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The truth about the tea party
politico ^ | 10-20-12 | Joe Scarborough

Posted on 10/21/2012 6:51:05 PM PDT by cdchik123

"Why is the Tea Party destroying the Republican Party?”

That’s a leading question that I have been asked repeatedly from media pundits and Democratic politicians over the past three years. Over that time, Democratic politicians and media pundits have almost universally accused the Tea Party of bringing ruin to the Grand Old Party. According to this skewed narrative, Republican leaders were once bipartisan, rational and almost worthy of getting invitations to Georgetown cocktail parties. Now they are Manchurian candidates held captive by the right-wing beasts whose only goal is to infect the minds of real-life Nick Brodys who dominate the U.S. House.

Sometimes, mainstream publications and Democratic leaders even go so far as to say kind things about Ronald Reagan as a way to attack the Tea Party. They speak glowingly of Reagan and contrast him with the barbarians who now run the Republican Party. This, of course, conveniently overlooks the nasty attacks Reagan once endured at the hands of those who now cynically praise the 40th president.

But let’s not get bogged down by history. Instead, we can blow apart this fanciful meme by reviewing the Tea Party’s short history. Let’s simply review how terrible the Tea Party has been for the GOP.

— They energized a conservative movement battered by eight years of bloated Republicanism,

— they shocked the political world by taking Ted Kennedy’s seat

— they put Obama Democrats in a constant defensive crouch

— they led the resistance against Obamacare,

— they helped bring about the largest legislative landslide in U.S. history in 2010,

— they grabbed six seats in the U.S. Senate that year,

— they helped elect six governors,

— they helped win 700 seats in state legislatures, and

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: teaparty

1 posted on 10/21/2012 6:51:12 PM PDT by cdchik123
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To: cdchik123

Bump and tagline.


2 posted on 10/21/2012 6:52:36 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: cdchik123
they shocked the political world by taking Ted Kennedy’s seat

Taking the seat was great but pro abortion Brown is no tea partier.
3 posted on 10/21/2012 6:54:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cdchik123

The Tea Party hasn’t done half the damage to the Republican Party as this jerk has. He was a RINO in Congress and now he’s a Democrat in a GOP suit.


4 posted on 10/21/2012 6:56:12 PM PDT by kempster
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To: cdchik123

The Republican Establishment and their herd of RINOs are what’s destroying the GOP. The Tea Party are the only one’s preserving conservative values and as this article proves, we are working to ensure that those values are carried on by removing those who don’t live up to those values and usher in new leadership of those who will.


5 posted on 10/21/2012 6:57:39 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: cdchik123

What the heck? MSNBC’s token faux conservative makin nice witht he Tea Party???? What the heck is going on? Either he wants to get back ointo politics or he is trying to boost his abysmal ratings by luring some conservative viewrship. IT WON’T WORK, JOE. Mika and the other MSNBC nitwits on your show make it unwatchable.


6 posted on 10/21/2012 7:03:04 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Maybe next election we will have our own party so we don’t offend them anymore!!


7 posted on 10/21/2012 7:03:31 PM PDT by lu shissler (an take his naiv)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
Um, Joe Scarborough? He honestly wrote this?

These are mainstream ideas that used to permeate both the republican and democratic parties. Not just the Tea Party.

And Joe used to espouse the very same.

As most normal Americans still do.

8 posted on 10/21/2012 7:04:54 PM PDT by boop (I weary of the chase. Wait for me. I shall be merciful and quick. ...)
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To: boop
This might explain it..........


9 posted on 10/21/2012 7:12:28 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: boop

The lightbulb has just gone off in his RINO brain. When Obama loses and NBC cuts their losses, Joe is going to have to go somewhere if he wants to eat.

This is his attempt to regain (or just gain) credibility.


10 posted on 10/21/2012 7:17:00 PM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: cdchik123
Maybe even Scarborough is beginning to understand the Tea Party was right all along about the great economic disaster which would result from the so-called "progressive" policies of spending, deficit and debt. Of course, America's Founders knew it all along and warned of the dire consequencees:

"To preserve [the] independence [of the people,] we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:39

"I deem [this one of] the essential principles of our government and consequently [one] which ought to shape its administration:... The honest payment of our debts and sacred preservation of the public faith." --Thomas Jefferson: 1st Inaugural, 1801. ME 3:322

"I sincerely believe... that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity under the name of funding is but swindling futurity on a large scale." --Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1816. ME 15:23

"[With the decline of society] begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia [war of all against all], which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man. And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:40

11 posted on 10/21/2012 7:27:23 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: cdchik123

Tea Party’s been pretty terrible to YOU, too, Schmo.

People are waking up to the fact that YOUR crowd is the worst enemy of the American people-—you slobs are whores for this sodomite in office, and when he hits the skids—guess what?—you and your ilk are gonna feel the unemployment numbers just like we have. No one is gonna forget the role YOU played in this. No one.


12 posted on 10/21/2012 7:29:06 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

When the tea party backs good candidates, they are the best America has to offer.

Unfortunately, the tea party backs people only with a certain ideology, some are good and some are bad.

Christine O’Donnell- you would not want her to run a kids lemonade stand or rent your spare bedroom.

Sharon Angle- not a bad person, but against Harry Reid, you want to send up a professional like Sue Lowden, not an amateur.

The no name idiot in NY-23- It amazes me that he has a wife because as a deaf mute, he could not ask her to marry him. But I guess he could have written the proposal on a piece of paper.

Todd Akin- snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and a loss in MO when almost anyone could have beat the crook McCaskill.

Tea party is wonderful, but the first litmus test must be competence above ideology.


13 posted on 10/21/2012 7:32:48 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: cdchik123

The Leftist scum would kill their parents to have something comparable to the Tea Party. Since they don’t, they just hammer what we have. Tango Sierra.


14 posted on 10/21/2012 7:34:31 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: cdchik123

Joe has made so many headspins on this that’d it’d take Regan MacNeil to keep up with him.


15 posted on 10/21/2012 7:34:59 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: lu shissler
Maybe next election we will have our own party so we don’t offend them anymore!!

That's going to have to happen because the youngest republicans are mostly democats and they are the future of the GOP.
16 posted on 10/21/2012 7:43:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cdchik123

re: “”Why is the Tea Party destroying the Republican Party?” That’s a leading question that I have been asked repeatedly from media pundits and Democratic politicians over the past three years.”

It’s so sweet that the Dems are worried about the future of the Republican party - those mean ol’ Tea Partiers! (sarc.)


17 posted on 10/21/2012 7:50:56 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: cdchik123

HEY JOE! JOE SCARBOROUGH, YEAH, YOU!

When you write “ - - - But let’s not get bogged down by history. - - - “ , you have just made the point that you do not understand where the Taxed Enough Already came from.

The GOP has embraced long ago the values of the “Me Too” Republicans In Name Only, (RINO), Party.

These RINOs are dedicated to Caving-In to Democrats, an infinite expansion of the Federal Welfare Entitlement Plantation, and infinite taxation to those with ability, and infinite help to those in need.

One might say that the RINOs and Democrats are two sides of the same Marxist coin. Fittingly enough that coin is the US Penny, which can pay for nothing by itself, and each penny costs 1.5 pennies to mint.

To return to “History” Joe, remember the Press, (yep, Media was not a big term back then), railing on and on about “Voter Apathy?”

Remember all the lamenting about “The Silent Majority?’

What happened to those two groups of voters, Joe? Where did they go?

Will there be a “Silent Majority” watching tomorrow night as the Media Moderator “Crowleys” ANOTHER Presidential Debate?

Will there be “Voter Apathy” in 2014 if Romney does not totally repeal Obama”care?”

On a wrap of one of your morning show broadcasts entitled “ Just Sip, and Pull the Snuggy Socialist Blankee over our heads today, New Yorkers” ask why NONE of your “guests” are from The Silent Majority of the past decades?

Ask rather, why voter apathy resides only in the soon to be irrelevant RINO Party?

BTW, tell Mica that we appreciate her dramatic eye-roll as it helps us identify the hot-button topics that we Conservatives need to emphasize to get America back on the Right Track.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82677.html#ixzz29zNav6p1


18 posted on 10/21/2012 7:53:09 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: cdchik123

I thought he was talking about the Democratic Communist Party which is a card carrying member whether he says he is Republican or not.


19 posted on 10/21/2012 8:03:01 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Rembrandt
I'm stunned by how the MSM has demonized the "Tea Party". AFAIK, they don't even speak of "social issues" like abortion or race or gay marriage.

All they want is a return to Constitutional government.

Primarily taxes and spending.

If you ask a "regular guy" on the street what he thinks of things, betcha he's in tune with the reviled "Tea Party" 90% of the time.

20 posted on 10/21/2012 8:11:30 PM PDT by boop (I weary of the chase. Wait for me. I shall be merciful and quick. ...)
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To: staytrue

In regards to the Missouri GOP Senate primary, wasn’t the TEA Party supporting Sarah Steelman, Missouri’s former state treasurer? I remember seeing images here on Free Republic of Sarah Palin campaigning with, and on behalf of, Sarah Steelman, not Todd Akin.


21 posted on 10/21/2012 8:29:41 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Trying does not guarantee certain success, but NOT trying guarantees certain failure.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

bump and grind!!!


22 posted on 10/21/2012 9:18:14 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("The New Normal," is FAR from any normality!!!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Bumping, hoping that someone will see this thread and answer your question definitively

I think you are correct, but am not certain.


23 posted on 10/22/2012 7:07:41 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: cripplecreek

You consider Brown no “Tea Party” due to his abortion stance, but please consider the following with regard to that issue:

If a SCOTUS appointment (or any other judge, for that matter) were to come up, and an anti-abortion candidate were to be nominated, do you believe that Brown would vote against that candidate?


24 posted on 10/22/2012 7:49:56 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: AFPhys

Moderates are nothing but lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.

If that offends you, you are a moderate lacking the courage to be the democrat you really are and utterly unworthy of the slightest pretense of respect.


25 posted on 10/22/2012 8:21:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SC_Pete

Scarborough is a true MSNBC kook, in my view.

In the full article, he states, “... [the] so-called conservative [GOP] party had shoved through a $7 trillion Medicare drug plan...”

Needless to say, this statement bears no relation to reality. It seems he took the Wikipedia article about Part D, and multiplied their 700B$+ number by ten or some such.

Reality is that PartD was estimated by CBO in 2004 to cost on the order of 500B$-550B$ over ten years. By 2007, they had dropped that estimate by $136B, and this year it is revealed http://catalyst.phrma.org/new-congressional-budget-office-findings-show-medicare-part-d-continues-hold-line-costs/ “CBO is now projecting Part D is costing 43 percent below its original 2004 estimate.”, eg., 298 Billion Dollars. In addition, this number does not include the savings which accrue from using drugs instead of a surgical procedures in many instances.

Those who criticize Part D really need to do more homework. I continue to wonder whether it actually saves us money we would otherwise be putting into the other “Parts” of Medicare.

That Scarborough uses that particular successful program, instead of other big spending projects, to criticize the GOP is appalling.


26 posted on 10/22/2012 8:31:14 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: AFPhys

Thanks for the info. I had not looked into it myself. I suppose it makes sense for a fake conservative to criticize a Bush initiative.


27 posted on 10/22/2012 8:52:05 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: cripplecreek

That does not offend me. I agree. It does not answer the question I put to you, collectively, though.


28 posted on 10/22/2012 9:30:17 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: AFPhys
I don't answer your question because you "moderates" are unworthy of an answer. Now be a big boy and ignore me because I certainly have no intent of letting people forget what a bottom feeding scumbag Scott Brown really is.

Scott Brown presses Republicans to be ‘more inclusive’ on abortion

Brown blasts back: I am a pro-choice Republican
29 posted on 10/22/2012 9:46:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
I certainly have no intent of letting people forget what a bottom feeding scumbag Scott Brown really is.

For all his faults, though, Scott Brown is:

a. A vote for organizing the Senate.

b. And a vote for repealing Obamacare.

Thus, several magnitudes better than the alternative, Princess Fauxcahontas.

30 posted on 10/22/2012 9:56:07 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: okie01

Yeah don’t let a few abortions stand inn the way of winning.

I’m sure your maker will understand when you explain it that way.


31 posted on 10/22/2012 9:59:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Yeah don’t let a few abortions stand inn the way of winning.

That is a hateful thing to say...but I'll ignore it.

But do you really believe that we can make any legislative or judicial progress on the issue without first having a Republican President and a Republican Senate?

32 posted on 10/22/2012 10:18:06 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: okie01
That is a hateful thing to say...but I'll ignore it.

That's OK, maybe God won't notice.
33 posted on 10/22/2012 10:20:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
There is no such person elected to office in Mass. as a "conservative" Republican. Nevertheless, it has unfortunately been necessary for conservatives to depend on RINOs in order to get ANY legislation passed. Unfortunately, the GOP has historically not been able to reliably secure candidates in truly conservative states. They have not done so well in Michigan, either. If the conservatives in conservative states had proved more capable of pulling some votes in for legislation, we would not have to depend on the lousy NorthEast RINOs

For your info, here are some apropos ACU ratings:

Massachusetts      2011    2010 	Years 	Lifetime
	Kerry       5.00     0.00 	27 	 5.07
	BROWN 	   50.00    74.00 	 2 	62.00

Michigan 	   2011    2010 	Years 	Lifetime
	Levin       0.00     0.00 	33 	 6.18
	Stabenow    0.00     0.00 	11 	 7.64
At least the Massachusetts GOP has contributed somewhat to the conservative cause these last two years. Big boys understand such things. Whiners never will.

I repeat my question in a different way: How many Senate votes for strict constructionist judges likely to overturn abortion would likely come out of Michigan and how many from Massachusetts? I wager that MI (and NY) would yield zero, and MA one.

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" Matt 7:3 NIV

34 posted on 10/22/2012 10:58:13 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: AFPhys

((Shrug)) no I didn’t bother to read it but you can waste your time all day for all I care. LOL


35 posted on 10/22/2012 11:02:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

CheckMate


36 posted on 10/22/2012 11:04:12 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: AFPhys

“meh”


37 posted on 10/22/2012 11:07:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: kempster

Wow - I thought you were accurate when you stated that Scarborough was a RINO when in Congress. That is so far off base I am shocked.

In responding to cripplecreek below, I looked up Sen.Brown’s ACU ratings and then when I re-read your comment, said “I wonder what Scarborough’s rating was?”. Turns out that he had an ACU rating of 95.5! That’s not a fluke, either: his ADA rating was 12.5.

I wonder what happened to him?


38 posted on 10/22/2012 11:57:09 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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