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Young in G.O.P. Erase the Lines on Social Issues
The New York Times ^ | August 8, 2012 | Susan Saulny

Posted on 08/10/2012 2:18:06 PM PDT by EveningStar

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Matt Hoagland, the county leader of a group of young North Carolina Republicans, is busy trying to ramp up enthusiasm for Mitt Romney at the grass-roots level. So there are a few things he avoids mentioning to prospective young voters he wants to woo, including the hot-button topics like abortion and same-sex marriage, which have dominated campaigns past.

“Social issues are far down the priorities list, and I think that’s the trend,” Mr. Hoagland, 27, said. “That’s where it needs to go if the Republican Party is going to be successful.” ...

Some young conservatives ... continue to oppose abortion and same-sex marriage but say they are playing down their personal views because they have made the calculation that such issues will not be a factor in this year’s races...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; gop; homosexualagenda; socialconservatives; socialissues; youth
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To: MortMan

Just Law-—can never promote evil-—it makes it Unjust Law (unequal law) because Virtue is necessary for Justice-—which is the first Virtue.

Laws which don’t prevent killing—and abortions can be proven to kill—are Evil-—hence, they are Unjust Law-—unconstitutional because they contradict with the Natural Rights FROM GOD for ALL HUMAN BEING!-— that are stated in the Constitution.

Sodomy is a Vice and so “sexual orientations” which are contrary to the Laws of Nature-—the very words in our Founding Documents——can never be made into a “Right”-—because our Natural Rights come from GOD—ONLY-—not from Barney Frank or Satan. THAT is the FUNDAMENTAL MEANING of our Founding Documents

AND we need to get back to The Constitution as being the SUPREME LAW of the LAND ===WHICH IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!

The Republicans HAVE to fight for the Supreme Law of the Land-—it is the most logical—REASONED—political document ever written beside the Federalist Papers-—which only point to the REAL THINKING of the FOUNDERS—which can’t be made CLEARER!!!

It is simple:

Sodomy is evil so sexual orientation can NEVER be protected by law—(special rights for an evil behavior).....

Abortion is killing and can’t be sanctioned.

Kids CAN and WILL understand the logic if it is given to them....but Marxists hide the TRUTH and keep the Truth hidden. SO ARE THE REPUBLICANS!!!!


41 posted on 08/10/2012 3:25:26 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I don’t see the under 30’s as ambivalent about ‘gay marriage.’ I see them rather strongly supporting the concept. Especially if they’ve been public schooled.


42 posted on 08/10/2012 3:33:16 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: cripplecreek; RIghtwardHo; Starstruck; All
The GOP has zero intent to win the white house.

That's makes no sense. Why would the GOP want Obama to win?

43 posted on 08/10/2012 3:33:34 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“I must say I am stunned to see the majority of people under age 30 being so totally ambivalent on the issue of gay marriage.”

The left has been conducting a cultural campaign in the popular media... TV, Music, Movies, etc... for decades now. This was bound to have a cumulative effect. The right hoped that things like church attendance would shield their kids, but the church is losing this fight right now. People in general, and kids in particular, are susceptible to peer pressure. If you see “religion = ‘hate’ “ on TV screens, then eventually it’s going to have an effect.


44 posted on 08/10/2012 3:33:48 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: EveningStar
This is correct stragety staying off the social issue TRAP and focusing on this President's record and the economy. Anything else will only get the opposition fired up on social issues. The GOP has allowed the DNC to look rather pathetic on social issues and thus they are losing enthusiasm.

Not that social issues are not important as they are the most important thing next to taking back the presidency. Mitt can do the social issue boggy once in office.

45 posted on 08/10/2012 3:34:10 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: bigdaddy45

Reagan was the social warrior that more than any other individual in politics, led voters to decide which issue of good and evil that they were on.

You are trying to sell bull waste, Reagan was the greatest social warrior of all presidents.

Do you really think that the millions of Americans, including democrats who flocked to his social message were just imagining things? Reagan made millions of lifelong democrat voters realize that the GOP was the home of traditional values and of the faithful, Reagan drew the lines that endure today.


46 posted on 08/10/2012 3:36:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: EveningStar

What’s the point of winning when you still have power on the sidelines where you can accuse as the disaster continues. The majority of the GOP voters are firmly on the plantation and aren’t going anywhere. Besides, its not like Romney has what it takes to do any heavy lifting anyway.


47 posted on 08/10/2012 3:41:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: jwalsh07

Well at least I know the people of North Carolina did more to stop gay marriage than Mittens did. As for it ‘redounding’ in his favor — I don’t think so. If everyone knew what Mitt did to bring about gay marriage in Massachusetts, it would not reflect favorably on Romney at all, except in the homosexual community. As much as he wishes it were different, I doubt that particular 1% of the population will ever help him.


48 posted on 08/10/2012 3:42:26 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: bigdaddy45
Reagan really wasn’t much of a social warrior. He was about strong defense, defeat of Communism, lower taxes and smaller government. He was pro-life, but it wasn’t one of the core tenants of his Presidency by any means.

Guess you never heard of the War on Drugs and the war on pornography then.

49 posted on 08/10/2012 3:45:29 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Matt Hoagland is making a personal report on his own lack of values.

Wouldn't put it past him to be campaigning just to meet girls.

50 posted on 08/10/2012 3:46:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: EveningStar
What's amazing to me about these "fiscal issues only" types is how utterly tone deaf they are to what is actually going on around them, rather than what "exists" within the insular bubble in which they confine themselves. We just witnessed a massive outpouring of support and interest in opposing gay marriage at a grassroots level with CFA appreciation day, and we see the current floundering of the Romney campaign as it confines itself specifically to this fiscal only message. Yet, these folks can't seem to put 2 and 2 together.

THIS, as much as anything else, is going to destroy the GOP.

51 posted on 08/10/2012 3:49:41 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Listen, it's never a THIRD PARTY, it's a NEW PARTY.

It's quite feasible to simply purge the GOP-e from the existing Republican party and move out smartly. We know who they are ~ just ban them from leadership positions.

52 posted on 08/10/2012 3:51:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: EveningStar

we don’t lie about the social issues. They are just a part of being conservative.

We win the election and then drag the rest up to our level on these issues.


53 posted on 08/10/2012 3:53:10 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: EveningStar
Most young people haven't been out of liberal indoctrination centers very long ( schools, colleges etc) so, what can you expect?

If liberal children were educated ONLY by conservatives there wouldn't be many liberal young people either. Besides, they don't vote. Lots of us were liberals when we were young - then we grew up... and now were fine... what's to worry about?(Have you looked at the population demographics? The country's getting older and wiser...

54 posted on 08/10/2012 3:53:32 PM PDT by GOPJ (Freeper Neveronmywatch's convinced - you put a compass in the hands of a liberal it'll point south.)
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To: EveningStar

Fiscal policy is important but I consider it a very bad sign that young GOPers have no sense of the importance of social conservatism. Their schooling post-1990, full of political correctness and rainbow pride propaganda, is surely at the crux of this.


55 posted on 08/10/2012 3:54:10 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: ansel12
They're getting ready to pour the gold into the mold for the Golden Calf.

The old values are gone already.

Only one way to bring 'em back, too ~ now where's that guy Onan when he's really needed as a good example?

56 posted on 08/10/2012 3:54:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
It's quite feasible to simply purge the GOP-e from the existing Republican party and move out smartly. We know who they are ~ just ban them from leadership positions.

I'm not sure how feasible that really is. I mean, how do you "ban from leadership" the people who already make up the leadership, and who therefore get to make the rules that will end up stiffling any attempt at deposing them?

57 posted on 08/10/2012 3:55:34 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Waryone

Lefty stupidity and righty stupidity have one thing in common. Can you figure out what that is?


58 posted on 08/10/2012 3:56:58 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I must say I am stunned to see the majority of people under age 30 being so totally ambivalent on the issue of gay marriage.

^^^^
I am saddened, but I am not stunned about this situation. The progressives have been working the younger generation for a long time through movies and television and through the education system. My Gen-X children have been taken in by this moral relativism in the area of homosexuality.


59 posted on 08/10/2012 4:05:10 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
There are ways.

When your party absorbs enough Catholic voters you also acquire some of their cultural affiliates from Sicily and Reggio di Calabria.

They make fine Republicans ~ instinctively Capitalist to boot!

They have ways.

60 posted on 08/10/2012 4:16:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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