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Fort Hood Shooter Trial Delayed Indefinitely Over Beard
The Blaze ^ | Augnust 18, 2012 | Madeleine Morgenstern

Posted on 08/19/2012 5:19:25 AM PDT by SLB

A military appeals court placed the trial for accused Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Hasan on hold indefinitely Friday amid continuing issues surrounding Hasan’s refusal to shave his beard, CNN reported.

The court martial was first halted Wednesday so the appeals court could consider the Army psychiatrist’s objections to being forcibly shaved. He has been fined and held in contempt repeatedly for remaining bearded, which is a violation of Army regulations, but says the facial hair is an expression of his faith. Hasan, 41, is an American-born Muslim.

Hasan’s court martial had been scheduled to start Monday for the 2009 mass shooting at Fort Hood, for which he faces 13 charges of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted meditated murder.

Hasan first grew the beard in June, prompting a pre-trial hearing to be postponed. The judge in the case, Col. Gregory Gross, threatened in July to have Hasan forcibly shaved if he did not comply with orders to remove the beard on his own.

According to CNN, it was unclear how long the case would be on hold.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; murder; muslim; pc
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To: SLB

Killing people is “an expression of his faith” obviously by definition. So why is he stopped from that? Such discrimination! Man we’re screwed.


51 posted on 08/19/2012 6:39:09 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: SLB
Nidal Hasan on hold indefinitely Friday amid continuing issues surrounding Hasan’s refusal to shave his beard, CNN reported.

Give him a special depilatory shampoo. Problem solved.
52 posted on 08/19/2012 6:43:49 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: SLB

Cease this faggotry at once.

53 posted on 08/19/2012 6:47:28 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: onedoug

That the murderer — part of the ROT (religion of terror) hasn’t been convicted at least means he can’t receive a presidential pardon ... which, although unthinkable to patriotic Americans, is not beyond the realm of possiblity.


54 posted on 08/19/2012 6:50:57 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: workerbee
Is this lunacy for real?

Why would it take two years to try this man? President Obama said we should not jump to conclusions on this his guilt.

And now we have to have a national debate on whether he can be leagally shaved, although as a member of the military he has already agreed to military grooming standards? Is President Obama shielding this man?

Either America gets common sense or it will be surpassed by Argentina.

55 posted on 08/19/2012 6:53:41 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: SLB

Cut eyeholes in a paper bag , put it over the SOB’s head and get this trial going.


56 posted on 08/19/2012 7:01:08 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Obama's plans not working? Gimme a break! You think the mess we are in happened by accident?)
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To: Gritty
Don't think for a second Muzzies all over the world don't see it and are laughing their heads off at the cowardly infidels and cheering their killers onward!

Especially the one in Washington DC.

57 posted on 08/19/2012 7:02:33 AM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: SLB
There's a long standing military tradition which alleviated problems similar to this one. If you had an individual who failed to take proper care of their “hygiene” issues, they would be forcibly dragged either to the shower or patio, soaped up and hosed down.

This would occur after ample warnings, “If you don't wash your stinky 'butt', I will wash it for you!”

I'd say we have a precedence.

58 posted on 08/19/2012 7:05:51 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: SLB

Strap him down, DRY SHAVE his whole stinking body, make him stand trial in only his skivvies.

That may keep some other wannabe mudslimz from trying a copy cat performance.


59 posted on 08/19/2012 7:08:41 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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To: SLB

If elected again, I fully expect Obama to pardon his fellow muzzie.


60 posted on 08/19/2012 7:10:18 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Signs of the Times are clear. The days grow short. Your only way to avoid is BELIEVE in Him!)
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To: bert
Shoot him, load the corpse on a C 130, and shove it out the back door over the ocean miles and miles from land

Save the ammo, just shove.

61 posted on 08/19/2012 7:11:18 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: duckman

It is overridden by the political correctness that the military has embraced. The man is in the military, not a Sikh, thus by military regulations, the beard must be shaved off, period. The memories of those killed by this SOB will forever be tarnished by this ludicrous behavior exhibited by the same military and country they served. =.=


62 posted on 08/19/2012 7:13:16 AM PDT by cranked
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Shave his beard with a chainsaw!

Semper Fi

Cheers...Chris


63 posted on 08/19/2012 7:14:27 AM PDT by Moose47 (Cooper's photo)
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To: SLB
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

If anybody doubts that our "justice system" is being run by an Insane Clown Posse, this should take care of it.

Well, at least the teacher chicklet who likes 18-year-old guys is goin' to jail for a long time. And Jon Corzine is walking around free, billions of stolen dollars later.

64 posted on 08/19/2012 7:16:54 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Diogenesis

It would seem to be easy enough to just try him in absentia and hang him beard and all then bury him with a nice fat Iowa pig!


65 posted on 08/19/2012 7:19:47 AM PDT by SPOTTEDOWL (Are frontal lobotomies prerequisite for being classified as a liberal?)
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To: cripplecreek

Re: Try him with the beard I don’t give a crap.

He murdered one of the soldiers I used to work with at Ft. Harrison, Mt. I say shave him by removing his head with a dull knife. OIF vet


66 posted on 08/19/2012 7:25:29 AM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: 3Fingas

“...but a ceremonial sword and some Barbasol could also work...”

Hey, whoa! I’ve been using Barbasol for forty years & it’s a smooth comfortable shave. And before you shave off a beard you have to snip it to stubble first. For Hasan, a jagged edged dry shave would give some justice.

Our government & military’s preoccupation with not offending Muslims is an even bigger problem than this sneak mass killer Hasan’s gaming the system to prolong his sorry presence on this Earth.

The only cold comfort seems to be that he is a quadraplegic for the rest of his miserable days and he’s no Charles Krauthammer. Hasan wanted a jihadi’s quick death and that brave female cop denied it to him.

Meanwhile the muzzies go on killing our people. Please to note my tagline.


67 posted on 08/19/2012 7:25:45 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: SLB

The judge in the case, Col. Gregory Gross, threatened in July to have Hasan forcibly shaved
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IMO: The Colonel has been advised that Obama doesn’t want a trial while he is running for election.


68 posted on 08/19/2012 7:30:59 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: SLB

So whats next? They clear up the beard issue and then he refuses to wear a uniform at the trial, putting off the trial even more?


69 posted on 08/19/2012 7:32:56 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: SLB

There is something the Obama justice department wants hidden in this affair that won’t be uncovered with a razor.


70 posted on 08/19/2012 7:42:32 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: SLB

Can’t they just proceed with this case with the defendant “in absentia”? Seems to me, I recall reading something about the UCMJ providing for that if the judge believes that defendant’s behavior warrants it. Let this turd sit in his cell, beard and all... until they come to strap him to the gurney.


71 posted on 08/19/2012 7:48:00 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Vaquero

Part of me says wait until we get an adult at Justice then throw the book at him, but my fear is that King Bozo Ohwhattheheck will pardon Hassan before his is trown out of the White House and ship him to Iraq as a goodwill ambassador...


72 posted on 08/19/2012 7:48:55 AM PDT by Shady (The Tea Party is the Party of the American People, Working and creating wealth in SPITE of OBAMA!)
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To: StAnDeliver; All
"They could try him with the beard, under the UCMJ, as a traitor or a spy."

Oddly enough, the easiest thing to try him as would be a traitor. The first paragraph of Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution provides:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

That's a deliberately hard standard to meet. However, all of it is a slam dunk in this case. Hasan clearly adhered to our Islamist enemies, giving them aid and comfort, in the presentations, witnesssed by many, that he made during grand rounds. He deliberately topped that off by waging actual war against the United States when he murdered 13 military and civilian people at Ft. Hood while yelling "Allah akbar!" Now he's providing more aid and comfort to our enemies by refusing to shave, in open court and before many people.

He isn't bering tried for treason and the military people he killed and wounded haven't been given Purple Hearts because and only because Hussein himself is a traitor who enthusistically sympathizes with, aids, and supports our most evil Islamist enemies.

73 posted on 08/19/2012 7:54:15 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

“At 4:45 p.m., commanded by Gen. Douglas MacArthur, the 12th Infantry Regiment, Fort Howard, Maryland, and the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, supported by six battle tanks commanded by Maj. George S. Patton, formed in Pennsylvania Avenue while thousands of civil service employees left work to line the street and watch. The Bonus Marchers, believing the troops were marching in their honor, cheered the troops until Patton ordered the cavalry to charge them—an action which prompted the spectators to yell, “Shame! Shame!”
Shacks that members of the Bonus Army erected on the Anacostia Flats burning after the confrontation with the military.”

“After the cavalry charged, the infantry, with fixed bayonets and adamsite gas, an arsenical vomiting agent, entered the camps, evicting veterans, families, and camp followers. The veterans fled across the Anacostia River to their largest camp and President Hoover ordered the assault stopped. However Gen. MacArthur, feeling the Bonus March was a Communist attempt to overthrow the U.S. government, ignored the President and ordered a new attack. Fifty-five veterans were injured and 135 arrested.[11] A veteran’s wife miscarried. When 12-week-old Bernard Myers died in the hospital after being caught in the tear gas attack, a government investigation reported he died of enteritis, while a hospital spokesman said the tear gas “didn’t do it any good.”

“During the military operation, Major Dwight D. Eisenhower, later President of the United States, served as one of MacArthur’s junior aides.[16] Believing it wrong for the Army’s highest-ranking officer to lead an action against fellow American war veterans, he strongly advised MacArthur against taking any public role: “I told that dumb son-of-a-bitch not to go down there,” he said later. “I told him it was no place for the Chief of Staff.”[17] Despite his misgivings, Eisenhower later wrote the Army’s official incident report which endorsed MacArthur’s conduct.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army#U.S._Army_intervention

Piss on Patton, MacArthur, and Eisenhower. I USED to hold them in high regard.


74 posted on 08/19/2012 7:56:02 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Coldwater Creek
I liked "crows" better, LOL.

Leni

75 posted on 08/19/2012 8:07:23 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: SLB

An alternative view. The military wants him tried under a Republican President so that when he get the death penalty it wont be commuted by the President. Assuming the current one doesn’t just outright pardon him.


76 posted on 08/19/2012 8:09:52 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SLB

Dry shave him with an old fashion double edged blade! It works every time it is tried.

(Dry shave = no water, no lather or foam! Just a good old fashion DULL razor blade on the beard!)


77 posted on 08/19/2012 8:12:02 AM PDT by RdhseRat
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To: SLB

He murdered people and was seen doing it. Trial? What is called for here is some frontier Justice and be done with it. Did he or did he not kill the victims? He is already a walking dead man. We don’t need a show trial, he should have been forgotten history by now.


78 posted on 08/19/2012 8:13:28 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Who you chose as President isn't as important as his choice of political appointees.)
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To: RdhseRat

It has nothing to do with a beard...it has all to do with the upcoming election.


79 posted on 08/19/2012 8:14:02 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: SLB

Good lord; court martial him for refusing the orders of a superior officer, reduce him in rank to E1 and loss of all pay and allowances. Then court martial him on the murder charges and use the beard as the final nail in his coffin and yes
I mean sentence him to death.
Now can I mention a method of execution? There are hog farms where there is so much manure that the farms have large holding ponds. Tye a concrete block to his ankles and drop him in. There are many sources that say drowning is a very painless and easy death so I don’t want to hear any claims of cruelty.


80 posted on 08/19/2012 8:33:13 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH ((Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.)
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To: hal ogen

-——all I know is , when I got off the bus at the Army training camp at Ft Jackson, one of our first assignments was a visit to the “Barber Shoppe” where we as recruits and on the US payroll were REQUIRED to be SHORN. NO exceptions!This POS is still being paid as if he was “on duty”. What’s the darn problem. Follow your orders!!??


81 posted on 08/19/2012 8:36:47 AM PDT by oldbugleboy
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

And while I’m at it, piss on the troops who followed Patton’s and MacArthur’s orders to attack the WWI vets.


82 posted on 08/19/2012 8:41:40 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Sequoyah101

Do not feed him to the hogs. That would put me off any pork for at least a year. Yuck!


83 posted on 08/19/2012 8:45:31 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH ((Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.)
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To: SLB
The judge in the case, Col. Gregory Gross, threatened in July to have Hasan forcibly shaved if he did not comply with orders to remove the beard on his own.

One should never make a threat one is not prepared to follow through on. (And mostly it's better not to threaten at all - just do it!)

This makes the judge look like a pathetic weakling. He should recuse himself.

84 posted on 08/19/2012 8:46:21 AM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: SLB

If those involved had some wit, they would feed Hasan a mickey, then use laser hair removal over his entire beard area while he was asleep. Then the judge could order him to not regrow his beard, and, lo and behold, it wouldn’t grow, “just because the judge ordered it not to!”


85 posted on 08/19/2012 8:51:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: SLB
According to CNN, it was unclear how long the case would be on hold.

It'll be on hold until after the election. CNN's can't connect dots when the dots make dems look self-serving...

86 posted on 08/19/2012 9:17:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: SLB

When you have top ranking people in the White Hut, the DOD, including the Pentagon and JAG, who are giving aid and comfort to the enemy, is the fact this islamoterrorist is still alive and growing a beard any surprise?


87 posted on 08/19/2012 9:50:48 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: bert

Maggots & buzzards gotta eat, too. Dump it in an open field.


88 posted on 08/19/2012 10:34:06 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: SLB

Blanket party.

Trial.

Firing squad.


89 posted on 08/19/2012 1:11:29 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (RINO season is open. No limit. Make them extinct.)
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To: depressed in 06
What’s next, we try the arresting officers for shooting him?

If I had been there that day, we would not be talking about a trial for this muslime. I'd have taken his gun and emptied a full magazine into his sorry muslime butt.

90 posted on 08/19/2012 1:18:56 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (RINO season is open. No limit. Make them extinct.)
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To: W. W. SMITH
Do not feed him to the hogs. That would put me off any pork for at least a year. Yuck!

Hey, we have plenty of feral hogs in Texas, including the Killeen area. I say stake his sorry muslime butt to an area frequented by them and let them dine on crap.

91 posted on 08/19/2012 1:21:52 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (RINO season is open. No limit. Make them extinct.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I thought the judge threatened to shave the beard himself .. what happened to that ..????


92 posted on 08/19/2012 2:41:39 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: SLB

The man volunteered for duty. He signed a contract and swore an oath to obey lawful orders. No beards in the Army has been a long standing order in modern times. This is 100% pure B.S.


93 posted on 08/19/2012 3:23:39 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Sequoyah101

Everyone seems to want to spend money on this piece of filth. No need to shave him, no need for a costly trial, no need to feed um.

Just tie him to some large chunks of scrap concrete and push him out over the ocean somewhere from a C130 that was headed that way anyways.

The water will take care of the rest for you.


94 posted on 08/20/2012 3:49:01 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

Not a thing wrong with that plan either. We don’t need to spend any more time or money on this piece of crap.


95 posted on 08/20/2012 7:41:24 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average, they voted for oblabla.)
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To: SLB

For sadistic entertainment, put him in a bare cell, put him in restraints, and give him head lice. he’ll be screaming for a razor in 24 hrs. Those little bugs are quite annoying!


96 posted on 08/21/2012 11:06:34 AM PDT by sassy steel magnolia (USAF life and Navy wife...God Bless the USA!)
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