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Mitt Romney Won the Second Debate
U.S. News & World Report ^ | October 17, 2012 | Peter Roff

Posted on 10/17/2012 8:14:45 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

Having had a night's sleep to reflect on things, Tuesday night's debate between President Barack Obama and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is starting to feel more like the challenger scored a narrow victory.

The instant analysis, which I helped provide as part of the U.S. News & World Report opinion team's live blogging of the event, lends itself to snap judgments made in the heat of the moment. What matters more is what people remember the next day, even as everything both candidates said and everything both candidates did is analyzed to death.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; debate; election2012; obama; romney
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1 posted on 10/17/2012 8:14:50 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Romney supporters think he won the debate. Obama supporters think that he did. The important fact is that Obama needed a clear and decisive win to offset the shellacking he got two weeks ago. And he didn’t get it.


2 posted on 10/17/2012 8:18:30 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Having had a night's sleep to reflect on things, Tuesday night's debate between President Barack Obama and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is starting to feel more like the challenger scored a narrow victory.

Heh, heh ..... exactly what I've been saying all morning .... as the week goes on, it will become apparent that Romney actually won (even if 'narrow').

3 posted on 10/17/2012 8:22:14 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Delhi Rebels
Hussein lost this debate like the first. Why? Because all the voters remember from the first is his tired, lifeless appearance. The talk was then about the dead obama. Now this one the voters saw the bias moderator who by trying to help the lifeless Hussein around the stage, the voters remember that bias and now want to know the real Libya story. Fortunately for Romney the next debate is on foreign policy and he gets to hit that pinata all night.

Romney up 2 to zero

4 posted on 10/17/2012 8:25:21 AM PDT by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: ConservativeStatement

People are starting to figure out that Obummer’s “To Do” list in 2012 is pretty much the same as it was in 2008. He spent much of his time talking about things that he wants to do in a second term; the trouble is that these are the same things that he wanted to accomplish four years ago. Obummer was begging for a “Do Over”...like a damned five-year-old kid.


5 posted on 10/17/2012 8:25:26 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Delhi Rebels

Obama didn’t need a clear and decisive win. He needed to reset the narrative on him and Romney, preferably back to the Romney as Scrooge perception that existed prior to the first debate. All Romney had to for was prevent himself from being repainted.

Last night was a major failure for Obama, because while he may have win on points he blew his last real shot at redefining Romney in a way that removed Romney as a credible/viable alternative.


6 posted on 10/17/2012 8:27:08 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: MissMagnolia
-- as the week goes on, it will become apparent that Romney actually won (even if 'narrow'). --

It depends on how one defines "won the debate." I think Romney smoked Obama. He came off as more presidential, and that is the point of these debates, at bottom.

Pretty big deal when a water carrier for the DEMs and Obama shows weakness in conviction. The propaganda mojo is not so strong, anymore.

7 posted on 10/17/2012 8:27:36 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ConservativeStatement

I can tell you when Romney won. When he kept trying, but couldn’t get, Obama to tell the truth about oil drilling on federal land, AND when he prodded Obama about Benghazi and the jerk lied through his teeth- AGAIN.
I loved it when Obama tried to look angry about the Benghazi question. He has lied, his administration lied, and then they ALL tried to cover it up.


8 posted on 10/17/2012 8:28:34 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: ConservativeStatement

All Romney had to do was hold his ground and not make a mistake. He didnt, and came across as presidential even though the debate was moderated by a democrat political hack who threw the debate.

In the days ahead, Crowlady will become the focus of that greasy back handed tactic. This debate was a wash, damaged beyond any repair.

So, now we have had the democrats even damage the integrity of debates-forever. They simply do not care, they destroy everything they come in contact with.


9 posted on 10/17/2012 8:29:23 AM PDT by crz
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To: Delhi Rebels

He was more animated than in the previous debate, but his biggest problem is that, after 4 years, he still has little to run on.

Obamacare? 70% hate it.

Killing bin Laden. Okay, give him that. However, that is what has helped inflame the Midde East more than some obscure video.

Golf?

Month long vacations?

Michelle’s garden?

Bo?

There isn’t much else there.

23 million are unemployed.

The number of food stamp recipients has gone up some 30%.

The GNP is struggling at about 1%.

He says he created 5 million jobs in 30-some months. But, that doesn’t even keep up with population growth, and he has been president 45 months — each of those months seeing more than 1 million new joblessness claims.


10 posted on 10/17/2012 8:30:21 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ConservativeStatement
Anyone who thinks the ghastly, deer-eyed, robotic display by bam last night, with a pocket full of platitudes and nicotine patches under his shirt was a “win” is smoking something.
11 posted on 10/17/2012 8:30:58 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: ConservativeStatement

Romney set Obama up on the Libya charade, whether purposeful or not. On Monday, Romney can use the fraud Obama and Crowley perpetrated in the debate to shame the President for his dishonesty, and not being straight with the Amreican people, about Libya and foreign affairs generally. Link up the bamboozling with what he is doing with Russia, “I’ll have more flexibility after the election.” We need a President who is realistic, not one who lives in a fantasy world and tries to fool the American people into believing things that just aren’t so—like killing Bin Laden means that Islamic terrorism is a thing of the past.


12 posted on 10/17/2012 8:32:28 AM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: SpaceBar
In another thread, I equated the two debates to football scores. We can play with the numbers but I put it at Romney won the first debate 44-0 and last night was 32-17.
13 posted on 10/17/2012 8:34:50 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Romney’s message was strong and in the vein of “We can’t take another four years of Obama’s economy and Obama’s policies”

It is the type of message that will be remembered. He repeated it in several variations over and over in the answers to many of the questions.

So yes, the debate was a win for Romney, message successfully sent and received by the independent voters out there.


14 posted on 10/17/2012 8:36:44 AM PDT by ChronicMA
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To: crz

Somebody should do a political cartoon of Candy throwing herself sideways in front of Obama to take a bullet for him. That says it all.


15 posted on 10/17/2012 8:38:42 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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To: Cboldt

“Presidential” works as a ‘win’ for me ..... and evidently it worked for the Luntz focus group (real people, not media hacks) since that was probably the most frequently used adjective to describe Romney.


16 posted on 10/17/2012 8:41:33 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: ChronicMA

Romney may have lost the “debate” to Barry and Candy on points and missed opportunities, but he surely won the electorate.


17 posted on 10/17/2012 8:42:45 AM PDT by Poincare (Reality is not a fool.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Lies are interesting things. There are lies about provable things that can be verified by an impartial third observer, then there are the lies that can’t be “proven” in the traditional sense, like a person’s thoughts and inner motivation. Take for example when the bamster says he cares about the middle class. We know he’s lying like a rug, but the left knows it can’t be “proven” in the normal sense, so it just goes under the radar of discussion.


18 posted on 10/17/2012 8:49:54 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Delhi Rebels
Obama's Benghazi Lies
19 posted on 10/17/2012 8:52:05 AM PDT by zencycler
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To: Poincare
Romney may have lost the “debate” to Barry and Candy on points and missed opportunities, but he surely won the electorate.

You are right to place debate within quote marks. It was NOT a debate. It was a carefully managed forum where one of the candidates could answer questions with little fear of his response provoking DEBATE.

In the first debate Obama's untruths could be called into question by Romney. During the last debate we had the moderatrix running interference for Obama and even assisting him by "correcting" Romney.

What a sham. I am not surprised it turned out this way. It was inescapable. Crowley is already making excuses for her interference.

20 posted on 10/17/2012 9:00:01 AM PDT by nonsporting
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