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Posted on 08/11/2012 5:32:45 AM PDT by beebuster2000
So what about freepers? we like paul ryan? i like what he says, i just wonder if all Romney has done is given a bigger target to he whose name may not be spoken.
Not sure.
However Romney is now the nominee, for all intents and purposes.
Period.
It’s Romney and Ryan, or four more years of Obama.
America cannot stand four more years of Obama. We’re already broke.
We’ll be ruined.
Get over whatever it is, which has you in such a state. If you want to start campaigning against Romney (I might be with you, will see first) then so so AFTER we defeat Obama.
That is less than 100 days from today.
Focus please.
Now just how do you expect to do that with Romney?
Project much?
You've already said the second part. You're avoiding.
OK, my primary has all people who are eligible. Hundreds of millions of people. Which one or two are you going to vote for?
Unfortunately, for your position, it is a zero sum game. Either Romney will win and Obama will lose or the opposite of that. There are no other possible outcomes.
Vote for who you like but if it is not Romney then it is a plus for Obama.
Period.
The system isn't set up like your little rinky dink school board deal where they just shovel the bucks out in the street
muawiyah, you could be Bob Beckel's best friend forever! You share a sneering, condescending style with him. I'll bet you're all puffed up and dress like it's still the 1970s like he does too. LOL
You might not think it's a serious problem with you, but Mohammad was driven to death threats and said 'Kill the hypocrites" ~ your friendly neighborhood baby killing liberal friends also would like to 'kill' those of whom they suspect hypocrisy but everybody else in this country is armed to the teeth so don't any of you guys get any ideas you can get away with it.
I had money taken from my AFTER TAX INCOME to pay for my pension. That came out of my pocket, not yours. In fact, the type of objection you're making suggests you regularly entered mail without paying postage. It's not too late to 'fess up you know.
But USPS didn't run on federal tax dollars ~ they operated on the fees charged for mail services. My salary, and therefore my pension, arose out of that conjunction of need and service. That you still think you own postal employees is a topic for another time ~ in the meantime read the 13th Amendment over a few times ~ you lost that war.
Some of you deserve being sneered at.
The numbers are showing the election is probably close enough to do that.
It has been said on this site. Also, people who plan on voting for Romney have been called Satanist.
i suppose so ~ but in the context of a discussion where we have some claiming it’s unChristian to criticize Romney, it’s fair to make such a retort.
Vote for who you like but if it is not Romney then it is a plus for Obama.
Period.
Exactly. Why can't some people see that? They act like it's still Primary season! Maybe we should have some little rubber bracelets made up that are engraved with WWSD (What Would Sarah Do) and they can wear them while they watch the GOP convention. The "changing horses in midstream" scenario is no longer possible because we're well beyond the midstream point.
Sorry, you can fantasy world all you like. The reality is that the avergae joe cares more about getting a job. Not sending the military to shut down abortion clinics which is still legal to be open...
point of order ~ Democrats who were loyal? Lurch was loyal? Gore was loyal? His old man ran the supplemental retirement fund for the KGB.
I hope the USPS goes away.. UPS or Fed Ex can do a better job then the USPS.
“But USPS didn’t run on federal tax dollars ~ they operated on the fees charged for mail services. My salary, and therefore my pension, arose out of that conjunction of need and service.”
Sorry if I’m missing something in your post about the USPS “not running on Federal $s” and your “salary & pension arose out of fees charged for mail services”, but....
“Postal Service on tap for $11B break in 2012 budget
By Ed O’Keefe
President Obama’s proposed 2012 budget doesn’t say anything about raising stamp prices, ending Saturday mail deliveries or closing post offices, but it does attempt to remedy the perilous financial condition of the U.S. Postal Service by recommending about $11 billion in relief.
With mail volume and revenues plummeting, the Postal Service is on course to lose about $7 billion in the fiscal year that ends in September. The losses are due in part to hefty personnel costs not borne by other federal agencies. One is a requirement, imposed by a 2006 law, that it set aside money each year to cover the costs of future health insurance benefits for its retired workers.”
>snip
“The Postal Service also pays into the federal retirement fund to pay the future annuity costs for its retirees. Estimates by the Office of Personnel Management suggest USPS has overpaid the fund by about $6.9 billion. Obama’s budget would refund that amount over 30 years, beginning with a $550 million payment in fiscal 2012.”
more here:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2011/02/postal_service_on_tap_for_11_b.html
ROFL
What a nice man you are, mooey.
It’s interesting how the inane “jobs, jobs, jobs” talking point is 100% interchangeable between the Republican and the Democrat parties.
USPS is actually overpaid more like $79 billion. The Obama budget was rejected by the Senate and House. None of that happened.
Stupid is as stupid does! ... Forest Gump
Exactly!
I could be nicer but you don’t deserve it. And say, get off my lawn!
I actually have a practical plan to make that possible. Stay tuned.
When you say stupid things like this it just reinforces the fact that are you acting like a stubborn crybaby determined to go forward with a whiny temper tantrum.
Paul Ryan is a quality hire - exceptionally competent and dynamic. This bodes well for governance.
One of Romney’s trademarks at Bain was in recruiting and cultivating talent. Two of our greatest Presidents - Ronald Reagan and George Washington - were exceptional in their ability to pick quality people for top jobs, and give them the authority and support to excel.
On the stage after Ryan’s announcement, I got the impression of Romney as a senior executive with that kind of emotional security and maturity - to manage for the long term good of the organization.
He seemed confident in Ryan, and content to let him take some limelight - almost like a proud parent.
This also shows that he is not averse to recruiting TEA Party favorites and principled conservatives for top jobs.
The potential exists for a “Dream Team” administration.
Personnel is policy, as they say in D.C.
I am so stoked!
“As it is the GOP-e made an irremediable error for which they and their running dog lackeys will continue to pay for decades!”
Unfortunately, purists in this group want all of the country to pay for decades. I don’t know — tear it down to build it up thinking? Gotta hit rock bottom with obama before building back up? I don’t understand the logic of sitting out the election and possibly letting that Marxist get a second term other than the “let the whole thing burn down” thinking.
This is just about 12 times you've violated coalition rules over the last 80 years.
I say enough is enough!
You've done it again, and this guy is the one candidate with a probability of actually losing to Obama, the worst President in the last two centuries!
I was for Newt and absolutely hate Romney. I vowed I would not vote for Romney, but Obama has forced my hand.
If we don’t vote Romney, we will have 4 more years of Holders brand of justice and Obamas executive orders, both of which cannot be overcome by a Republican majority in both houses.
Vote for America. It’s like doing something outside your comfort zone to save a loved one. Or would you let your most cherished love one perish because of your “standards”?
We'll be revisiting all of this the day after the election.
“Ryan is going to be hard to replace as head of the House budget committee. They better find another fiscal hawk.”
I know; but I imagine the calculation in that regard was that as far as “safe” seats to put up for election, there was more room for risk in the House than in the Senate (numbers count).
Like you, I also hope Ryan’s type of resolve on fiscal sanity has a number of “back ups” in the House ready to step up and fill the gap he will leave.
I think Ryan is the better choice. Some Freepers think Rubio would lure some Hispanic voters away from the Dem camp, but I think that would work about as well as an Alan West candidacy luring Dem black voters, namely not very well at all.
A Rubio candidacy would mainly attract Hispanic voters by an implicit promise of amnesty, or other favorable treatment of Hispanics, and would turn off the conservative base more than it would help with Hispanics.
Yes...Good points
Rubio also is Cuban...and that does not sell at all in the Mexican-Amer and Puerto Rican communities...not at all.
Rubio supporters like him because they support Illegal Alien Amnesty, plain and simple
Ryan was a good pick
“In the end nobody votes for vice president,” said Gov. Chris Christie. “No matter who Governor Romney picks they’re not voting for him.”
By the same token, no one will vote for Obama because of Vice President Joe Biden, he said.
“No one’s saying ‘I’m not sure about this Obama guy but, boy, I love Biden,’” Christie cracked.
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While Christie may secretly be disappointed he wasn’t picked...he may be spot on with this quip.
I believe it is pretty obvious that Obama is different from the democrat presidents of the past. Clinton was/is a sleaze bag, Carter was/is an idiot, Johnson was lying progressive, Kennedy was a whore mongerer, Truman a progressive, Roosevelt a progressive liar, and Wilson was a racist among other things. None of these presidents, however, had an active agenda to destroy the United States like Obama has. They were all misguided, hell they were/are democrats,but none of them were intentionally out to destroy this nation. Obama is an entirely new breed of cat, and he ain’t no pussy cat. His punk-ass needs to be out of office asap. If you would rather crap on the campfire then go ahead, but you are not helping the situation.
You’re the guy running the loser. Don’t be so highminded and selfrighteous about that.
Yup, I am good to go with Ryan. I was deathly afraid he would select Pawlenty, or worse, Portman. The team is now in place. Let’s get behind them. Bozo must go!
Group-think makes me sick!
Group-think makes me sick!
Being allowed to keep more of my income is a government subsidy? No wonder you love Obama so much; you sound just like him.
The Cuban-American community is primarily composed of the middle class which fled Cuba rather than live under socialism. Yes, you are correct that they are not a natural Dem constituency.
No, I didn't pick a loser. Nor did most people here. I was for Perry and then Newt. Almost no one on FR wanted Romney. Yet he won. We didn't get our way. Now you can refuse to vote for the nominee or suck it up and vote for him as the only candidate that has any chance of beating Obama. Some dislike Willard so much that they just won't vote for him. I get that. Many felt the same about McCain, even with Palin on the ticket. There is some of that every election cycle. Some people will always sit out or waste their votes on 3rd party candidates.
But saying things like you won't vote for Romney even if Jesus Christ is on the ticket makes you sound like nothing but a butthurt crybaby who didn't get his way rather than a rational, logical person.
Give it a rest alright.
You already killed one Romney thread.
Words are just words, it is DEEDS that count. Politicians lie all the time, they say what they think people want to hear. Messages are tailored to each audience. Liberal went to progressive i.e. for an example. Right has become wrong, and wrong has become right.
So quit attacking MY Christian beliefs because you are a rombeybot.
Your comment is pointless. My budget would move more quickly toward a Constitutional budget than even Rand Paul’s. That budget wouldn’t be passed; Paul’s won’t be passed; and Ryan’s will not be passed and implemented over 20 years even if it were to pass.
You just don’t want to hear it ~ you stuck us with a loser. There’s nothing to celebrate.
There’s a double entendre in there you’ve missed completely.
Give it a rest.
Save up your hostility for after November 7th, when you can start rooting for another alternative.
Right now you got Obama, and Romney with his brand new conservative, young, bright VP.
Pick one.
Ryan is ok, but nothing could make me vote for his socialist running mate.
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