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Talking about Mormonism would help Mitt Romney
Published in Deseret News (originated Washington Post) ^ | Aug. 8, 2012 | Michael Gerson

Posted on 08/09/2012 5:40:19 PM PDT by Colofornian

WASHINGTON — Concerning Mormons and Republicans, history offers a large helping of irony. In 1843, an Army officer named John C. Fremont led a geographical expedition of 39 men more than 1,700 miles to the shores of the Great Salt Lake. His report on the journey inspired hounded Mormons to mount their wagons and resettle in the Great Basin.

Thirteen years later in Philadelphia, Fremont became the first presidential nominee of the Republican Party, which adopted a platform opposing the "twin relics of barbarism — Polygamy, and Slavery." The slogan, and the anti-Mormon sentiment behind it, caught on. A Republican rally in Indianapolis, reportedly attended by 60,000 people, included an ox-drawn parade wagon depicting Brigham Young along with six wives dressed in hoop skirts, each with a little Brigham in her arms.

...In the typology of sociologists Robert Putnam and David Campbell, Mormons remain a rejected "out-group," unlike accepted "in-groups" such as Catholics and Jews. Large majorities of Americans perceive Mormonism as "very different" from their own religious beliefs.

But in this case, the counsel of religious reticence is wrong. Romney should not be afraid to highlight his faith.

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Questions remain about the role of Mormonism in depressing evangelical political enthusiasm. Some religious conservatives are concerned that a Romney presidency would provide theological legitimacy for a rival, proselytizing faith. But it is unclear how silence from Romney on religion would mitigate this fear. And a portion of the evangelical enthusiasm gap is explainable for another reason entirely: the suspicions of social conservatives about the authenticity of Romney's social conservatism.

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This does not mean Romney should quote from the Book of Jarom in his convention speech...

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


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To: OldEarlGray

Can you explain in plain English what you’re trying to say?

How it is relevant to Christians not hating others?

Amen...


151 posted on 08/10/2012 4:09:16 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: presently no screen name

Piss on yourself - I’m voting for Ron Paul if he gets it - - I was making a point about Romney being the MSM front guy — and you took somewhere else...but you the type that knows best...


152 posted on 08/10/2012 4:18:44 PM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Elsie

Look - I don’t like Romney - never have — my support is going to Ron Paul...where the hell do you people come from???

Are you posting this stuff for others — because I really don’t care about Romney - don’t care for him or anything he’s done — he’s not right for the US...are you an Obama supporter trying to smudge a candidate that you think is going to win the GOP nomination...if not - great...I don’t want Romney as the GOP nominee...I hope he fails...geez......


153 posted on 08/10/2012 4:21:52 PM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

What is the Mormon Doctrine of Blood Atonement -

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=1&cp=22&gs_id=7&xhr=t&q=mormon+blood+atonement

- and how is murdering someone for their “salvation” relevant to Christians loving others?


154 posted on 08/10/2012 4:35:31 PM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: BCW
Piss on yourself

Yeah, you know alot - it shows potty mouth.

155 posted on 08/10/2012 4:52:08 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SZonian

No need to spam back a screenfull of other peoples’ posts to me. Regarding my posts, I’m entirely comfortable with people viewing my history and am always ready to apologize when I lose my temper. I scrolled through your last few posts and noticed that you indulge in mean-spirited comments and name-calling, would you apologize if called on it?

Aside from that, sincere thank you for your service and congratulations to your son... he sounds like a son to be proud of.


156 posted on 08/10/2012 5:11:24 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: Tamzee

You thanked many of the people who made those comments as “voices of sanity”.

Then, have the temerity to say I indulge in “mean spirited” comments for calling AB0 posters hypocrites who go around lamenting the name calling while up to their necks in it?

I have been doing nothing other than trying to get the discourse down to a level where it’s at a minimum “civil”. To get many, who I believed were good FReepers, to stop and think about the irreparable harm they are doing to FR and the friendships/relationships that were developed here.

IMO, going around and bullying those who aren’t AB0 voters with such vile language should be grounds for a zot. But I guess the FReepathon is more important than maintaining decorum.

Nothing good comes from engaging in the type of discourse I used as an example. All it does it rip apart FR at the seams, fractures alliances, forces FReepers to choose “sides” within FR. Real effective that.

Thanks, he is.


157 posted on 08/10/2012 5:29:32 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Colofornian

What the Compost is telling Mittster...is that whether he wants to or not he’s gonna be talking about Mormonism...alot ....right about 3 weeks before the election.

So he better be prepared to make ‘Bammy ...talk about Islam...and “one of the prettyest sounds on earth at sunset”- the Muslim call to prayer

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/flashback-barack-obama-says-muslim-call-to-prayer-%E2%80%9Cone-of-the-prettiest-sounds-on-earth-at-sunset-%E2%80%9D/

But Mittster won’t.. And he will lose the election.

Leave it to Romney to haul out the Country Club Rulebook and show up with the Clubhouse Lawyer ...to what Obama has planned as a gun, knife and broken bottle party.

Tom DeLay ...and Lee Atwater are the only Republicans I can recall who understood that politics, as practiced by the Democrat Party, was a bar-room brawl-—and they had the savvy to read the room right before-hand and knew who was going to do what and when.

Buy a clue Mitt....’bammy doesn’t read the Clubhouse Rules


158 posted on 08/10/2012 5:35:34 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Elsie

159 posted on 08/10/2012 6:06:50 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: roylene
"So you are basing your view of Mormonism on a couple of people who are nice."

Actually, not. My closest friend (for 45 years) was once a Mormon. Therefore, I know a number of Mormons. There have been many responses from just this site from people who have been not as nice.

160 posted on 08/10/2012 6:34:58 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: OldEarlGray

Dude, you should know that I think the Mormon religion is quite nutty, but manageable compared to the alternative.

You apparently have the choice between a Mormon and a Muzziger named Bork Obunga and you are essentially telling me you prefer the Muzziger?

Note that the Mormon LDS currently does NOT ascribe to “Blood of Atonement” policies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement

Finally, your argument: “how is murdering someone for their “salvation” relevant to Christians loving others?” is a non-sequitir.

Even if, it were true that Mormans were occasionally murdering others for their salvation (and you cannot cite examples in recent history to indicate so), that still doesn’t give you license as a Christian to HATE. Understood?

You might want evaluate why you, as a God-loving Christian have a compulsion to HATE these people.

And I ask, if you were to HATE anyone, why are you NOT choosing to HATE such an evil person as Bork Obunga and his gang of socialist/Muslim thugs?

I don’t see Mormons bombing WTC’s and doing rampant suicide bombings like the Muzzies do. Doesn’t that concern you at all?

Open your eyes. Or perhaps you are a trolling Muzzie/Axelrod stooge?


161 posted on 08/10/2012 7:00:38 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: Notary Sojac
If you think he’s wack, just wait ‘till Elsie shows up on this thread.

Hi there boys and girls!

What do you want to know about MORMONism that these insulting hacks keep trying to shut down?

Wanna be a GOD?


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


162 posted on 08/10/2012 7:11:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Notary Sojac
So; boys and girls!

Is being a GOD a little bit more work than you want to sign on for?

I can't help you GIRLS; but if you BOYS would like 10; that's right TEN!! VIRGINS then MORMONism is the place for YOU!

(Sorry MUSLIM dudes - you gotta DIE first to get yer 72!)


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.
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58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.


 

58 Now, as touching the law of the apriesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto.

59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was aAaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that bsent me, and I have endowed him with the ckeys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit dsin, and I will justify him.

60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God.

61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.

62 And if he have aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.

63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to amultiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be bglorified.

64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.

65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take aHagar to wife.

66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen.


163 posted on 08/10/2012 7:16:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

[Note that the Mormon LDS currently does NOT ascribe to “Blood of Atonement” policies:]

There’s much of Mormon doctrine that the latter-day ladder climbers would like to unexist.

[ (and you cannot cite examples in recent history to indicate so),]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcOszCVeclw

I prefer whichever of the fraudsterdates will be more easily impeachable. Which do you think that will be?


164 posted on 08/10/2012 7:17:20 PM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: Notary Sojac
So; boys and girls!

Is being a GOD a little bit more work than you want to sign on for?

I can't help you GIRLS; but if you BOYS would like 10; that's right TEN!! VIRGINS then MORMONism is the place for YOU!

(Sorry MUSLIM dudes - you gotta DIE first to get yer 72!)


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.
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58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.


 

58 Now, as touching the law of the apriesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto.

59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was aAaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that bsent me, and I have endowed him with the ckeys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit dsin, and I will justify him.

60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God.

61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.

62 And if he have aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.

63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to amultiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be bglorified.

64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.

65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take aHagar to wife.

66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen.


165 posted on 08/10/2012 7:17:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mojitojoe
You are a bigot, you have obsessive compulsive disorder, you are filled with hate and rage.

You, you, you.

I'm in love with...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igBDKiYEelk

166 posted on 08/10/2012 7:20:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PA Engineer
I have never seen so much hate in my entire life.

Then I'd toss out my mirror if it kept doing that!

167 posted on 08/10/2012 7:22:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tamzee
They just pulled an entire 500 post thread?

Where were you when this was a favorite trick of the MORMONs who managed to get themselves zotted?

They'd post some fluffy MORMON kissy-kissy thread, and when (not if) the thread got out of their control (Translation: CHRISTIANS kept posting MORMON writings they did not want seen) then they'd have it pulled; since THEY were the ones who started it in the first place.

We got wise to this trick, and their threads would shrivel up and die after 10-20 posts.

Haven't seen much of it lately.


Why don't you MORMONs post some PRO-mormonISM threads?

I'm SURE you guys have a lot of uplifting and edifying words to say: to each other, anyway.

168 posted on 08/10/2012 7:27:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PA Engineer
May G*d have mercy on your soul. I will never.

AWWwww...

Is that any way for a wonderful Christian to react??


Matthew Chapter 5:44

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

169 posted on 08/10/2012 7:30:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PA Engineer
I don’t mind the insults.

I've noticed.

170 posted on 08/10/2012 7:31:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mojitojoe
I think that dude escaped from the nut house.

A lot of the FI group have...



171 posted on 08/10/2012 7:33:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: norwaypinesavage

I base my experience on Mormonism on my Mormon family.


172 posted on 08/10/2012 7:33:51 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: roylene
Sorry, providing information is not spam.

It is TOO!

Anything we don't like is SPAM© and we sure as HELL Hecky durn don't like what you post; even if it comes straight from the mouth of Joseph Smith!)
 
 

173 posted on 08/10/2012 7:37:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PA Engineer

I would agree. Mormonism’s hate towards Christianity is incredible. Oh, and the defenders of Mormonism are hate-filled as well towards anyone exposing Mormonism


174 posted on 08/10/2012 7:39:02 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: mojitojoe
FLOODING THE BOARD then, Posting the same large things over and over and over again so that any opposing views are buried.

HMMmm...



175 posted on 08/10/2012 7:39:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: roylene
Would you be willing to point out what you think is incorrect, or does it matter to you that the information is accurate, and it’s just annoying you.

No replies.

This is EXACTLY what I expected...

176 posted on 08/10/2012 7:41:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tamzee
I wish it was still up so that people could get a full history of members' activity and know what they are dealing with.

Easy enough.

Just have your cabal of correctness continue to chastise and be churlish and we, no doubt, will continue to post MORMON documents for the lurkers to read for themselves.

Elsie, the silly and tawdry one; gives you permission to serve first.

177 posted on 08/10/2012 7:44:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: roylene

I agree the words of Mormon leaders are hate filled towards Christians, thanks for pointing it out.


178 posted on 08/10/2012 7:45:02 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: Waryone
Oh heck; let's go back even further...


WASHINGTON'S INAUGURAL ADDRESS

OF 1789

A Transcription

							[April 30, 1789] 

Fellow Citizens of the Senate and the House of Representatives.

Among the vicissitudes incident to life, no event could have filled me with greater anxieties than that of which the notification was transmitted by your order, and received on the fourteenth day of the present month. On the one hand, I was summoned by my Country, whose voice I can never hear but with veneration and love, from a retreat which I had chosen with the fondest predilection, and, in my flattering hopes, with an immutable decision, as the asylum of my declining years: a retreat which was rendered every day more necessary as well as more dear to me, by the addition of habit to inclination, and of frequent interruptions in my health to the gradual waste committed on it by time. On the other hand, the magnitude and difficulty of the trust to which the voice of my Country called me, being sufficient to awaken in the wisest and most experienced of her citizens, a distrustful scrutiny into his qualifications, could not but overwhelm with dispondence, one, who, inheriting inferior endowments from nature and unpractised in the duties of civil administration, ought to be peculiarly conscious of his own deficiencies. In this conflict of emotions, all I dare aver, is, that it has been my faithful study to collect my duty from a just appreciation of eve ry circumstance, by which it might be affected. All I dare hope, is, that, if in executing this task I have been too much swayed by a grateful remembrance of former instances, or by an affectionate sensibility to this transcendent proof, of the confidence of my fellow-citizens; and have thence too little consulted my incapacity as well as disinclination for the weighty and untried cares before me; my error will be palliated by the motives which misled me, and its consequences be judged by my Country, with some share of the partiality in which they originated.

Such being the impressions under which I have, in obedience to the public summons, repaired to the present station; it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official Act, my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the Universe, who presides in the Councils of Nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect, that his benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the People of the United States, a Government instituted by themselves for these essential purposes: and may enable every instrument employed in its administration to execute with success, the functions allotted to his charge. In tendering this homage to the Great Author of every public and private good I assure myself that it expresses your sentiments not less than my own; nor those of my fellow-citizens at large, less than either. No People can be bound to acknowledge and adore the invisible hand, which conducts the Affairs of men more than the People of the United States. Every step, by which they have advanced to the character of an independent nation, seems to have been distinguished by some token of providential agency. And in the important revolution just accomplished in the system of their United Government, the tranquil deliberations and voluntary consent of so many distinct communities, from which the event has resulted, cannot be compared with the means by which most Governments have been established, without some return of pious gratitude along with an humble anticipation of the future blessings which the past seem to presage. These reflections, arising out of the present crisis, have forced themselves too strongly on my mind to be suppressed. You will join with me I trust in thinking, that there are none under the influence of which, the proceedings of a new and free Government can more auspiciously commence.

By the article establishing the Executive Department, it is made the duty of the President "to recommend to your consideration, such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient." The circumstances under which I now meet you, will acquit me from entering into that subject, farther than to refer to the Great Constitutional Charter under which you are assembled; and which, in defining your powers, designates the objects to which your attention is to be given. It will be more consistent with those circumstances, and far more congenial with the feelings which actuate me, to substitute, in place of a recommendation of particular measures, the tribute that is due to the talents, the rectitude, and the patriotism which adorn the characters selected to devise and adopt them. In these honorable qualifications, I behold the surest pledges, that as on one side, no local prejudices, or attachments; no seperate views, nor party animosities, will misdirect the comprehensive and equal eye which ought to watch over this great assemblage of communities and interests: so, on another, that the foundations of our National policy will be laid in the pure and immutable principles of private morality; and the pre-eminence of a free Government, be exemplified by all the attributes which can win the affections of its Citizens, and command the respect of the world.

I dwell on this prospect with every satisfaction which an ardent love for my Country can inspire: since there is no truth more thoroughly established, than that there exists in the oeconomy and course of nature, an indissoluble union between virtue and happiness, between duty and advantage, between the genuine maxims of an honest and magnanimous policy, and the solid rewards of public prosperity and felicity: Since we ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of Heaven, can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained: And since the preservation of the sacred fire of liberty, and the destiny of the Republican model of Government, are justly considered as deeply, perhaps as finally staked, on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people.

Besides the ordinary objects submitted to your care, it will remain with your judgment to decide, how far an exercise of the occasional power delegated by the Fifth article of the Constitution is rendered expedient at the present juncture by the nature of objections which have been urged against the System, or by the degree of inquietude which has given birth to them. Instead of undertaking particular recommendations on this subject, in which I could be guided by no lights derived from official opportunities, I shall again give way to my entire confidence in your discernment and pursuit of the public good: For I assure myself that whilst you carefully avoid every alteration which might endanger the benefits of an United and effective Government, or wh ich ought to await the future lessons of experience; a reverence for the characteristic rights of freemen, and a regard for the public harmony, will sufficiently influence your deliberations on the question how far the former can be more impregnably fortified, or the latter be safely and advantageously promoted.

To the preceeding observations I have one to add, which will be most properly addressed to the House of Representatives. It concerns myself, and will therefore be as brief as possible. When I was first honoured with a call into the Service of my Country, then on the eve of an arduous struggle for its liberties, the light in which I contemplated my duty required that I should renounce every pecuniary compensation. From this resolution I have in no instance departed. And being still under the impressions which produced it, I must decline as inapplicable to myself, any share in the personal emoluments, which may be indispensably included in a permanent provision for the Executive Department; and must accordingly pray that the pecuniary estimates for the Station in which I am placed, may, during my continuance in it, be limited to such actual expenditures as the public good may be thought to require.

Having thus imported to you my sentiments, as they have been awakened by the occasion which brings us together, I shall take my present leave; but not without resorting once more to the benign parent of the human race, in humble supplication that since he has been pleased to favour the American people, with opportunities for deliberating in perfect tranquility, and dispositions for deciding with unparellelled unanimity on a form of Government, for the security of their Union, and the advancement of their happiness; so his divine blessing may be equally conspicuous in the enlarged views, the temperate consultations, and the wise measures on which the success of this Government must depend.


Washington's distinctive signature


179 posted on 08/10/2012 7:45:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
Such hatred towards Mormons is not Christian.

AGP; you are new to me.

Have you seen the post at 131 before?

180 posted on 08/10/2012 7:48:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
These hateful Obama trolls need to learn when it is proper to hate (evil socialists) and when it is irrational to hate (Mormons who have different beliefs that don’t threaten you).

1. You seem to have a very different meaning of the word IRRATIONAL than most.

2. Pointing out HERESY is not hate; unless you a have a very different meaning of the word.

3. mormonISM is getting any 'hate' you perceive - not MORMONs.

181 posted on 08/10/2012 7:52:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Oh noes, all is lost. They have a picture of spam hot dogs.


182 posted on 08/10/2012 7:55:43 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Lucas McCain
You must be that bunny with a pancake on it’s head.

Yeah!

THAT rejoiner'll shut 'im up!

183 posted on 08/10/2012 7:58:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BCW
I’m highly conservative and it boggles my mind how the US has gotten itself into this state of failure...

Be boggled no more: it's called SIN!


So; the question is; "Can politics fix the problem of SIN?"

184 posted on 08/10/2012 8:01:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: manc
I don’t know much about mormons or their teachings, what I do know is that they helped to fight the homo agenda ...

AGAINST it or FOR it?

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52486958-78/mayne-gay-lds-ward.html.csp

185 posted on 08/10/2012 8:06:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla
See, I one pushes aside the swarms of those who scream 'haters' and really READS the material, one learns mormon doctrine and compares it to Christian doctrine - education.

HEY!

What a CONCEPT!!!


 
See some differences between GOD's Word and the Joseph Smith's 'translation'
 
 


Color coding explanation:
 
Added stuff... Changed stuff... Rearranged stuff... Removed stuff... 
 *(UNDERLINED stuff is the DISTRACTING reference on every tenth word or so that infuses LDS 'scripture' online.)

 
 
 
 

JOSEPH SMITH—MATTHEW
An extract from the translation of the Bible as revealed to Joseph Smith the Prophet in 1831: Matthew 23: 39 and chapter 24.
Jesus foretells the impending destruction of Jerusalem—He also discourses on the second coming of the Son of Man, and the destruction of the wicked.
1 aFor I say unto you, that ye shall not see me henceforth and know that I am he of whom it is written by the prophets, until ye shall say: Blessed is he who bcometh in the name of the Lord, in the clouds of heaven, and all the holy angels with him. Then understood his disciples that he should come again on the earth, after that he was glorified and ccrowned on the right hand of God.
2 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple; and his disciples came to him, for to ahear him, saying: Master, show us concerning the buildings of the temple, as thou hast said—They shall be thrown down, and left unto you desolate.
3 And Jesus said unto them: See ye not all these things, and do ye not understand them? Verily I say unto you, there shall not be left here, upon this temple, one astone upon another that shall not be thrown down.
4 And Jesus left them, and went upon the Mount of Olives. And as he sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying: Tell us when shall these things be which thou hast said concerning the destruction of the temple, and the Jews; and what is the asign of thy bcoming, and of the cend of the world, or the destruction of the dwicked, which is the end of the world?
5 And Jesus answered, and said unto them: Take heed that no man deceive you;
6 For many shall come in my name, saying—I am aChrist—and shall deceive many;
7 Then shall they deliver you up to be aafflicted, and shall kill you, and ye shall be bhated of all nations, for my name’s sake;
8 And then shall many be aoffended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another;
9 And many afalse prophets shall arise, and shall deceive many;
10 And because iniquity shall abound, the alove of many shall wax cold;
11 But he that remaineth asteadfast and is not overcome, the same shall be saved.
12 When you, therefore, shall see the aabomination of bdesolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, concerning the destruction of cJerusalem, then you shall stand in the dholy place; whoso readeth let him understand.
13 Then let them who are in Judea flee into the amountains;
14 Let him who is on the housetop flee, and not return to take anything out of his house;
15 Neither let him who is in the field return back to take his clothes;
16 And wo unto them that are with achild, and unto them that give suck in those days;
17 Therefore, pray ye the Lord that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the Sabbath day;
18 For then, in those days, shall be great atribulation on the bJews, and upon the inhabitants of cJerusalem, such as was not before sent upon Israel, of God, since the beginning of their kingdom until this time; no, nor ever shall be sent again upon Israel.
19 All things which have befallen them are only the beginning of the sorrows which shall come upon them.
20 And except those days should be shortened, there should none of their flesh be asaved; but for the elect’s sake, according to the bcovenant, those days shall be shortened.
21 Behold, these things I have spoken unto you concerning the Jews; and again, after the tribulation of those days which shall come upon Jerusalem, if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there, believe him not;
22 For in those days there shall also arise false aChrists, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch, that, if possible, they shall deceive the very elect, who are the elect according to the covenant.
23 Behold, I speak these things unto you for the aelect’s sake; and you also shall hear of bwars, and rumors of wars; see that ye be not troubled, for all I have told you must come to pass; but the end is not yet.
24 Behold, I have told you before;
25 Wherefore, if they shall say unto you: Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: Behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not;
26 For as the light of the morning cometh out of the aeast, and shineth even unto the west, and covereth the whole earth, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
27 And now I show unto you a parable. Behold, wheresoever the acarcass is, there will the eagles be bgathered together; so likewise shall mine elect be gathered from the four quarters of the earth.
28 And they shall hear of wars, and rumors of wars.
29 Behold I speak for mine elect’s sake; for nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; there shall be afamines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
30 And again, because iniquity shall abound, the love of men shall wax acold; but he that shall not be overcome, the same shall be saved.
31 And again, this aGospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world, for a witness unto all bnations, and then shall the end come, or the destruction of the wicked;
32 And again shall the aabomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, be fulfilled.
33 And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the asun shall be bdarkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the cstars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
34 Verily, I say unto you, this ageneration, in which these things shall be shown forth, shall not pass away until all I have told you shall be fulfilled.
35 Although, the days will come, that heaven and earth shall pass away; yet my awords shall not pass away, but all shall be fulfilled.
36 And, as I said before, after the atribulation of those days, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken, then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven, and then shall all the tribes of the earth bmourn; and they shall see the cSon of Man dcoming in the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory;
37 And whoso atreasureth up my word, shall not be deceived, for the Son of Man shall bcome, and he shall send his cangels before him with the great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together the dremainder of his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
38 Now learn a parable of the afig-tree—When its branches are yet tender, and it begins to put forth leaves, you know that summer is nigh at hand;
39 So likewise, mine elect, when they shall see all these things, they shall know that he is near, even at the doors;
40 But of that day, and hour, no one aknoweth; no, not the angels of God in heaven, but my Father only.
41 But as it was in the days of aNoah, so it shall be also at the coming of the Son of Man;
42 For it shall be with them, as it was in the days which were before the aflood; for until the day that Noah entered into the ark they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage;
43 And aknew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
44 Then shall be fulfilled that which is written, that in the alast days, two shall be in the field, the one shall be taken, and the other bleft;
45 Two shall be grinding at the mill, the one shall be taken, and the other left;
46 And what I say unto one, I say unto all men; awatch, therefore, for you know not at what hour your Lord doth come.
47 But know this, if the good man of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to have been broken up, but would have been ready.
48 Therefore be ye also aready, for in such an hour as ye think not, the Son of Man cometh.
49 Who, then, is a afaithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
50 Blessed is that aservant whom his lord, when he cometh, shall find so doing; and verily I say unto you, he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
51 But if that evil servant shall say in his heart: My lord adelayeth his coming,
52 And shall begin to smite his fellow-servants, and to eat and drink with the drunken,
53 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
54 And shall cut him asunder, and shall appoint him his portion with the hypocrites; there shall be weeping and agnashing of teeth.
55 And thus cometh the aend of the wicked, according to the prophecy of Moses, saying: They shall be cut off from among the people; but the end of the earth is not yet, but by and by.

KJV Matthew 23:38-39 24:1-51
39. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

1. And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3. And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4. And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8. All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15. When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16. Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17. Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18. Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20. But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21. For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25. Behold, I have told you before.
26. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33. So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39. And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46. Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49. And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50. The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51. And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
King James Version of the Holy Bible
Public domain

186 posted on 08/10/2012 8:08:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: evad; Jim Robinson
Why doesn't JimRob clean up these haters?

It's a trick!

He let's the MORMONs rant so the WORLD can see how they operate.

187 posted on 08/10/2012 8:09:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

Thank you for your opinion.
Now learn about Mormonism, who’s foundation is based on hate towards Christians.
You want to defend hatred towards Christians go ahead but don’t pretend you are a righteous person in doing so.
Mormons do not threaten me, Mormonism threatens the souls of those who believe it, now either face that fact or defend it the choice is yours.


188 posted on 08/10/2012 8:11:03 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: MDspinboyredux
Are you afraid he’s going to try and convert you, like he did to the people of Massachusetts when he was governor?

No, just that OTHER ignorant souls will be swayed by the slimey seduction of MORMONism and miss the rewards that Christ has for them.


Have you researched the records of the proselyzing 'missionaries' of Massachusetts for that time period?

189 posted on 08/10/2012 8:13:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 1035rep
Please don’t ping me again.

Sorry; it's not your call.

If ANYone posts something that I disagree with, it IS my priviledge to reply to it, even if the poster has BEGGED me not to it in the past.

Man up - you can take it.

190 posted on 08/10/2012 8:17:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SZonian

All I can say is that you have a very curious posting manner for someone who claims they are “trying to get the discourse down to a level where it’s civil”. It seems to me like someone throwing mud at their car to wash it.

Good luck, though :-)


191 posted on 08/10/2012 8:22:03 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: BCW
...where the hell do you people come from???

You evidently have not been paying attention.

We said, over and over, 'where we are coming from'.

We have an extra gene, evidently, that a lot of FR conservatives do NOT have. (I don't want to say the others are LACKING a gene; they'd get defensive.)

This gene allows us to see a little bit further (farther?) into the future than most.

To a place when this NAtion we are passionately trying to keep together has vanished completely.

To a place where ALL men stand before their Creator and give account of their lives.

These folks with the geneN-1 cannot understand why we are so passionate about NOT having Romney as President.

They misunderstand SO much that they ACCUSE us of being FOR Obama; which is wrong.

We DO want AMERICA to succeed and become what it should be; but we realize that our problems are NOT political; but spiritual.


Obama has been compared to King George; and rightly so.

It took a Washington; who prayed to the correct GOD, to set this Nation on the course it steered for over 200 years.

One could only imagine where we'd be today if Deceived (or deceiving) Romney had been the one crossing the Delaware.

192 posted on 08/10/2012 8:28:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BCW
Look - I don’t like Romney - never have — my support is going to Ron Paul...

When primary time came to Indiana, he was the only one left against Romney. The others had DROPPED out.

Dispite the crazy uncle personna the press saddled him with; guess who I voted for?

193 posted on 08/10/2012 8:32:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tamzee
I scrolled through your last few posts and noticed that you indulge in mean-spirited comments and name-calling...

And was this before or after all of the insults, accusations, low mental capabilities suspected and of bad examples of being a Christian were bandied about?

194 posted on 08/10/2012 8:35:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tamzee

If folks tease the dog, they should not complaim if it snaps at them


195 posted on 08/10/2012 8:36:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: norwaypinesavage
My closest friend (for 45 years) was once a Mormon.

Oh?

What's he now?

196 posted on 08/10/2012 8:37:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
I don’t see Mormons bombing WTC’s and doing rampant suicide bombings like the Muzzies do. Doesn’t that concern you at all?

Sigh...

Matthew 10:28

"Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul;
but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

197 posted on 08/10/2012 8:39:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Why don't you MORMONs post some PRO-mormonISM threads?

I'm SURE you guys have a lot of uplifting and edifying words to say: to each other, anyway.

I can't believe you would actually go so far as to accuse someone of being a Mormon because she is acting to try to see that a Mormon wins the White House over a Muslim. Logically speaking, wouldn't that indicate that you are a Muslim since your actions would lead to helping the Muslim win instead of the Mormon?.

Regarding who is and isn't Christian on this thread: Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, Self-Control.

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198 posted on 08/10/2012 8:41:00 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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I can't believe you would actually go so far as to accuse someone of being a Mormon because she is acting to try to see that a Mormon wins the White House over a Muslim.

So; are you admiting that you HATE MUSLIMs?

199 posted on 08/10/2012 8:45:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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"Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 10:28

Thank you. Another one that I like tells those of us who fear Him what He hates and finds detestable:

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12 A worthless person, a wicked man, Walks with a perverse mouth;
13 He winks with his eyes, He shuffles his feet, He points with his fingers;
14 Perversity is in his heart, He devises evil continually, He sows discord.
15 Therefore his calamity shall come suddenly; Suddenly he shall be broken without remedy.

16 These six things the Lord hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
17 A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil,
19 A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren.

Proverbs 6:12-19 (New King James Version)

200 posted on 08/10/2012 9:03:13 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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