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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 19 August 2012
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 19 August 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 08/19/2012 5:14:43 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



August 19th, 2012

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Ed Gillespie, adviser to Romney's campaign; Robert Gibbs, adviser to Obama's campaign.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Govs. Martin O'Malley, D-Md., and Bob McDonnell, R-Va.; Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed; Ted Cruz, Republican Senate nominee in Texas.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill.; former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani; Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform; Neera Tanden, president of the Center for American Progress.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Stephanie Cutter, deputy campaign manager for President Barack Obama's re-election campaign; Kevin Madden, adviser to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign; Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa; Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.; Norquist.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Cutter; Eric Fehrnstrom, adviser to Romney's campaign; former Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012veep; bho2012; guests; lineup; mcdonnell; romney2012; sunday; talkshows
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To: Alas Babylon!

And there’s yer dam two-hunnert soundbite Larri.


201 posted on 08/19/2012 9:07:42 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: kabar

The chart is great, but labels should indicate red for Obama-Biden and green for R-R.

As to FNC, Gillespie was not as sharp as he should have been. Took 3 questions for him to get to the critical message, and Chris Wallace helped take him there:

1. Obama raided $716 B from Medicare to feed Obamacare

2. Obamacare will drain immediate $$$ from seniors

3. No one 55 and older affected.

Gillespie: do better pronto.


202 posted on 08/19/2012 9:11:07 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: rodguy911

What does RIH mean?


203 posted on 08/19/2012 9:12:29 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: no-to-illegals

The American people get the G’ment we elect. For many years now we have known that the Democrats are Socialist dictators who desire to reduce this country to third world status.
Candidates running under the Republican banner have been mostly the same.

The Last time Republicans even attempted to reduce the Socialist creep of the Federal G’ment was Newt’s failed attempt at reducing the growth of the Federal G’ment in 1995.

2010 and 2012 has provided candidates who actually talk about eliminating Federal G’ment - Ted Cruz is just one example. Ryan may prove to be another


204 posted on 08/19/2012 9:15:39 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: married21

Rot in Hell...


205 posted on 08/19/2012 9:16:04 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: mwl8787

Gillespie didn’t mention the ACA Death Panel that will affect seniors and everyone else immediately. This should be about Obamacare and its problems—not Medicare. The majority of Americans want Obamacare repealed. The 2010 mid terms should be used as a template,.


206 posted on 08/19/2012 9:17:48 AM PDT by kabar
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To: rodguy911; All

Yep, want to share with you all some financial insights, as some of us are still saving for our retirement/future. I am going for the turn-around. Don’t take this as rock solid financial advice, just an option to discuss. I am not the author;

Market Meltdown Portfolio
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2920161/posts

“a rundown of a portfolio that I think will hold up in any adverse market collapse”


207 posted on 08/19/2012 9:18:01 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: DanZ
The Last time Republicans even attempted to reduce the Socialist creep of the Federal G’men

You forget Bush's attempt to reform Soc Security in 2005 that was torpedoed by McCain and a gutless RINO clique in the US Senate

208 posted on 08/19/2012 9:19:07 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: DanZ
The American people get the G’ment we elect.

Which brings up a thought, I have. Did American voters elect them, or were our politicians selected? I used to think I knew. In the present, there are too many gray areas fading to black or fog for me to now hold the opinion American voters elect our leaders, and leaders are not selected. Not sure ... and the other reasons I hold for my current beliefs are money, media, and sound bites. Basically the voters are told by money, media, and sound bites nothing on which to base a decision or a vote. IMHO Friend.

209 posted on 08/19/2012 9:25:55 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Meet the Press tipped off a new dem strategy ...

NBC has come up with (via dem PR firm 'help') a monthly unemployment map. A map made Obama's team look bad this month - high unemployment all over the US... BUT WILL LOOK GREAT BEFORE THE ELECTION. Watch and see.

In short liberals are going to gig the numbers. Worse than truthful now - better than truthful before the election. Compare the MAPS - SEE THE TREND - STEP RIGHT UP FOLKS...

It's an old carney con - and 'the press' won't catch it. In fact, NBC is in on the con - wait and see.

210 posted on 08/19/2012 9:28:09 AM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: Morgan in Denver

And you can always counter trickle down with logic, asking if they are advocate open faucet or closed faucet instead? And then, ‘how’s that work’?


211 posted on 08/19/2012 9:29:32 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Bernard

Men’s Health magazine says the Egg McMuffin is one of the healthiest breakfasts a person can consume.


212 posted on 08/19/2012 9:30:38 AM PDT by Crawdad
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To: Bernard

I agree with you. Mooch-ells’s public scolding of Gabby was detestible. The child had too much good upbringing to retort or challenge an “adult” but she was clearly uncomfortable.

Mooch-elle’s comment was not in jest. The B is serious about controlling all behavior...and she wants PAID! to do so.


213 posted on 08/19/2012 9:33:29 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Alas Babylon!
Meet the Press tipped off a new dem strategy ...

NBC has come up with (via dem PR firm 'help') a monthly unemployment map. The map made Obama's team look bad this month - high unemployment all over the US... BUT WILL LOOK GREAT BEFORE THE ELECTION. Watch and see.

In short liberals are going to gig the numbers. Worse than truthful now - better than truthful before the election. Compare the MAPS - SEE THE TREND - STEP RIGHT UP FOLKS...

It's an old carnival con - and 'the press' won't catch it. In fact, NBC is in on the con - wait and see.

214 posted on 08/19/2012 9:37:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: Son House

I tend to counter it using how does demand side economics work? The answer is put money in the hands of buyers and they will spend it to grow the economy. That begs the explanation that the money has to be take from someone before giving it to someone else. And that by eliminating the concept of producing something of value that can be sold, the cycle stops at giving away money someone else earned. Neither party wins.


215 posted on 08/19/2012 9:44:31 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: Bernard

Further....I used to make Egg McMuffins.

An English muffin, little butter, little square sliver of cheese, a small round of Canadian bacon....not a fatty meat. Fried egg, not even fried in butter.

About 250-300 calories I’d guess.

Moochelle....jeez louise I hope the American people get a clue about this silly woman.


216 posted on 08/19/2012 9:44:45 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: upchuck
FWIW, I have a regular Medicare supplement, a "J" plan, plans vary from state to state, and have yet to be billed a penny for procedures. And I've had some expensive ones done.

No one wants to bring up the "choice" that seniors have to make about spending money to cover all or some of the medical expenses that Medicare does not cover. I spent some serious time in our local hospital this past year, and my only bills were for telephone/tv - because I also had chosen a very comprehensive Medicare SUPPLEMENT plan.

217 posted on 08/19/2012 9:49:29 AM PDT by maica
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To: Alas Babylon!
I was trying to watch FNS, MTP, and "Jake takes the telephone books off the chair and sits in for Little Georgie" at the same time and all the snappy patter from the different shows ran together.

General impression; The Republican spokesmen need to hammer the the same points over and over and over;

Step 1 to recovery is to get Obama and his Regluation Zombies out of the Executive Branch,

Step 2 is to have adults run the tax legislation. We will not have an economic recovery that involves job growth until business owners (the golden gooses who actually are sitting on the cash) feel comfortable that they can reasonably plan, and Barack Obama does not understand that because he has never even run a lemonade stand, let alone met a payroll, and

Step 3 - we need to realize that it is not in our National Interest to have our cheap plastic crap made in China. It is, however, in our National Interest to have our cheap plastic crap made in Mexico. That way we can save on labor cost because we can't quit our regulatory addiction and if real jobs existed in Mexico all those illegals who don't have a nationality would just walk home and stay home with the jobs and opportunities they can't find at home now.

218 posted on 08/19/2012 9:59:34 AM PDT by Bernard (Let us all pray for Barack Obama. Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Fishtalk

Regarding your drug costs, have you tried Kmart pharmacy, Fishtalk? Kmart has a prescription savings plan that costs $10 a year for the household. I was helping someone find a lower cost alternative to a generic drug that cost them over $100 at Walmart (they have no insurance). After paying the $10 fee for the drug plan, the cost at Kmart was about $25. Not sure if they carry generics for the drugs you take, but it might be worth a phone call to your local Kmart pharmacy to see what your regimen would cost compared to what you are paying.


219 posted on 08/19/2012 10:02:03 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: TomGuy
YOU have been paying in to both SS and Medicare during your working years.

And that money is long gone. If Democrats control anything after the election, the budget shortfalls from a total lack of economic activity are going to be more noticeable, IMHO.
220 posted on 08/19/2012 10:05:28 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Yep, watching THIS WEEK (ABC) earlier they missed the correlation between tax cuts and increased revenue to the treasury too. The good news is no matter how Democrats try to sell their plan, it is getting more evident it doesn’t work for private sector growth.


221 posted on 08/19/2012 10:11:11 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House

I agree but it drives me nuts that our side does not explain growing the economy increases tax revenues that are not counted by the CBO OR the Democrats. So the assumptions thrown at our side is a false narrative.


222 posted on 08/19/2012 10:20:02 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: Kahuna
I'm guessing his wife still has him pinned to the mattress...

Cheers!

223 posted on 08/19/2012 10:22:42 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Kahuna
Any reason that Paul Ryan is absent on the Sunday circuit?

I'm guessing his wife still has him pinned to the mattress...

Cheers!

224 posted on 08/19/2012 10:23:10 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: rodguy911

Yep, been having that discussion with a know-it-all, and it’s so disappointing that otherwise normal nice fella gets all loud and conversation dominate as he blurts out false information, and I humbly keep having to correct him. Next time, I will be less humble as I recap our previous discussions and require him to have facts or cork it.


225 posted on 08/19/2012 10:31:25 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: MNJohnnie

Just goes to my first point - Most elected Republicans are Socialist wannabe dictators just like their good friends the Democrats


226 posted on 08/19/2012 10:34:40 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: DanZ
I'm sorry but the math doesn't support your opinions.

Bush and last GOP Congress budget deficit 2006-$160 billion

Obama and last Democrat Congress deficit 2010-1.6 Trillion

227 posted on 08/19/2012 10:40:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: no-to-illegals
If the VOTERS chose to believe the propaganda emanating from the Boob tube, they have no one but themselves to blame for the choices they make.

Repeal the 19th amendment, and only let landowners vote (Smile)

228 posted on 08/19/2012 10:40:11 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: Fishtalk
About 250-300 calories I’d guess. Moochelle....jeez louise I hope the American people get a clue about this silly woman.

I guess the Wookiee Chewbaklava can't get her well-toned arms around that.

229 posted on 08/19/2012 10:45:39 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Girlene
Wallace takes issue with Gibbs chuckling at his characterization of “non-elected” board members. Gibbs points out they are medical professionals.

So was Dr. Mengele...

230 posted on 08/19/2012 10:46:19 AM PDT by Gritty (A hundred million people want Obama in power because he's 'their' crook-Daniel Greenfield)
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To: MNJohnnie

My opinion is that the elected representatives - both the Democrats and Republicans have been growing the Federal G’ment. This being the equivalent of Socialism.
Bush - No child left behind. We can look at the Iraq and Afghan wars with another perspective - Bomb them to the stone age, get out and let them figure it out. This was somewhat the case for Easter Europe when FDR sold this portion of the world to Communist tyranny. Or spend the time and money to nation build.

I am looking for candidates who will work to eliminate Federal G’ment departments. This should help reduce the Federal budget and give us back our freedom


231 posted on 08/19/2012 10:53:32 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: Morgan in Denver

Yep, doing my part for ALL business, Made in the USA too;

Deluxe Kitty Suite
http://www.beatrisepet.com/content/deluxe-kitty-suite
Chattanooga,TN 37421

Plant Locations:
Chatsworth, GA
Dalton, GA

It has a nice big top perch, my main buying point, but my cats have yet to figure out how to get all the way to the top, so I’ve put it by the window with a couple of assistance furnishes around it, here’s where I actually got it;
http://www.fleetfarm.com/mff/detail/beatrise-deluxe-kitty-suite/0000000030265


232 posted on 08/19/2012 10:57:04 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: MNJohnnie

As when someone says both parties are alike, no, they were, but the conservatives are actively trying to rid Republicans of the spoiled politicians, well Democrat supporters will put up with it at any cost just to see a Democrat elected over a Republican.


233 posted on 08/19/2012 10:59:49 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: PAR

We have other arguments at heritage.org.
The stuff below from heritage makes great arguments and if we don’t start using it soon we may regret it.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/07/top-5-reasons-taxmageddon-is-destroying-jobs?rel=Taxes

Here is a list of the top five reasons we need to use more in our arguments to win.
1. If Job creators are over taxed its costs 700k jobs,you cans see the detail in the link.
2.The “uncertainty” alone for investors is a huge problem not knowing what the obama regime will do next currently has billions upon billions of investment capital on the sidelines not doing anything but collecting dust and lots of it offshore.
3.The more taxation the lower the incentive.
4. Within obamacare alone just to mention a few of the problems is a 3.8% investment tax of all things. You just can’t win with socialism.
5. The death tax kicks in big time with an obama win.

As you can see there is so much at stake financially its the difference between a huge win for the economy vs. socialism coming after every producer in the country and we haven’t even touched on energy or anything else.


234 posted on 08/19/2012 11:00:05 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: married21

RIH=rat(democrat) in hiding


235 posted on 08/19/2012 11:02:55 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Son House
In this video I give you a rundown of a portfolio that I think will hold up in any adverse market collapse. The premise boils down to 3 major equity/asset categories: 1)Energy %25 2)Precious Metals %25 3)Defensive (ie Walmart, JNJ, McD,etc) %50 This is a simple, straight-forward approach to protect your capital and wealth in this tulmultuous time. Part 1: Just a recap, here are the companies I give a green thumb to: Energy: 25% of Portfolio 1) Royal Dutch Shell (RDS.A) 5.5% yield 2) Calumet (CLMT) 10% yield 3) Uranium Participation Corp (URPTF) 0% yield or Cameco Corp (CCJ) 2% yield Precious Metals: 25% of Portfolio 1) Buy one Major Gold Minor: -Barricks Gold Corp (ABX) 2% yield -Goldcorp (GG) 1.40% yield -Newmont Mining Corp (NEM) 2.8% yield -Kinross Gold (KGC) 2% yield -Randgold (GOLD) 0.40% yield Part 2: 2)Buy 1 minor Gold producer/explorer: -Carpathian Gold (CPNFF) 3) Buy 1 Major Silver Producer -Silver Wheaton Corp (SLW) 1.30% yield 4) Buy 1 mid-Major Silver Producer -Silvercorp (SVM) 1.50% yield And then allocate some of your portfolio to physical precious metals. Look into SilverSaver(dot)com Part 3: 50% of the portfolio Moat Stocks: 1)Walmart (WMT) - 2.30% yield 2) Johnson & Johnson (JNJ) - 3.90% yield 3) Proctor and Gamble (PG) - 3.6% yield 4) Coca-Cola (KO) - 2.70% yield 5) McDonalds (MCD) - 3.20% yield TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Click to Add Topic KEYWORDS: 401k; economy; ira; market; meltdown; portfolio; rothira; stockmarket; stockportfolio; Click to Add Keyword This is about where I am at investment wise too, so I thought it a good discussion for those of us who are not getting completely out of the market, yet. Just to clarify, I am only a small 401k investor and this is not me, but I'll have to say he's thinking along similar lines; About SonOfAbba's channel => Investor, entrepreneur, libertarian-leaning Christian. Looks good son,not a bad portfolio at all.
236 posted on 08/19/2012 11:14:22 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Gritty
Exactly. IPAB is an Acronym for Death Panels

That's a lot of power.
237 posted on 08/19/2012 11:16:28 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Gritty
So was Dr. Mengele...

... and Kevorkian.

238 posted on 08/19/2012 11:17:03 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Too many thinking Freepers have left the building...)
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To: GOPJ
Could well be. Unemployment was up in over 40 states and is probably at 8.6% right now the way they calculate it. And in reality closer to 15%. These guys are class A1 liars. They can spin anything you are probably right.

The other thing thy are doing is the blue/red dem Republican state map on CNN and other dem nets. They are showing how zero has it all sewn up and its all uphill for Romney to win.Very slick. Truth is the swing states are everything this year and we are ahead in almost all or trending up.

239 posted on 08/19/2012 11:21:14 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: TomGuy

Didn’t stay to look at the count, but there’s at least mine added....

Just GRRRRRRRRRRR...


240 posted on 08/19/2012 11:24:04 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: DanZ
My opinion is that the elected representatives - both the Democrats and Republicans...

The problem with your opinion is: All RATs are socialists, but only some of the Republicans are. Some of the RINOs are now gone.

We anticipate more TEApublican members this Fall.

241 posted on 08/19/2012 11:24:54 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: rodguy911; All

He’s got more good stuff too, in this one he points out what is wrong with Democrat Economist, I hope he catches on with some conservative talk show host, a much better guest then all the ones the media likes to get for the ‘unexpected’ headlines;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KFnM6iSsSQ&list=UUvgqC_r_dg5VMDLaF9FDhIg&index=1&feature=plpp_video

Here’s all his video’s, they recap topics we should all be familiar with;
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUvgqC_r_dg5VMDLaF9FDhIg&feature=plcp


242 posted on 08/19/2012 11:30:29 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Morgan in Denver; All
Good post. Another one is the 716 billion that the regime raids from medicare gutting the fund and almost insuring that there will be fewer doctors around to even participate in caring for medicare patients.They(doctors) are already dropping out like flies everywhere and more and more doctors promising to simply retire before they will put up with the regimes BS. Gibbs argument,believe it or not, is that the providers need to be more efficient. that the dems want to see a huge rate of increased efficiency in treatment--in other words they want Santa Claus. Not a word about tort reform which is why costs are through the roof now with double and triple checks to avoid law suits,the providers have to "change". Its all bullsh_t.

If we don't hammer them on this one we deserve to lose.

243 posted on 08/19/2012 11:30:29 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

Yeah, with all the volatility in the economy, I have been closely looking at options. As long as Romney wins, there is a chance to get back to fiscal sanity. If not, I may be wishing I listened to Ann Barnhardt;

Ann Barnhardt: ‘If You’re Still in These Markets You’re Either Stupid or On Drugs! ‘
http://www.silverdoctors.com/ann-barnhardt-if-youre-still-in-these-markets-youre-either-stupid-or-on-drugs/

Ann: It’s just par for the course, and really the big news within the last few days relative to the PFG case is the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals decision- relative to (and I know we’re getting into lots of different companies and lots of different outfits here) the Sentinel Management Group, which was a non-clearing FCM, that was a Ponzi, that crashed all the way back in 2007. So this happened 5 years ago, and they’re just getting the stuff adjudicated- like I said, the decision from the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals just was published on Friday.

What that decision said, unbelievably, is that basically all property rights in the United States are gone. Up in smoke.

The court ruled that if you have money with an FCM and they fraudulently used YOUR MONEY that they’re holding as a custodian- if they use your funds to go and borrow money to finance their own in-house proprietary trading desk, when that Ponzi collapses, the customers have absolutely no rights to their own property, and that the counter-party- meaning the mega-bank that lended the FCM the money fraudulently, they stay at the front of the line!


244 posted on 08/19/2012 11:31:43 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House

Cool, but we have dogs. (laughing)

Still, we’re doing our best to buy USA as much as possible.


245 posted on 08/19/2012 11:37:37 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: Son House

Sounds like you are up against a typical brainwashed Democrat. They get frustrated real easy and super quick! Whenever they encounter solid arguments with real stats reality hits them really quite hard. They have to leave Disney world, say good bye to Santa and when they hit bottom it hurts.


246 posted on 08/19/2012 11:40:06 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: DanZ

That’s why we are here Dan to straighten their sorry asses out!!


247 posted on 08/19/2012 11:41:37 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Morgan in Denver

I keep my fishing rods in racks.They don’t eat much and don’t poop on the floor. Don’t howl at the neighbors either!!
LOL!!!


248 posted on 08/19/2012 11:46:33 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

One thing that’s amazing to me is Democrats say their savings will come from “waste, fraud and abuse” yet they are guilty of creating waste fraud and abuse either directly by giving it to their crony supporters or from people gaming their inefficient bureaucracy. In other words, Democrats caused the problems that they say will provide savings.

Ain’t gonna happen.


249 posted on 08/19/2012 11:51:26 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: rodguy911

Well that’s the same as my #205!


250 posted on 08/19/2012 12:41:27 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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