Skip to comments.USADA to strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour titles
Posted on 08/23/2012 8:23:23 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency said Thursday night it will strip Lance Armstrong of his unprecedented seven Tour de France titles after he declared he was finished fighting the drug charges that threaten his legacy as one of the greatest cyclists of all time.
Travis Tygart, USADA's chief executive, said Armstrong would also be hit with a lifetime ban on Friday.
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If they have sufficient proof of his guilt, that should include coaching as well. Otherwise it’s that that big of a punishment, because he’s accrued all the meaningful benefits.
If he never tested positive, how do they have proof?
So now in America a person is guilty unless he can prove his innocence? What objective body of evidence do they have? How about his several hundred blood samples, each of which has never shown as positive.
Unless the USADA operates the Tour de France, that sounds like a meaningless gesture.
This is BS!
Travis Tygart must have some really sprained wrists after announcing this.
I don’t know. Maybe they kept samples that could be later tested with more sophisticated tests.
He should tell them he’ll give them his left nut before he gives up his trophies.
Total waste of tax payer's money.
This stuff just is meaningless. Nobody will think his wins aren’t valid just because this agency “erases” them. It’s completely meaningless.
Good!! It is my opinion he is a liar and a big steroid freak, I hear he is an egocentric jurk. Adios . You are a disgrace to real sport sir!!
This is one of the most outrageous abuses of power that I have ever heard. I would hate to hear that even though I proved my inocence over 500 times, these quasi policing bodies, corrupt as hell by the way, could pull out a piece of “evidence” and demand I defend myself for number 501 + x.
Lance “ John Demjanjuk” Armstrong.
Just another way to destroy American exceptionalism.
This is a surprise to no one. Especially the guys that finished behind him thinking, “No way”.
Wait... Did Armstrong vote Republican or something?
The panel of arbitrators would have heard the evidence and then given its verdict. If Armstrong had lost at that stage, he would have had an opportunity to appeal the adverse decision to the international Court of Arbitration for Sport.
Armstrong chose not to pursue arbitration at all. What USADA is now prepared to do is akin to what happens when one gets sued in a civil action, and one chooses not to answer the complaint. One can have a "default judgment" rendered against him.
By the way, by virtue of holding a professional license from USA Cycling, which recognizes USADA's authority to enforce anti-doping rules to which cyclists are subject in the U.S., Armstrong acquiesced in the legitimacy of the aforementioned process. That is one reason a federal district court threw out Armstrong's own lawsuit the other day, in which Armstrong had challenged USADA's jurisdiction and authority over him.
Guilty because he stopped fighting the charges.
I guess that makes sense to some here.
I hope Zimmerman doesn’t stop fighting his charges.
What was your previous userid?
So you endorse a witch hunt based upon jealousy and nothing more? Sorry, but the USADA should put up or shut up. He never failed a drug test and they’ve produced nothing to prove otherwise.
What a disappointment. If you’re innocent, you fight. Who’s going to care about his foundation now that he’s cast himself as a quitter...?
As Robert Shaw said to Paul Newman in The Sting: "You're not only a cheat. You're a gutless cheat as well."
He’s right up there with Barry Bonds.
It's hard to prepare cross-examination and rebuttal experts when the prosecution won't disclose their evidence and witnesses. He's been fighting these allegations since 1999 and has endured a 2-year federal investigation.
The situation makes me think of endlessly battling the IRS or some other behemoth federal agency -- they'll keep hounding you with unlimited resources until you crack. If he had persisted and the USADA didn't succeed in their quest this time, I don't believe for a second they wouldn't turn around and try again. And again. And again.
This is more akin to not answering the tenth complaint arising from the same set of facts. I can't even figure out what axe the USADA has to grind by pursuing this issue into perpetuity.
The man has been tested far more than any other athlete in history and has never been found to have used a banned substance. His testing was consistant with all the other testing done during his reign. He never failed a test. Why would they now continue with this stupid attack on him? He is out of racing, he has never been proven to have used illegal substances, and yet the whimpering cries of jealousy from his former teammates and foes now hold more weight than true objective tests held during his 7 years of conquest.
I would like to see his margin of victory in each race. Did he win by miles or a few hundred feet...how much better was Lance VS the competition???
“The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency”
What do these people do? We STILL ended up with Obama and Biden!
Hey, how else are these people going to keep the gravy rolling in if they don’t go after people like Armstrong forever? Have to justify their existence somehow.
What have you done lately? What does that make you?
You are welcomed to your opinion(s) regardless how moronic they may be, but at least have a brain to spell correctly that which you accuse someone of being.
A major key? Like the NY Yankees, he had the best team money could buy. So when you are riding a 2400 mile race and you have the right team mate for the right circumstance to give you an advantage to place in the top 10 every day (and some times even win a day), your probability of winning the whole 2400 mile race goes up.
Armstrong passed the tests. All else is hot air.
Face it, he’s dirty
If he never tested positive, how do they have proof?
Have followed and partissipated in endurance sport for more than sixty years, and I have been pretty sure that Armstrong used some type of tetesteron doping in the late 1990s and he tested positive in two tests in 2009 and 2010, but he managed to bribe some officials, donating over 100 000 $ and they hid the tests and didn’t release the resaults, but as always, somebody found out, in this case, a french news paper, anyway, lots of info on this out there
I really had no opinion of him until I saw this. Now I do have an opinion of him.
As evidenced by reading any Internet thread or listening to any conversation about Lance Armstrong over the past five or ten years.
“Good!! It is my opinion he is a liar and a big steroid freak, I hear he is an egocentric jurk. Adios . You are a disgrace to real sport sir!!”
I tend to agree, just too many people coming out and saying he did it.
“It’s hard to prepare cross-examination and rebuttal experts when the prosecution won’t disclose their evidence and witnesses”
They didn’t say Armstrong didn’t have that list, just that the public didn’t.
I reread it, and I’ll agree it’s not specific. In this context, however, I still have the impression they haven’t revealed the information to anyone at all, but you may be right.
The great irony of this is that the stripped titles will almost certainly be awarded to other dopers. During that time it was standard procedure.
I fail to see what has been accomplished here.
According to Fox Sports, USADA is claiming that samples Armstrong gave in 2009 and 2010 are positive for masking agents.
Of course, that’s years after his last Tour win.
I’ve always accepted Armstrong at his word.
But the growing list of team mates who have testified against him has cracked my confidence in the guy.
Exactly. If what they say is true, this agency will be stripping titles from one doper and giving them to another.
The losers claiming the winner just had to be cheating...just had to be...else how could he have possibly won.
Old story...tired old story but the losers are still losers.
And, 200 or 300 yeats from now, archeologists who will already be laughing at the fools we will appear to be with Global Warming and Obama, will re-examine the whole Lance Armstrong issue and discover that it truly WAS a witch hunt!!
But, how will Lance and his family regain their honor, his medals and his accomplishments???
It’s heartbreaking that America alwaus has to be the ones that go after the folks on top. Doubtless, there are dirty politics at work, here.