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Damage but no injuries as U.S. Navy cruiser, submarine collide
Chicago Tribune ^ | October 13, 2012 | Reuters

Posted on 10/13/2012 8:22:10 PM PDT by JerseyanExile

A U.S. Navy Aegis cruiser collided with a nuclear-powered submarine during exercises off the East Cost on Saturday, collapsing the sonar dome on the cruiser and possibly causing other damage, but no injuries, U.S. Navy officials said.

The collision between the USS San Jacinto and the nuclear-powered submarine USS Montpelier occurred about 3:30 p.m., the Navy said in a statement. The Navy declined to say where off the East Coast the accident occurred.

A Navy official said the watch team aboard the San Jacinto saw a periscope rise from the water about 100 to 200 yards (meters) ahead of the vessel during the exercise. The cruiser ordered "all back," but the San Jacinto still collided with the submarine.

The collision caused the collapse of the cruiser's sonar dome, a bulbous-shaped device on the bow of the ship beneath the water line, the Navy official said on condition of anonymity.

The rubber dome houses some of the vessel's electronic navigation, detection and ranging equipment.

The Navy said no personnel were injured during the incident and there was no damage to the submarine's nuclear-powered propulsion plant. Both vessels were operating under their own power.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nationaldefense; usnavy; ussmontpelier; usssanjacinto
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1 posted on 10/13/2012 8:22:15 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

oops- someone is going to be relieved of command


2 posted on 10/13/2012 8:24:49 PM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: JerseyanExile

Two military careers shot to hell.


3 posted on 10/13/2012 8:26:19 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows

Woman driver on the sub?


4 posted on 10/13/2012 8:28:24 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: JerseyanExile

musta been a stealth sub


5 posted on 10/13/2012 8:28:31 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (yup-Who knew??)
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To: JerseyanExile

musta been a stealth sub


6 posted on 10/13/2012 8:28:43 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (yup-Who knew??)
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To: JerseyanExile

On the Navy’s birthday!


7 posted on 10/13/2012 8:29:06 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: JerseyanExile

The White House issued a statement blaming the Republican Congress for cut backs in training budgets for the military. They also blamed the State Department and the Intelligence community.


8 posted on 10/13/2012 8:30:50 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ( Message to President Obama: Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin)
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To: JerseyanExile

The EAST COST?


9 posted on 10/13/2012 8:30:58 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: a fool in paradise

You are a bad, bad person! LOL! ;-)


10 posted on 10/13/2012 8:31:11 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Mr. K

Yup! Career ending event. Maybe a CM for the sub Cmdr.


11 posted on 10/13/2012 8:33:13 PM PDT by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2012! Allez Pack!)
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To: a fool in paradise; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows
My first thought, too.

Beat me to it.

(Insert obligatory off-color joke about women on submarines here...)

Cheers!

12 posted on 10/13/2012 8:34:49 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Take a bow for that one. Thumbs up.


13 posted on 10/13/2012 8:34:51 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: doc1019
Was it a compact sub?


14 posted on 10/13/2012 8:35:24 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: JerseyanExile

Must play nice with Uncle Sam’s toys!!


15 posted on 10/13/2012 8:35:24 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: a fool in paradise

I am a woman and LOL.


16 posted on 10/13/2012 8:36:30 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

And they blamed the altitude.


17 posted on 10/13/2012 8:37:21 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: a fool in paradise
She was in a hurry!


18 posted on 10/13/2012 8:38:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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hummn can we believe their statement...NO DAMAGE DONE???

THEY LIED ABOUT LIBYA WHY NOT LIE ABOUT ALL INCIDENTS FROM NOW ON?????? MAYBE THESE SHIPS WERE ATTACKED...

19 posted on 10/13/2012 8:39:02 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: ilovesarah2012

Obviously due to the film they watched the night before simply altering their judgment.


20 posted on 10/13/2012 8:40:13 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; Lucky9teen
The White House issued a statement blaming the Republican Congress for cut backs in training budgets for the military. They also blamed the State Department and the Intelligence community.

Biden: "I didn' know nuthin' about this!"

21 posted on 10/13/2012 8:40:22 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: JerseyanExile

Dang. Well it does seem to be the in thing now as a Naval Officer to get relieved.


22 posted on 10/13/2012 8:41:12 PM PDT by chargers fan
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To: JerseyanExile

Ubama’s affirmative-action homo commanders go bump.
It will be interesting to see what happens next.


23 posted on 10/13/2012 8:43:19 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: doc1019

0bama will probably promote all involved.


24 posted on 10/13/2012 8:44:43 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: a fool in paradise

I wonder what went through the sub Captian’s mind as he looked through the periscope.

(Where are those guys???,..WHOA!!!)


25 posted on 10/13/2012 8:45:48 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: JerseyanExile

I remember seeing a picture of a German U-boat that got chewed

up from a propeller from the Schornhorst when the sub got too close

and got pulled into that monsters blades

The sub survived but looked like would need a year to repair

Things military can be dangerous and often are


26 posted on 10/13/2012 8:47:18 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: haircutter
THEY LIED ABOUT LIBYA WHY NOT LIE ABOUT ALL INCIDENTS FROM NOW ON?????? MAYBE THESE SHIPS WERE ATTACKED...

Put down your meds and step slowly away from the keyboard...

27 posted on 10/13/2012 8:48:56 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Harold Shea

I remember a fishing boat going straight down. Its netting had to get caught into a submarine. Question: Was it U.S. or Russian? The leftists blamed guess whom?


28 posted on 10/13/2012 8:51:10 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: JerseyanExile

The San JacK is a great ship with a great crew and I never worried about my carrier( The George Washington) having any trouble, when the San Jack was around.


29 posted on 10/13/2012 8:51:32 PM PDT by Trueblackman (I would rather lose on Conservative principles than vote for a RINO candidate.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Ubama’s affirmative-action homo commanders go bump.

You seriously think US navy vessels never collided with each other before this administration?

30 posted on 10/13/2012 8:52:16 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: DIRTYSECRET

That was back in the early 80’s wasn’t it

America’s fault of course/Sarc


31 posted on 10/13/2012 8:59:13 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Revolting cat!

This is what gun pockets and marble sized steel bearings are for.


32 posted on 10/13/2012 9:13:32 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Who ate my strawberries?


33 posted on 10/13/2012 9:13:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: Mr. K

“..oops- someone is going to be relieved of command..”

Both, probably.


34 posted on 10/13/2012 9:22:02 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: JerseyanExile; Doohickey; judicial meanz; submarinerswife; PogySailor; chasio649; gobucks; ...

Navigation by Braille is rarely considered career-enhancing.


35 posted on 10/13/2012 9:23:07 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: JerseyanExile

submarine ping.....ping....ping


36 posted on 10/13/2012 9:25:27 PM PDT by Lockbar (I promise to move fire-wood twice a day.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Photobucket [The submarine crew is believed to have been driven nearly insane with rage by this image, which appears to show "The Submariner" as somewhat limp-wristed. (NOT that there's anything wrong with that in the 21st Century Navy!)

The White House acted as quickly as possible to diffuse the situation by denouncing the Bill of Rights, genuflecting several times in the direction of the one of the oceans, and by issuing this heartfelt apology: "The Future does not belong to those who mock the imaginary friends of Flipper and Aquaman."]

37 posted on 10/13/2012 9:29:15 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Congratulations on the Nobel, Dad! You won peace in Europe and helped keep it for 70 years.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
During the Bush 2 administration, a USA sub off Hawaii did one of those 35 degree max power surfacing maneuvers where half the sub is in mid-air before it planes out again.

Tragically, it came up under a Japanese fishing vessel, sunk it, and killed most of their seamen.

Even worse, the sub had Republican VIP civilians on board, and the captain was putting on a show for his guests.

Around this same time, another sub slammed head on into a sea mount in the central Pacific.

Miraculously, the sub didn't rupture, but a seaman in the torpedo room died from a head injury, and several other seamen were seriously injured.

38 posted on 10/13/2012 9:29:29 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Strategerist
You seriously think US navy vessels never collided with each other before this administration?

Did I say that?
Collisions in previous administrations likely didn't involve homo commanders. Now, it's a distinct possibility.

39 posted on 10/13/2012 9:33:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Mr. K

That is what used to happen, but a female commander had a collision and she didn’t loose her command. Happened about 8 months after Obama got elected.

She was the first female commander of a combat ship. Looks like the PC Crowd interceded.

Lets see what happens now that they have given others a pass.


40 posted on 10/13/2012 9:55:14 PM PDT by dila813
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To: bunkerhill7

Stealth ship would be more accurate - appears the sub had no idea where the CG was when they went to periscope depth.


41 posted on 10/13/2012 9:56:53 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: JerseyanExile

my question, as a retired Sub Sonarman is how the frack did the Montpelier shack let them get so close before going to PD? Something doesn’t sound right here


42 posted on 10/13/2012 10:39:44 PM PDT by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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To: Bottom_Gun

It is sonar’s problem is they didn’t hear it (unlikely).
It is fire controls problem if they didn’t track it (ie Hawaii) and the officer of the deck’s for not keeping the big picture in his head.

In my 8 years as sonar supervisor aboard three SSNs, the closest I got to this was coming to periscope depth along side a large cruise catamaran off Hawaii. Bit of a shock to both the office of the deck, and those on catamaran, when the periscope was broke the surface 100 ft away. Luckily we were on a parallel course. Of course we went deep quickly and retried later.


43 posted on 10/13/2012 11:10:52 PM PDT by mlstier ("The Right to Privacy does not trump the Right to Life" -- Bill O'Reilly)
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To: a fool in paradise; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows

“Like, omigawd, I didn’t mean to hit that ship, Sir, I was too busy applying my rouge!”


44 posted on 10/14/2012 12:10:15 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Old Sarge

This could have been an all male crew. Unfortunately, you’re comment could still be right on the mark. Ick!


45 posted on 10/14/2012 5:37:22 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: mlstier

I had a similar experience when I was on Shark, coming up to PD off Baha Mexico came through the layer and Boom..hi SNR trace, I grabbed the mic and told the OOD “recommend 150 feet” and they responded. had to poke the nose up through the layer as 90 ft to get the trace back and analyze it. Turns out it was a Fishing trawler about 800 yards away. Our OOD loved us that night! lol


46 posted on 10/14/2012 6:26:14 AM PDT by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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To: BykrBayb

With the policy on homosexuals in the military, that statement could apply to any gender.


47 posted on 10/14/2012 8:15:57 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: mlstier; Bottom_Gun

It is sonar’s problem is they didn’t hear it (unlikely).
It is fire controls problem if they didn’t track it (ie Hawaii) and the officer of the deck’s for not keeping the big picture in his head
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Well, they said it was an exercise. Maybe the SSN ‘purposely’ hit the CG in order to knock out the Sonar - thus helping making the SSN ‘invisible’.
Can’t relieve me, that is my story and I am sticking to it.

Of course that is like swatting flies with a howitzer.
And we should be able to afix blame on Bush...<:

Believe it was the Greeneville that ‘got’ the fishing craft off Hawaii....


48 posted on 10/14/2012 9:46:28 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Old Sarge

Yep. Like I said, ick!


49 posted on 10/14/2012 11:42:23 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Strategerist

“You seriously think US navy vessels never collided with each other before this administration?”

Bump. The paranoia around here is becoming obnoxious.


50 posted on 10/14/2012 12:57:35 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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