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Now is the time for courage (Akin, abortion)
WND ^ | August 22, 2012 | Janet Porter

Posted on 08/23/2012 9:36:15 AM PDT by Perseverando

Exclusive: Janet Porter joins pro-life leaders as they stand with Rep. Todd Akin

Want to know why the Republican Party is in such trouble? I believe it comes down to one word: courage.

When Democrats misspeak, we make them vice president. When Republicans misspeak, Republicans are the first in line to throw them under the bus.

When Rep. Todd Akin stood for protecting all innocent human life in a recent interview, he used a word with more than one meaning. He used the word “legitimate” before the word “rape” to mean “real,” “forcible,” a tragic event that “really took place.” Anyone who doesn’t think false claims of rape can be made should check with Norma McCorvey, the “Roe” of Roe v. Wade. The infamous abortion case, based on her false rape claim, has resulted in the deaths of 55 million innocent human lives.

But because “legitimate” could also modify the word rape, some in the Republican Party are practically writing Willie Horton ads about it, pretending that the congressman is “pro-rape” and wants to let rapists out on furlough. This “interpretation” of the congressman’s words doesn’t resemble reality, and everyone knows it.

If Republicans love their country, they will quit using fiction to shoot their own and focus on the real enemies of life: Democrats Claire McCaskill and Barack Obama, who stand for legally sucking the brains out of half-born babies in a procedure called partial-birth abortion.

In America, we shouldn’t kill people for the crimes of their father. And in politics, we shouldn’t kill statesmen for a badly worded sound bite.

Thankfully, there are men and women of courage who stand with Rep. Akin, beginning with the founder of National and International Right to Life, Dr. Jack Willke, who said:

“Congressman Todd Akin remains a strong and courageous

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: abortion; akin; mccaskill; normamccorvey; prolife; roevwade; toddakin
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1 posted on 08/23/2012 9:36:19 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

A time for choosing.

Stand with a man who said something stupid but means very well or stand with someone who supports abortion.


2 posted on 08/23/2012 9:38:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Perseverando

IBT ‘run in circles scream & shout’ crowd.


3 posted on 08/23/2012 9:41:27 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: cripplecreek

He lost the election with his stupid comment. If he really cared about anything but himself he would have withdrawn and made way for available candidate.


4 posted on 08/23/2012 9:41:37 AM PDT by Kozak (The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: Perseverando
No matter how innocent Akin’s intent, the effect of his words are a danger to the entire ticket especially when those words are spun and amplified by corrupt opponents and news media feigning righteous indignation.
5 posted on 08/23/2012 9:41:56 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Kozak

Make that a VIABLE candidate.


6 posted on 08/23/2012 9:42:50 AM PDT by Kozak (The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: Perseverando

No - a REAL test of courage would be whether the Party is willing to dump Romney and replace him with a real conservative.


7 posted on 08/23/2012 9:43:24 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Perseverando

No - a REAL test of courage would be whether the Party is willing to dump Romney and replace him with a real conservative.


8 posted on 08/23/2012 9:43:45 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Perseverando

Akin poisoned his chances... he’s not going to win. If he has a modicum of love for America, he’ll override his own ego and step aside.

But he won’t. He’s enjoying the attention too much.


9 posted on 08/23/2012 9:44:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Stop the bleeding, Todd Akin. Do the right thing and step aside!!)
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To: cripplecreek
Stand with a man who said something stupid but means very well or stand with someone who supports abortion.

Staw man argument. The guy is a fool who has the potential to take down the entire party.

They are running Akin ads against local Repubs already here in NH.
10 posted on 08/23/2012 9:44:51 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: cripplecreek

“Stand with a man who said something stupid but means very well or stand with someone who supports abortion.”

How about his replacement that isnt a moron?


11 posted on 08/23/2012 9:44:52 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: cripplecreek
Stand with a man who said something stupid but means very well or stand with someone who supports abortion.

I don't see why it has to be either or. There are plenty of other Missouri Republicans who are pro-life, replace Akin with one of them. That way we get someone who is both pro-life AND not stupid.

12 posted on 08/23/2012 9:45:57 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Perseverando
When Democrats misspeak, we make them vice president. When Republicans misspeak, Republicans are the first in line to throw them under the bus.

IT HAS TO STOP.

The RAT party's keynote speaker is an accused RAPIST. The RAT party's VP is a JOKE.
13 posted on 08/23/2012 9:46:00 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

The endless measure of conservative stupidity just astounds me.

The only way Obama is going to be defeated in November is if Jesus comes down here and defeats him Himself, because the only pepople republicans can defeat is themselves.

If you want to replace Romney with a real conservative, champ, then replace him with Akin.

Oh wait...


14 posted on 08/23/2012 9:46:51 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Perseverando
Replace him with an electable pro-life candidate...good grief...he's not the only one.
15 posted on 08/23/2012 9:47:24 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: cripplecreek
Stand with a man who said something stupid but means very well or stand with someone who supports abortion.

Alas, I read his statement over and over and without the screaming from the press and (moderate) republicans I just can't see why there is such ado because of it.

The guy has a VERY impressive voting record as a conservative.

16 posted on 08/23/2012 9:48:10 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Kozak
He lost the election with his stupid comment. If he really cared about anything but himself he would have withdrawn and made way for available candidate.

If he lost the election, it was because the media made political hay out of his comment and the GOP stood him up and shot him for the benefit of that same media. However, the media will ignore the GOP's blood sacrifice and continue to wring out every ounce of liberal advantage that they can from his statement.
17 posted on 08/23/2012 9:48:39 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Perseverando
He used the word “legitimate” before the word “rape” to mean “real,” “forcible,” a tragic event that “really took place.”

Legitimate rape means something different to the Demobrat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party) -- and the convention will feature women Bill Clinton raped..

examples of legitimate rape..

apparently legitimate in the sense of "being in accordance with established or accepted patterns and standards" of the Demobrat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party), the MSM, universities, Hollywood, NGOs, U.N., civil rights industry, much of the ruling class, the "nonpartisan" radio and TV, transnationals, and all the Right People.

Also to show religion compassion and understanding the convention will feature Islamist "temporary marriages" that are also in accordance with established or accepted patterns and standards of the aforementioned pukes.

18 posted on 08/23/2012 9:48:57 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Perseverando

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/80043.html#ixzz24Nyr4HPw

Todd Akin has fallen behind Sen. Claire McCaskill by double digits in the Missouri Senate race, according to a Rasmussen automated phone poll released Thursday.

The survey taken Wednesday shows McCaskill leading Akin, 48 percent to 38 percent, among 500 likely Missouri voters. Nine percent preferred another candidate, and 5 percent were undecided.


19 posted on 08/23/2012 9:49:24 AM PDT by pwatson
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To: Cheerio
The RAT party's keynote speaker is an accused RAPIST. The RAT party's VP is a JOKE.

And THAT, my FRiend, is the *real* test of courage. Will conservatives and Republicans ever get serious about running the MSM blockade and start bringing this message to the people - airing the Democrats' dirty laundry - even if it means the MSM attacks them as "mean-spirited" etc.?

20 posted on 08/23/2012 9:49:41 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Perseverando
Watch out, the GOP will send their crack commando unit out after you...


21 posted on 08/23/2012 9:50:18 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Well, put!


22 posted on 08/23/2012 9:50:48 AM PDT by Perseverando (Gun control? It's the OBOTS who are filling up prisons for violent crimes, not the Tea Party.)
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To: Perseverando

The words “legitimate rape” are not the problem( as has been pointed out, that can easily be clarified as “forcible”), it’s the rest of the quote that is the problem:

“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

That is a direct quote. It’s a dumb statement; in the same league as “the world is flat”; “the Sun revolves around the Earth”; “I believe in the Easter Bunny” dumb.


23 posted on 08/23/2012 9:50:50 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Freedom--tastes like chicken)
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To: chris37
You know, I was one of the first on these forums to excoriate Akin.

If the Republican party did that though, they could get my vote in November, instead of Virgil Goode.

Romney is costing the Republicans more than Akin is.

24 posted on 08/23/2012 9:51:16 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: chris37

So, ah, you think Romney is the opnly guy who could defeat Obama?

Doesn’t seem to be doing such a hot job of it so far.


25 posted on 08/23/2012 9:51:49 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Perseverando

Now lets take a trip to Realville. Akin will lose. Rasmussen (the most accurate poll) has him down 10 pts. Screw courage, I want the GOP to take the Senate.


26 posted on 08/23/2012 9:52:30 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: EGPWS
I read his statement over and over and without the screaming from the press and (moderate) republicans I just can't see why there is such ado because of it.

Ditto...
27 posted on 08/23/2012 9:52:43 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Will conservatives and Republicans ever get serious about running the MSM blockade and start bringing this message to the people - airing the Democrats' dirty laundry - even if it means the MSM attacks them as "mean-spirited" etc.?

Nope.

They don't have the guts.

I mean, is there any identifiable group we should care less about, than women who support abortion?

They're more disordered than the homos.

28 posted on 08/23/2012 9:54:22 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: pwatson

29 posted on 08/23/2012 9:54:44 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: Sopater

No HE lost the election by making a stupid, ignorant comment. Of course the press and the Rats were going to take full advantage of it. He should have pulled the plug before the deadline the selfish turd. A coupe more winners like this and the election will be handed to the left.


30 posted on 08/23/2012 9:55:15 AM PDT by Kozak (The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: Perseverando
Want to know why the Republican Party is in such trouble? I believe it comes down to one word: courage.

So you are not courageous if you don't stand up for some wacko who happens to be pro life. Give me a break! Pro life beliefs and intelligence are not mutually exclusive.

The country and my children's future are far more important than defending this goof ball. There are plenty of pro lifers who could step in and defeat McCaskill and put this issue to bed.
31 posted on 08/23/2012 9:56:18 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
So, ah, you think Romney is the opnly guy who could defeat Obama?

Doesn’t seem to be doing such a hot job of it so far.


And now he'll have a convenient scapegoat in Akin if he loses in Nov.
32 posted on 08/23/2012 9:56:47 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Perseverando
He used the word “legitimate” before the word “rape” to mean “real,” “forcible,” a tragic event that “really took place.” Anyone who doesn’t think false claims of rape can be made should check with Norma McCorvey, the “Roe” of Roe v. Wade.

No Akin was trying to minimize the implication of his pure Pro-Life position that women should be forced to carry children conceived from rape. He was saying women who are raped do not conceive because their body has a magical property to prevent conception. Therefore, women who claimed they were raped and want to abort a child are lying.

33 posted on 08/23/2012 9:57:10 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Brookhaven

You mean the Easter Bunny is NOT real?? wow... day, ruined...


34 posted on 08/23/2012 9:58:16 AM PDT by wyowolf
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To: EGPWS

He had no business mentioning the “theory” that the bodies of women being forcibly raped put up natural barriers against getting pregnant. That was an eternally stupid thing to bring up. Later, he said he checked with professional sources and now admits that what he said is medically, scientifically untrue.

He then apologized for saying it.

When he was asked about abortion in cases of rape, all he needed to say was, I believe a baby is a living human being and it doesn’t make sense in my beliefs to abort the baby who is alive and who is innocent.

To absurdly start an argument over the “theory” that a woman who is forcibly raped is unlikely to get pregnant, and in the process of bringing that up, actually use the words “legitimate rape”, is so beyond the pale it’s beyond the belief he “went there”.

Even HE admits that now.

He just doesn’t want to suffer the consequences of leaving the race.


35 posted on 08/23/2012 9:58:18 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Kozak
A coupe more winners like this and the election will be handed to the left.

From where I'm standing, that's inevitable when nearly everyone running is on the left.
36 posted on 08/23/2012 9:59:24 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: EGPWS

Most women can see something wrong with his remarks.

Or as Paul Ryan says, “rape is rape”.

Akin is too ignorant to be a senator.


37 posted on 08/23/2012 9:59:46 AM PDT by Latecomer
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To: Sopater

Post #35


38 posted on 08/23/2012 10:00:08 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Perseverando

He toast. His seat is gone. Still looking to see if we may have lost the White House in Missouri as well.


39 posted on 08/23/2012 10:00:24 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: C19fan
Rather than explain what Akin said why not start posting the actual comment.

“It seems to me, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare,” Mr. Akin said of pregnancies from rape. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something: I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be of the rapist, and not attacking the child.”

Politically imprudent, absolutely. But lets not overstate it.

40 posted on 08/23/2012 10:01:16 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: MrEdd; chris37
Romney is costing the Republicans more than Akin is.

Exactly. Akin can cost us a Senate race (not even a seat, just a pickup), Romney is going to cost us the Presidency, and any coattail effects to boot.

Let's face it - if the GOP was fielding a decent conservative candidate, we'd be crushing Obama right now. I'm not even asking for some kind of hard-right Constitution Party-style candidate, just a reasonable mainstream movement conservative who understands the need to balance and stand on all three legs of fusion conservatism. Such a candidate wouldn't have the base troubles Romney has, and wouldn't have to try to run on the now-fervent-but-inevitably-will-play-itself-out "Anybody but Obama" energy. People naturally are much more interested in being in it for the long haul when they have someone that they can genuinely vote FOR, rather than just supporting to vote AGAINST the other guy. That's all Romney has. He is fracturing the GOP and the conservative movement in general, because people know he's a phony. A lot of people support him only tepidly because he's not Obama, but this doesn't translate into massive grassroots action of the sort traditionally needed to really make the ground game effective. Sure, Romney is a great organiser, but he's going to need more than just a cadre of loyal supporters to win the ground game nationwide. He needs the base. And a lot of them, while perhaps voting for him, aren't really inclined to put a lot of effort into his campaign.

End result - Obama is probably going to get re-elected, and the fault lies with Romney and his supporters.

41 posted on 08/23/2012 10:01:31 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Cheerio
When Democrats misspeak, we make them vice president. When Republicans misspeak, Republicans are the first in line to throw them under the bus.

IT HAS TO STOP.
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Just because the 'Rats have no standards doesn't mean we have to accept stupidity.

42 posted on 08/23/2012 10:02:54 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: cripplecreek

bump

So he said something stupid and immediately backtracked

which politician hasn’t?

Are we really going to allow the MSM and leftists in both parties choose our candidates this way?


43 posted on 08/23/2012 10:03:15 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: txrangerette

“Inaccurate” or “wrong”? Sure.

“highly offensive”? Not so sure I see it.


44 posted on 08/23/2012 10:04:22 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: wyowolf
Sorry, no Easter Bunny.

But there is a real Robin Hood, who want to take from the rich and give to the poor government.


45 posted on 08/23/2012 10:04:57 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Freedom--tastes like chicken)
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To: Signalman
Good idea. Lets go to Realville.

We wonder why Boehner never stands to fight the great battles that must be won to save our republic.

Answer: Because too many pitiful surrender monkeys typified by comments at this forum run for cover from the little battles, like defending and supporting the conservative Akin.

46 posted on 08/23/2012 10:05:31 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: Perseverando

NOT THIS TIME! Akin will be hammered in November. Lack of courage did not cause Akin’s poll numbers to plummet. It was his own words, which can’t be fixed or explained. Porter is wrong. Bob


47 posted on 08/23/2012 10:07:15 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("You're a worn-out face in all the hang-out places where the lost souls congregate." Al Stewart)
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To: okie01
Just because the 'Rats have no standards doesn't mean we have to accept stupidity.

Go ahead, continue to think you can get your message out when the MAIN stream media (I abhor that term) is PROPAGANDIZING for the RAT party. You will never even overtake that.
48 posted on 08/23/2012 10:08:32 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Actually, the only thing we had going for us as conservatives was that if Romnay lost to Obama in November we would have been able to blame the GOPe, the RINOs and Romney.

If Akin loses the Senate seat and or if Romney loses Missouri and the general election, it will be the fault of Akin. We will no longer be able to blame the RINOs by saying "see we told you so". Thanks to Akin, blaming the GOP Establishment went out the window.

But now the table has turned. Akin is hurting the conservative movement.

49 posted on 08/23/2012 10:10:18 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: txrangerette
When he was asked about abortion in cases of rape, all he needed to say was, I believe a baby is a living human being and it doesn’t make sense in my beliefs to abort the baby who is alive and who is innocent.

To absurdly start an argument over the “theory” that a woman who is forcibly raped is unlikely to get pregnant, and in the process of bringing that up, actually use the words “legitimate rape”, is so beyond the pale it’s beyond the belief he “went there”.

Even HE admits that now.

He just doesn’t want to suffer the consequences of leaving the race.

That's it in a nutshell. (Or should I say Akin-shell?)

50 posted on 08/23/2012 10:10:28 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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