 1980
Percentages 50.7% to 41.0%
Thanks. I would say my slightly less landslidey predictions for the electoral and popular splits could work.
John Anderson (I) took away 5,719,850 popular and 6.6% in 1980.
Is the 1984 Reagan rout the worst in election history?
295 R, 243 O
Self-interest is the ultimate motivator. The history of our country shows that immigrants (legal or otherwise) eventually move into the middle-class. As they do, the same self-interest for themselves and family push them to the things conservatives believe in. Yes, the demographics are changing, But the demographic members are also changing. That's why the Democrats have to keep bringing in more and more immigrants. They MUST replace all those immigrants who become Americanized and Capitalized---and begin to vote Republican because that is who they have become!
Don't forget that we Americans have a tendancy to rebel against that type of effort. The real counter-culture these days are the conservative youth. There are more than most people think.
He’s not running against Bob Doleful.
First item on the agenda for the new administration: VOTER REFORM
I think it may be the largest EV total, perhaps the largest EV percentage (maybe Roosevelt’s was higher in ‘36, I don’t know). As far as PV goes, it was not a record. Johnson’s clobbering of Goldwater in ‘64 is still the largest PV percentage, at least in modern elections (Washington’s was higher, but that wasn’t much of a contest).
The first item had better be kicking every last one of Obozo's unelected "czars" and their minions to kingdom come!!
I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves -- let's get the election over with first. But conservatives will need to watch Romney very carefully in those first few months. His actions (or lack thereof) dismantling the Marxist sub-government will be telling.
The over/under on Obie electorals is 100.
“Is the GOP relying on a sudden, undocumented, surge of enthusiastic Republican voters to wash Obama from the White House? This is not a sound policy. Is it based on wishfull thinking or do pundits really perceive a mass GOP vote? How realistic is this? “
Nope. The GOP is basing its strategy on private, internal polling, which is conducted to paint an accurate picture with the aim of optimally directing resources and strategy, and paying no attention whatsoever to public polling whose primary function is to either 1.) Help Obama win the election by misleading and confusing people, 2.) Keep people tuning in to the media outlets because the election is “close”, or 3.) Both of the above.
If this is a hidden vote, it’s hiding in plain sight.
Let's "sacrifice" all the extras government has given us. Cut departments of Energy, Education, Agriculture for starters. Cut, combine, merge, eliminate.. Post Office....there's no limit.
The pending economic boom--kicked off with Mitt's energy policy--makes all things possible.
Sorry, don't work that way 'round here, pilgrim.
You've had 'enough' when we say you've had enough !
(with, not at ;-)
I believe the electoral vote for George Washington in 1788 was unanimous.
Michael Barone on Megyn Kelly’s Noon show on FOX made a good case for the “hidden” vote to be due to the lack of polling of voters who only have cell phones.
Barone’s reasoning was that since it is more expensive to poll cell phone owners, this segment of the voter pool is under sampled.
Any FReeper out there who might add that video to this thread? It happened about 1240 hours.
but if those idiotic "constitution" party voters would have voted republican, there would have been no recount, no funny business....
Maybe you’re missing something...
As long as two years ago, the bloom was off the rose as far as working blacks is concerned.
The shop where my husband worked only had a couple “Bitter dem clingers”. The rest were totally disgusted with THE one.