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H-Pís malaise signals a wrong turn in the Valley
Market Watch ^ | August 10,2012 | JOHN DVORAK'S

Posted on 08/12/2012 1:55:01 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Hewlett-Packard Co. appears to be at a point of no return. Either Meg Whitman fixes everything wrong with the company or we may see the end of H-P.

Thus we are about to witness the greatest comeback in history, which will set Whitman up as one of the greatest chief executives ever, or we’ll witness the incomprehensible.

The incomprehensible is the end of the progenitor of the entire Silicon Valley mythos. This is THE company that began in a garage and allowed other companies to begin in a garage, all in the Palo Alto- Menlo Park area.

Yes, like a monument to abject failure, Solyndra stands out on the road. All part of a dead love affair with all things green.

This is what happened to suck the energy out of Silicon Valley. Elsewhere most of the world’s lesser venture capitalists were throwing their funds into MEMs (micro-electrical-mechanical systems). The Silicon Valley boys were going after trendy “green” inventions.

Billions of dollars that could have been used to create the next generation of integrated circuits or a unique new real technology invention instead went into green dead-ends. This includes batteries and battery cars as well as solar with ideas such as Solyndra.

When the Chinese came in with older solar technology that was simply cheaper, none of our new ideas could compete, if they ever could. It was over instantly.

The green thing began with Obama and the emergence of numerous green funds, many looking for government handouts. The ludicrous appearance of Al Gore as a venture capitalist working with Kleiner, Perkins highlights the errors.

After witnessing what has happened in the last few years, especially with H-P, I do not have high hopes.

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To: DoughtyOne

I had one HP laptop about five years ago with design-based technical problems and a hideous experience with their customer service. I vowed never to get another product from them.


21 posted on 08/12/2012 3:01:38 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cicero

No, it’s Carly who was at HP previously.

Meg actually had a pretty good long-time run building ebay—which made her a billionaire.


22 posted on 08/12/2012 3:05:07 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cicero

I think you’re confusing her with Carly Fiorina.


23 posted on 08/12/2012 3:06:46 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Cicero

No, that was Carly Fiorina. Whitman almost killed eBay.


24 posted on 08/12/2012 3:10:57 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: 9YearLurker

“I had one HP laptop about five years ago with design-based technical problems and a hideous experience with their customer service. I vowed never to get another product from them.”

As did many others, including myself who tells any PC client contemplating a new laptop purchase: “Whatever you do, don’t buy an HP.” So, crapola laptops is one of the many reasons HP is dying. (The earlier post about Carly killing HP is right on, too.)

HP has made some of the worst laptops ever for a big company that supposedly makes quality products. I’ve used a few HP laptops in various contexts, and as a PC technician I’ve seen a multitude of prematurely dead or dying HP laptops come into my shop - a great many more than other brands.

Almost every PC company has an occasional lemon, but with HP, it’s an occasional laptop model that lasts longer than three years without going kaput.


25 posted on 08/12/2012 3:17:10 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: tophat9000
Capital is the blood of an economy ...Americas economy dies when its Capital bleeds out ...and "green" is a bleeding wound

I wish more Americans understood that.

26 posted on 08/12/2012 3:20:06 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Without economic freedom, no other form of freedom can have material meaning.)
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To: 9YearLurker

You know what gets me, it’s when I have a great experience with anything, a computer, a restaurant, a baby sitter... you get the picture, I recommend them and the person I recommend them to has a terrible experience.

I’ve done this with my folks, friends, business associates...

It’s a real pain.

Sorry you had a bad experience too.

I know I’ve had outrageous bad service at some businesses, and everyone else I know has a great experience with them.

Strange...


27 posted on 08/12/2012 3:27:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: Noumenon
Dvorak, ass that he is, is occasionally right on the money. This is one of those times.

Indeed Noumenon! "My dinner with IBM" was a prescient Dvorak column in the early 90's.

I was always more of a Robert X. Cringely fan.

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28 posted on 08/12/2012 3:33:05 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: roylene

Back in the 1990’s, I was wanting to get on with HP in Ft. Collins when I was still living in Indiana but never got in. I lay a lot of blame on Carly Fiorina and also Mark Hurd. IMHO, how long before Mark Hurd destroys Oracle and also bought out Sun Microsystems.

I have a friend working for EDS in California and Mark Hurd did a number on them when they were bought out like pay cuts but they sure didn’t relax the rules like dress codes and inflexible hours.

I had a different friend work for HP during the Carly debacle and the atmosphere was so bad that you had to be careful what you said or you were called to task for daring to criticize or question the executive “leadership”.


29 posted on 08/12/2012 3:33:38 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Hojczyk; nickcarraway; SmithL; NormsRevenge

But ... but ... this little confection is CEO of Yahoo!

30 posted on 08/12/2012 3:36:32 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Cicero
As I recall, Meg Whitman almost killed Hewlett Packard during her first stint there. So, now she’s supposed to rescue it?

You are perhaps thinking of Carly Fiorina who almost destroyed HP after almost destroying Lucent.

HP's Carly Fiorina era is finally over...good riddance (from Aug, 2011)

31 posted on 08/12/2012 3:49:58 PM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: 9YearLurker

I had five (5) HP products within arm’s reach on my desk. Then, I got the middle finger from HP’s customer service rep. Never again will the HP logo sit on my desk.


32 posted on 08/12/2012 3:57:30 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: Hojczyk

They should have kept the awesome TouchPad tablet, released the 7” version they already had, and promoted WebOS to the 4 million devices they fire-sale sold last year.


33 posted on 08/12/2012 3:59:31 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Incorrigible

Indeed Noumenon! “My dinner with IBM” was a prescient Dvorak column in the early 90’s.

I was always more of a Robert X. Cringely fan.
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Name from the past...God, is Cringely still alive?


34 posted on 08/12/2012 3:59:31 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: 9YearLurker

I had five (5) HP products within arm’s reach on my desk. Then, I got the middle finger from HP’s customer service rep. Never again will the HP logo sit on my desk.


35 posted on 08/12/2012 4:01:25 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: DoughtyOne

I will NEVER buy another HP product. All the HP laptops I owned ran super hot and had loads of problems and then they blamed Microsoft and Microsoft blamed them when the updates and the HP audio couldn’t work together and no one in the Philippines gave a flying flip and said they could fix it remotely or would immediately refund my money which they couldn’t fix it remotely and they didn’t refund my money immediately. I did get my money just not immediately.

Nope, I need a laptop that will last 10 years, so I researched the issue and chose lenovo


36 posted on 08/12/2012 4:02:55 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Cicero

I don’t think Meg was ever at HP before. You’re thinking of Carly Fiorina.


37 posted on 08/12/2012 4:04:32 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: unixfox

“HP’s fix. replace the motherboard with ANOTHER faulty motherboard. Un-frigginbelievable.

They paid out the ass on that one. And they should have.”

*

You know the history, bud. After that, I never had one HP product nor will ever buy one.


38 posted on 08/12/2012 4:19:11 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Chickensoup

My understanding is that the Cringely column in InfoWorld was a composite of the editors.

The book “Accidental Empires” by Cringely is a must read for an accurate view of the valley and Microsoft back in the day.

Now, time for me to boot up my 80286 based PS/2! :-)


39 posted on 08/12/2012 4:20:00 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Hojczyk

Silicon Valley succumbed to the siren of free government money.

But at least we have Facebook.


40 posted on 08/12/2012 5:04:07 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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