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Study: cigarette taxes 'disproportionately burden' the poor
WOWK ^ | September 19, 2012

Posted on 09/19/2012 6:55:32 PM PDT by SMGFan

ated: Sep 19, 2012 9:57 AM EDT HEALTHDAY NEWS - New research finds that high cigarette taxes take a heavy toll on low-income smokers, compared to those who are wealthier.

In a study, researchers at RTI International found that poor smokers in New York state -- which has the country's highest state cigarette tax at $4.35 a pack -- spent about 25 percent of their household income on cigarettes. Nationally, the average spending was about 14 percent.

By contrast, the richest smokers nationwide and in New York spent about 2 percent of their household income on cigarettes.

"Excise taxes are effective in changing smokers' behavior," study author Matthew Farrelly, chief scientist and senior director of RTI's public health policy research program, said in an RTI statement. "But not all smokers are able to quit, and low-income smokers are disproportionately burdened by these taxes."

Despite the high taxes in New York state, the study found that the percentage of people with incomes under $25,000 who smoked didn't decline from 2003-2004 to 2009-2010.

"Special efforts are needed to reduce smoking among those with low incomes," Farrelly said. "States, especially New York, generate significant revenue from cigarette taxes, but only a small percentage of that money is used for tobacco control programs. It seems only fair that states with high cigarette taxes should adequately fund cessation interventions for low-income smokers who shoulder a disproportionate share of cigarette taxes."

The researchers relied on surveys of more than 13,000 people.

The study, funded by New York State Health Department, appeared Sept. 12 in the journal PLoS One.


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1 posted on 09/19/2012 6:55:33 PM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

They burden who is ever dumb enough to smoke.


2 posted on 09/19/2012 6:56:28 PM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: SMGFan

Jonathan Allen
Reuters
5:48 p.m. CDT, September 19, 2012

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Poor smokers in New York State spend about a quarter of their entire income on cigarettes, nearly twice as much as the national average for low-income smokers, according to a new study.

The study, conducted by the non-profit research group RTI on behalf of the state’s health department, found there was no statistically significant decline in the prevalence of smoking among poorer New Yorkers between 2003 and 2010, even as the habit declined by about 20 percent among all income groups.

“Although high cigarette taxes are an effective method for reducing cigarette smoking, they can impose a significant financial burden on low-income smokers,” Matthew Farrelly and his co-authors wrote in the conclusion of their paper, which was published this month in Plos One, an online, peer-reviewed journal.

Using data from the state health department’s New York Adult Tobacco Survey, researchers calculated that smokers in New York earning less than $30,000 a year spent an average of 23.6 percent of their earnings on cigarettes, compared with about 14.2 percent nationally.

The state’s wealthier smokers - those earning over $60,000 - spent an average of 2.2 percent of their income on the habit, about the same as the national figure.

New York has the highest state cigarette tax in the nation, at $4.35 a carton, compared with a national average of $1.46. New York City imposes an additional $1.50 tax. The researchers said they did not have enough data to measure whether city residents were shelling out an even larger portion of their earnings on cigarettes.

The low-income now spend twice as much of their earnings on cigarettes as they did in 2003, when the state imposed a tax of $1.50 on each carton.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-newyork-smokingbre88i1i6-20120919,0,4412787.story


3 posted on 09/19/2012 6:57:20 PM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: CodeToad

1% should subsidize cigarettes for poor.
Redistribute wealth and help poor.


4 posted on 09/19/2012 6:58:53 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: SMGFan

While we’re at more income redistribution...

powerball and lottery “taxes” (50% tax, 50% payouts) disproportionately burden the poor as well. EBT cards only go so far every week!


5 posted on 09/19/2012 7:00:59 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: SMGFan

Amazing how we can always find the money for our addictions.


6 posted on 09/19/2012 7:01:09 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: CodeToad
Just wait until they tax YOUR vice.

/johnny

7 posted on 09/19/2012 7:01:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SMGFan
Imagine that! They needed a survey to show that? Here's another newsflash for the vincibly ignorant: the lottery is a tax on the mathematically challenged!



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8 posted on 09/19/2012 7:03:21 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: SMGFan

Well boo flipping hoo. I quit on 2-27-10. The reasons were many and predictable but one of the biggest ones was that I would not be an idiot paying a growing voluntary tax. If others can’t figure that out...what are we to do?


9 posted on 09/19/2012 7:04:01 PM PDT by lovesdogs (Nevermind what I post...I have clothespins handy and will vote for Mitt.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SMGFan.
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10 posted on 09/19/2012 7:05:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: CodeToad
BTW, tobacco grows in almost every state of the union, and really isn't that hard to grow or process. Tax free.

/johnny

11 posted on 09/19/2012 7:12:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Menehune56
Amazing how we can always find the money for our addictions.

One of my neighbor's daughters is a welare momma. It seems that the higher the tobacco tax, the more she and her pals smoke. Kids from different absent fathers, she's on welfare and does nothing but smoke and drink constantly. Our taxes we involuntarily pay, funds their addictions. High tobacco tax costs don't impact poor people who get redistibuted money from the rest of us.

12 posted on 09/19/2012 7:12:24 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: SMGFan

taxpayers pay for food so you can buy your cigarettes? Give you SNAP to feed the kids,then school feeds them. You can buy your cigarettes.


13 posted on 09/19/2012 7:12:55 PM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: SMGFan

Watch. You have to understand how the liberal mind works; someone will suggest that the government subsidize poor people’s cigarettes. And that someone will be taken seriously.


14 posted on 09/19/2012 7:13:52 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: SMGFan

Or you could take the cynical approach:

just give them all the cigarettes they want and we will save money on welfare payments and healthcare in the long run. . . .


15 posted on 09/19/2012 7:14:43 PM PDT by RatRipper (Obama, YOU LIE!!! . . .again and again and again and again, ad infinitum. . . .)
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To: JohnBrowdie
How about we get government the hell out of pretty much everything... taxing tobacco, paying for poor people, etc... and restrict it to what is Constitutional.

/johnny

16 posted on 09/19/2012 7:15:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SMGFan
"The study, funded by New York State Health Department, appeared Sept. 12 in the journal PLoS One."

..."Disproportionate"...

Well,

DUH!!!

Any purchase is a larger fraction of a small income than a large one.

That is "proportionate". . "Disproportionate" is pure liberal hyperemotion-speak!

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My fourth grade grandkid could have given the New York State Health Department that answer -- without doing a da*ned expensive "study"!!


17 posted on 09/19/2012 7:20:04 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: SMGFan

” Farrelly said. “States, especially New York, generate significant revenue from cigarette taxes, but only a small percentage of that money is used for tobacco control programs”


Do they actually think the states WANT people to quit?

Too much tax revenue would be lost.

Hypocrites.

.


18 posted on 09/19/2012 7:23:45 PM PDT by Mears
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To: RatRipper

19 posted on 09/19/2012 7:27:17 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: Menehune56
Amazing how we can always find the money for our addictions.

Imagine if they got addicted to getting good grades in school.

20 posted on 09/19/2012 7:29:04 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Mears

Do they actually think the states WANT people to quit?

Too much tax revenue would be lost.

Hypocrites.
_______________________________________________________

Why do you think there is a focus on ‘fat people and food’ as of late?

Quit smoking......gain weight....profit!


21 posted on 09/19/2012 7:30:15 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: CodeToad

They disproportionately tax whom ever chooses to smoke.
Wait till they decide that driving a car toward another car at 75 MPH with only feet separating you is dangerous.
Wait til they figure out that when you strap little JR into a toddler car seat he is directly above 25 ga of explosive.
Wait till they figure out that sugar makes folks fat and cause diabetes.
Wait till they figure out knives can cut.
Wait till they figure out nitrates used to cure tasty bacon aint that great for ya.

Enjoy your smug, and your new taxes.


22 posted on 09/19/2012 7:31:01 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SMGFan

Well then, if you are poor enough to pick up an Obama-phone with your EBT card, let’s give you a voucher for a few packs of cigs.


23 posted on 09/19/2012 7:32:06 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SMGFan
Study: cigarette taxes 'disproportionately burden' the poor

College educated people did this study. College educated people needed this study. LMAO

24 posted on 09/19/2012 7:32:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Steely Tom
Imagine if they got addicted to getting good grades in school.

Ah, a lot of them do, thanks to the "self-esteem" movement, and by the time the get to university, they think they are entitled to good grades without doing work. Such people usually become ed majors.

25 posted on 09/19/2012 7:33:41 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Under the law you must pay the tax even if you grow your own.
They expect the tax if you make your own fuel as well.


26 posted on 09/19/2012 7:33:57 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Got a citation for that in regards to tobacco?

/johnny

27 posted on 09/19/2012 7:36:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: CodeToad

Exactly, its a tax on stupidity.


28 posted on 09/19/2012 7:38:25 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: All

The tax on tobacco is so disproportionate that it is insane.

Congrats Gov.
Another fine job of divide and conquer, while getting people in a majority to set precedent to tax another group of citizens at an insane rate.

Think about it people.


29 posted on 09/19/2012 7:41:29 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Not off hand, but I assure you it is true.


30 posted on 09/19/2012 7:42:41 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dartuser
Lots of nanny-state folks out tonight, letting us know they support taxes on stuff they personally don't like.

/johnny

31 posted on 09/19/2012 7:43:17 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mylife
No, actually it's not.

Fuel tax... yes.

Home grown tobacco? No.

Homebrewed beer/wine? No.

/johnny

32 posted on 09/19/2012 7:44:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jennychase; CodeToad

You guys are OK with “sin tax”?

What’s your Constitutional/Biblical/ethical basis for that?

Just curious- there are lots of sins we could tax...


33 posted on 09/19/2012 7:46:44 PM PDT by One Name
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To: dartuser

Since when is that a basis for taxation, let alone extreme taxation?

I understand that folks here are hyped up because the article says it spreads the tax to the poor

I understand that people hate smoke.
I hate 120 decibel exhaust pipes and BOOM BOOM sounds systems.

I don’t blow smoke in other peoples face and I would never use a tax to stop people from blowing their eardrums out.


34 posted on 09/19/2012 7:48:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You understand this FRiend.

They are on Michelle O’s team with this!


35 posted on 09/19/2012 7:48:45 PM PDT by One Name
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To: SMGFan
This idiocy reminds me of the incoherent nonsense we used to hear from African American "community leaders" back in the 1980s, who first complained that the government was basically engaging in genocide against black people by flooding ghettos with crack ... then complained severl years later that black people were being imprisoned in disproportionately large numbers because prison sentences for crack dealers were longer than prison sentences for cocaine dealers.

There's nothing more destructive to a society than a large number of professional malcontents who engage in self-destructive behavior, then blame someone else for it.

36 posted on 09/19/2012 7:49:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: One Name

It is not just sin tax.
It’s divide and conquer taxation.


37 posted on 09/19/2012 7:50:17 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife; JRandomFreeper
Under the law you must pay the tax even if you grow your own.

No, they don't. You are permitted to grow 1/10th of an acre for personal consumption, no tax involved.

They expect the tax if you make your own fuel as well.

I know nothing about that.

38 posted on 09/19/2012 7:51:41 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

No. The IRS wants that Tobacco money.

The point is that Taxes are insane on ALL of us.


39 posted on 09/19/2012 7:52:55 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper; CodeToad
J, I don't think CodeToad is going to respond.

Probably went out for a long, healthy jog on a public sidewalk right next to a busy major paved road, breathing in deeply the deadly vehicle exhaust fumes...the same fumes that cause global warming/ climate change!
Now if next “they” as in our unelected silent government overlords, would completely ban cars and trucks from roads...CodeToad could blissfully exercise in peace all he wants...untill it's time for his elective hip-replacement surgery... LOL!

40 posted on 09/19/2012 7:54:00 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: Gabz

That is not the way I understand it Gabz but the wider point is that divide and conquer taxation is a slippery slope.

I would NEVER yoke my fellow man with disproportionate taxation.


41 posted on 09/19/2012 7:55:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Gabz
Fuel thing is true. Especially at the state level. You will pay the road tax.

4000 sq ft of tobacco is plenty for this household.

/johnny

42 posted on 09/19/2012 7:56:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mylife

Yeah its like the old pinball machines. Everyone of us does something objectionable that the nanny-state will seek to correct, whether it be barbecueing, hunting, enjoying a cigar, eating fish, 4-wheeling, eating bacon, drinking soda, eating french fries, driving old cars, having too many children, and on and on.

We’ll all go down the slot eventually.

Time to stop this crap NOW!


43 posted on 09/19/2012 7:58:27 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name

Michelly O can kiss my royal Irish Arse!!


44 posted on 09/19/2012 7:59:58 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: One Name

I agree.


45 posted on 09/19/2012 8:01:48 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: One Name

Let me put back my liberal hat.
From 53% tax, Poor gets foodstamp, they buy cigarettes and they pay tax on cigarette. That tax money will be used on little poor kids. More teachers get hired, they demand more from 53% for pension and parties.
And eventually, they VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS.

And 53% work more and smarter to earn more money to support future DEMOCRAT VOTERS.


46 posted on 09/19/2012 8:02:12 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: mylife

What happened to FREEDOM?

Are FREEPERS blinded?

If it’s not a codified crime- then you as a FREE CITIZEN should be able to pursue the activity without penalty- subject only to the FREE MARKETPLACE.

Did I miss something??


47 posted on 09/19/2012 8:05:56 PM PDT by One Name
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To: mylife
I totally agree with you on the divide and conquer taxation issue, no question there. But I also know I do not have to pay any tax on tobacco I grow for personal consumption. "Personal consumption" is the key phrase - and that is why it is limited to 1/10th an acre per property owner.

I would NEVER yoke my fellow man with disproportionate taxation.

That has always been my position, however far too many FReepers have cheered on for higher tobacco and alcohol taxes because they don't like smokers and drinkers that I no longer give a rat's rear end if they get taxed on something they enjoy. I will fight against those taxes - but enjoy laughing at the nanny state lovers who claim to be conservatives here on FR who are now reaping what they sowed by calling for higher taxes on those of us who enjoy things they don't.

48 posted on 09/19/2012 8:08:54 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: All

I really like ciggies, cigars, beer, fast cars, motorcycles, rib eye steaks, chili dawgs, peach ice cream, firearms, wild women.
Quite mornings on the porch sipping coffee.

Who’s bushiness is it?


49 posted on 09/19/2012 8:09:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: One Name
Are FREEPERS blinded?

Many are. Especially when it comes to their pet peeve.

They are nanny-state folks that seek solutions from the great teat of mama government. Unless their ox gets gored.

Freedom doesn't enter into it, for many. They will tell you that freedom is over-rated, and if people were free, they would do self-destructive things.

/johnny

50 posted on 09/19/2012 8:09:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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