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Young in G.O.P. Erase the Lines on Social Issues
The New York Times ^ | August 8, 2012 | Susan Saulny

Posted on 08/10/2012 2:18:06 PM PDT by EveningStar

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Matt Hoagland, the county leader of a group of young North Carolina Republicans, is busy trying to ramp up enthusiasm for Mitt Romney at the grass-roots level. So there are a few things he avoids mentioning to prospective young voters he wants to woo, including the hot-button topics like abortion and same-sex marriage, which have dominated campaigns past.

“Social issues are far down the priorities list, and I think that’s the trend,” Mr. Hoagland, 27, said. “That’s where it needs to go if the Republican Party is going to be successful.” ...

Some young conservatives ... continue to oppose abortion and same-sex marriage but say they are playing down their personal views because they have made the calculation that such issues will not be a factor in this year’s races...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; gop; homosexualagenda; socialconservatives; socialissues; youth
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To: Sola Veritas

“I realized I didn’t know what I would do in that situation, so I couldn’t judge someone else’s choices [about abortion].”

From the mouth of a babe.

Does this dimwit judge anybody’s choices? On anything? What kind of moral and religious instruction did she have growing up?


21 posted on 08/10/2012 2:42:08 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: central_va

I remember my last “fiscal con/social mod” congressman. (Joe Schwarz) He’s dedicated his life to fighting the extremist conservatives who refuse to fund a woman’s “Right to choose”.


22 posted on 08/10/2012 2:44:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: heye2monn

Running for President (and losing) as a GOPer is a sure way to get a job at Fox News™


23 posted on 08/10/2012 2:44:34 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bigdaddy45

You’re generally right about Reagan. He spoke and wrote eloquently about pro-life issues, which hopefully had some impact. But he didn’t do a whole lot otherwise. His wife was strongly pro-baby killer. Of course, she’s now for killing embryos, too.


24 posted on 08/10/2012 2:45:31 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: EveningStar

“Social issues are far down the priorities list, and I think that’s the trend,” Mr. Hoagland, 27, said. “That’s where it needs to go if the Republican Party is going to be successful.” ...

Unfortunately, if things like gay marriage persist, then the nation won’t be successful, and then Republican party becomes irrelevant.


25 posted on 08/10/2012 2:46:20 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: cripplecreek

stabbing your inner self in the back sounds difficult. But your political point is quite correct :-)


26 posted on 08/10/2012 2:48:16 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: cripplecreek
The GOP has zero intent to win the white house.

Does Romney? And if not why?

27 posted on 08/10/2012 2:50:28 PM PDT by Starstruck (Only the wealthy and the poor can afford socialism)
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To: EveningStar

Somebody needs to teach these young punks that if you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything.

We as conservatives shouldn’t hide what we stand for and if they don’t stand for what the party does they are nothing more than RINO libs who are playing at being conservatives.

In fact, they aren’t even trying to be conservatives. They are trying to be liberals running under the name Republican.

No thanks. There are enough of those in the Libertarian party. We also have enough RINOs of our own. We don’t need to water down conservative principles to appeal to those who don’t share our beliefs.


28 posted on 08/10/2012 2:54:26 PM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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To: Sola Veritas
They are only “fiscally conservative” when it is someone else getting cut off the government feed.

I agree. They're the kind of "fiscal conservatives" who riot when state universities raise the tuition a few dollars. At the philosophical level, they're no different from welfare drones: they want their free choice of behaviors, unconstrained even by disapproval, and they want someone else to pay for the outcomes.

29 posted on 08/10/2012 2:56:10 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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To: Sola Veritas
They have been poisoned by incessant years of shows like “Glee” where homosexuality is made to look OK...as is premarital sex. Hollywood has trully corrupted our youth.

Sure. But they had homosexual members in their Young Republican group and didn't know how to deal with them. Tough situation for some people.

30 posted on 08/10/2012 2:57:31 PM PDT by x
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To: cripplecreek

Well - women generally DO have the right to choose to keep their knees together.


31 posted on 08/10/2012 2:58:28 PM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: EveningStar

I think there is an argument that could be persuasive on the social front. Everybody talks about rights. Why isn’t the GOP talking about the fact that making people PAY for others’ so-called ‘rights’ is a deprivation of the payer’s own rights?

Under current law (bad law, but...), abortion is legal. But forcing someone who is morally and/or religiously opposed to pay for some other woman’s “choice” is deprivation of rights, pure and simple.

JMO.


32 posted on 08/10/2012 3:05:32 PM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: EveningStar

This guys view is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Founding Fathers’ view. The evil Republican Party Heads-—are as evil as Zero and are trying to destroy the VERY PRINCIPLES of America.

VIRTUE is the most important element in a free Republic. You can not have freedom if there is no public VIRTUE!!!!! That was stated since PLATO-—and repeated by all WISE philosophers, including our Founding Fathers!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which means the culture HAS TO PROMOTE public VIRTUE. That is what JUSTICE is—a Virtue-—that means VICE-—like killing babies-—promoting Sodomy-—A VICE-—and UNJUST—which is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Since the Cultural Marxists have control of MSM and the schools they are corrupting the youth (DESTROYING VIRTUE) with lies and seductions into Satanic lives of drug and sex-—which will destroy all cohesive societies— and the possibility of Virtue.

Cultural Marxists designed Sex Ed in schools to destroy Virtue. They knew the secret of successful Republics-—like all WISE people.


33 posted on 08/10/2012 3:15:02 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: EveningStar

We’ll see how that works out after the remainder of the default process. Social pathologies are supported by big government and other waste.


34 posted on 08/10/2012 3:15:28 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: EveningStar
“Social issues are far down the priorities list, and I think that’s the trend,” Mr. Hoagland, 27

Funny, many polls have shown the youngest generation of voters to be the most pro-life.

This is merely more propaganda from the media and Republican establishment.

Romney can lose the election and Republican party can collapse before it gets away with abandoning social issues.

35 posted on 08/10/2012 3:16:56 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Who taught these punks such nonsense?

I'm sure they are getting that message from the Republican Presidential nominee.

36 posted on 08/10/2012 3:19:06 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Sola Veritas

I do agree with you - I neglected to predicate my point with the assumption morals were instilled at home - (not like today) - rather than mandated by law.

Free markets as we know will not function without that crucial (and missing) component.


37 posted on 08/10/2012 3:20:44 PM PDT by dk88 (Occupy=Liberalism: No solutions, no responsibility and demanding free stuff from someone else)
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To: EveningStar

North Carolina just recently overwhelmingly voted down same sex marriage. A lot of those votes were from Christians who happen to be black. To say that is not an issue is simply the ignorance of youth. Among voters in NC it is indeed an issue and one that redounds in Romneys favor.


38 posted on 08/10/2012 3:20:44 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I must say I am stunned to see the majority of people under age 30 being so totally ambivalent on the issue of gay marriage.

The last Survey USA Poll out of Minnesota shows those 18-34 in favor of a marriage amendment 50-45%.

I'm not so sure I believe everything the media wants us to believe on the issue.

39 posted on 08/10/2012 3:21:24 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Kazan
Funny, many polls have shown the youngest generation of voters to be the most pro-life.

As our understanding about human development becomes deeper, we are learning that conception produces more than just disposable cells. Young people seem to be more aware of these advances in our science and understanding. Liberal views of pregnancy are sinking in their own quicksand.

The more we learn of these things, the closer we come to understanding and appreciating God.

40 posted on 08/10/2012 3:22:44 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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