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WATCH: Police gun down Michigan man with 46 shots in 5 seconds
New York Daily News ^ | August 18, 2012 | Charlie Wells

Posted on 08/18/2012 8:01:20 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

Stunning new footage of six police officers gunning down a Michigan man in an intense, five-second burst of 46 shots was made public Friday, setting off fierce reaction from members of a community still grappling with the incident.

"I'm stunned that six human beings would stand in front of one human being and fire 46 shots," victim Milton Hall’s mother, Jewel, told CNN.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: hall; michigan; police; suicidebycops
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To: ConservativeStatement

Sure they squeezed off 46 rounds...

Given some LEO’s inability to hit the broad side of a barn..

How many of them hit their intended target?


21 posted on 08/18/2012 8:26:18 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn
How many of them hit their intended target?

Good question. And judging from the video, I wonder how many rounds hit him in the back.

22 posted on 08/18/2012 8:28:56 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
That video is awful! It looks like some third world execution squad.

I'm pro-cop, but this will not be good. I'm sure Al Sharpton is flying in as we speak.

23 posted on 08/18/2012 8:30:49 PM PDT by boop (It's not personal...it's strictly business)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Apparently the Saginaw PD had tazed someone back in April and the guy died.

http://www.minbcnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=740772#.UDBdVEROiKg

My guess is the Tazers were then probably blocked from use pending a review.


24 posted on 08/18/2012 8:31:00 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Once the police start shooting, how many shots they fire is insignificant. Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight. There is a video on the web somewhere of a similar situation in South America. The cops were too hesitant to shoot and the bad guy managed to cut one or two and actually killed one. Remember the 21 foot rule. A person can cover 21 feet before even an experienced person can draw a gun.


25 posted on 08/18/2012 8:31:43 PM PDT by suthener
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To: FightforFreedomCA

To watch or not to watch is a personal call. The video might be instructive to others. I watched the Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg murders to steel my resolve that the perpetrators of the “religion of peace” were my enemies. The videos were gruesome to be sure but violent death is quite commonplace whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.


26 posted on 08/18/2012 8:33:22 PM PDT by old school
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To: boop

Even better as far as racial poverty pimpers are concerned, Barack Obama gets to Zimmerize the whole group. Why would Barack turn the opportunity down? He’s enough of a fool to double and triple down on it.


27 posted on 08/18/2012 8:34:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: ConservativeStatement

Looks to me, after a few viewings, like he was walking away. Somebody got itchy and the rest on hearing the first shot let her rip. That’s the problem with groups with guns. The shoot or don’t shoot training cenerios don’t include all your buddies on your right and left shooting.

Nightmare.


28 posted on 08/18/2012 8:34:48 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The homicide is between 1:45 and 1:50. Leading up to it the victim is belligerent, indecisive and obviously ‘not right’. The police bring out a dog and he freaks. It then looks like turns his back and starts to walk away, and they all open up on him simultaneously like at a firing range. Frankly, it looks like they shot him in the back as he was retreating. Film is shot from a distance, so hard to see. Fortunately for the viewer it is too distant to be gruesome, but if this is a ‘justifiable’ use and level of force in the circumstances then we are indeed in a Yankee-doodle Soviet.

I am not sure that general knowledge that the target is ‘assaultive’ is an adequate defense just yet.


29 posted on 08/18/2012 8:34:59 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Reports: Albuquerque police activist is mother of Milton Hall, homeless man killed in altercation with police

She said witnesses told her that her son walked into a store for coffee and “either forgot to pay for it or made a remark to the clerk,” which is why the clerk called police.

She said he was holding a “plastic knife, like you would get in the convenience store,” according to reports.

Police said Milton Hall was wielding a 3-inch folding knife.

Several sites, including the Albuquerque Journal and SFGate.com, refer to Jewel Hall as an Albuquerque police critic because she has been pushing for a federal probe of the Albuquerque Police Department over 24 officer-involved shootings since 2010.

http://birchrunchamber.org/reports-albuquerque-police-activist-is-mother-of-milton-hall-homeless-man-killed-in-altercation-with-police/


30 posted on 08/18/2012 8:34:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: ConservativeStatement
Can't tell enough from the video. Perhaps the dead guy suddenly reached for his waistband.

Maybe one of the cops though he/she could shoot the knife from his hand but failed to notify the other officers of the plan.

31 posted on 08/18/2012 8:35:43 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Spktyr

With tasers this fellow might theoretically have died... without tasers he was guaranteed Swiss Cheese. What to do, what to do? Liberals hoist on their own petard.


32 posted on 08/18/2012 8:35:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

There was no life or death situation. There were, however, 6 guns against 1 knife. They either panicked or just simply wanted to fill him full of lead. It tells me there were no cool heads there. It’s ok, until it happens to one of us.


33 posted on 08/18/2012 8:36:53 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: cableguymn

“How many of them hit their intended target?”

Enough.


34 posted on 08/18/2012 8:37:23 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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35 posted on 08/18/2012 8:38:24 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yup. And they won’t allow cops to have nightsticks because they might use them to Rodney King someone for being black. -rolleyes-


36 posted on 08/18/2012 8:39:43 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

That video does not make the officers look very good. There did not look to be a threat that warranted that reaction. A taser was surely indicated, or why did they not use the dog as they had threatened? Shooting has come to be the first alternative now. He was likely shot because he did not obey commands, regardless of any perceived danger. When an officer knows that all he has to do to clear himself of a uniformed killing is to say, “I felt threatened,” he is much more likely to shoot a suspect or a perp just because it is easier than other methods.


37 posted on 08/18/2012 8:41:46 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: Psalm 144

No tasers (though perhaps per spktyr, maybe that was simply not allowed) and group shooting the knifist in the back.

Yup (and I didn’t want to look, I am not a voyeur of slayings) this is going to be pretty. Barack Obama now has a fairly plausible case of “police acted stupidly” to toss out in his campaign. Get waffling civil libertarians back to his side.


38 posted on 08/18/2012 8:41:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: boop

Hope the guy who filmed that makes it to court to testify.....


39 posted on 08/18/2012 8:42:57 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Spktyr

Even conking him cold over the head from behind would have been far superior to what seemed to have transpired.


40 posted on 08/18/2012 8:43:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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