Posted on 08/06/2012 9:14:56 AM PDT by ravager
NEW DELHI -- India reacted with grief and outrage at the news that at least six Sikhs were killed when a gunman attacked them Sunday in their Wisconsin temple as they prayed and prepared food. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, himself a Sikh, said in a statement Monday that he was shocked and saddened by the news and extended his condolences to the families of the victims.
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Oh I see, you’re nothing but a race baiter and liar. You are not worth my time, whatever color you are.
I have the same opinion about you. We dont need to have a conversation. Have a good one.
I don't think you speak for the Sikhs. They have already voiced their opinion and quite clearly against numerous instances of killing and racially motivated assaults post 9/11. Too bad you don't like the sound of it.
I could understand this anger if the US Government or the public as a whole supported these acts, but they don’t. They are carried out by the occasional moron or lunatic who is either killed at the scene, or quickly apprehended and punished to the full extent of the law.
So again, tell me why it is justified that these Sikhs whip themselves up into a frenzy and start ripping up US flags and chanting anti-american slogans because of the actions of a few ignorant and/or unbalanced individuals. These people aren’t doing their fellow co-religionists any favours, because as we have already seen in this thread, many Americans will see what these people are doing, and simply consign them to the ‘angry raghead loser’ category and lose any sympathy they might have had for them...
And what you choose to see as isolated incidents carried out by a few ignorant individual, they see it as a targeted hate crime activity by a very well organized group. Sikhs are warriors, they dont live off people's mercy or sympathy to worry about what Americans will consign them to.
I am using the word ‘towelhead’ not for what I think of them, but as a representation of what a lot of Americans will think of them when they see scenes like that depicted in the photo. Many already can’t make the distinction between Sikh and Muslim, they will simply conflate both groups in the same category, i.e. ‘angry ragheads’ and dismiss them.
As for your last paragraph, you seem to be justifying their stupidity and willful ignorance if they think that what has happened is ‘targeted hate crime activity by a very well organized group’ when it blindly obvious to any impartial observer that that is not the case. So why are you justifying their stupidity?
And I don't think it's stupidity or willful ignorance. I think they are perfectly correct in their assessment.
I'm guessing you are young enough not to remember the 1984 anti-Sikh massacres. Some estimates put the deaths near 20,000.
Isn't it enough to be disgusted by this violence where ever it occurs?
Sorry. Just not going to lectured on religious tolerance by people who routinely slaughter each other in the hundreds and thousands.
Well get used to it. US lectures other countries on “religious us freedom”. Now its time to practice some of that. And very soon US might have a large Muslim population like India. You might be needing more “advice” from India.
I was just pointing out what the left’s typical reaction would be. I don’t know what this a-clown’s affiliation is, do they still allow the gnazie party to exist?
Bullshit. One lone nut went crazy. When the various ragheads can go a decade or two without a Pogrom, I’ll maybe pay them some mind, until then they can just STFU.
At least in the violence in India, they take on the real muzzies, terrorists and trouble makers, not kill random innocents just because "they look different". You already have got plenty “lone nuts” around. Would be good to start taking India's advise. That way at least your stupid people can figure out correctly who the f*** to kill.
You can’t make a cogent reasonable argument, so F##f Off.
Have a nice day.
These idiots should not move here then. Loads of people get shot and killed here each years. Black, Mexican, white. Sikhs got shot up just like everybody else. Join the club you turbaned clowns. And while you are at it stop dressing like Muslim. You confuse us and when one of our crazies wants to shoot up a mosque he might shoot up your place instead
” You confuse us”
Not our fault if your kind comes without brain cells. If we confuse you, go pick up a damn book, get some freaking education. So you can tell what a mosque looks like before you start shooting at shit.
If others were just as dense as you, they would be shooting at every blad whiteys on the street mistaking them for skinheads.
Please describe what was “right wing” about this nutcase.
You’ve bought a primary Big Lie of the Left is my take on your statement.
I’ve been here longer if anyone leaves its you newb
Its my thread. You are free to leave.
all you idiots need to do is to STOP WEARING TURBINES that make you look Muslim!!! So that your place of worship gets shot up. Is this to much to ask?
(/sarc)
India hates us now??? Grab a number and get in line!
I thought once the Eeeeeeevil Boooooosh was out of office the world would love us again.
I maybe wrong but If you have anything different, I would love to hear. Along with whatever evidence you may have.
If you cant tell turban from turbines, then you might as well start shooting at every sh!t out there. Eventually everything/everyone will look Muslim.
Assertion by left wing media isn’t much of an argument for calling him “right wing”.
You’re the one buying and attempting to further the assertion that he is somehow “right wing”. I’ve challenged the assertion; the burden of proof is on those making that assertion. You haven’t provided much in the way of an argument that he was in any way “right wing”.
Did he believe in individual rights, limited government, and personal property rights?
What made him an “extreme right winger”? Other than the media making him so by assertion, and thereby smearing conservatives, that is. Which is the whole point of them labeling him thus. So why are you doing it?
You're right - there aren't enough policemen - or money to hire more - to have them acting a private body guards. We all need to protect ourselves and count on the police to collect evidence after the crime to secure a conviction.
“Right wing terrorist” is the word used by a former Department of Homeland security analyst and federal investigators. Plus several news media have described him in similar terms and I am quoting on their authority.
Individual rights and personal property rights are guaranteed by the constitution and have nothing to do with left or right.
If you are challenging the assertion then you better have something more then mere words.
So you have appeal to authority? That’s your argument? From officials in a Leftist Administration who are all about smearing the political right, by association?
Look, logical fallacies in argumentation do not constitute an argument.
You have made an assertion that this guy was “right wing”. What were his beliefs that make him so? You are standing on naked assertion and appeal to authority at the moment, and I continue to call BS.
And further, the modern Left shows again and again they spit on various aspects of our Constitution.
You aren’t really getting this, are you?
And what have you got so far?
Nothing but just garbage rhetoric.
You’re not at the right site, are you? You are not a conservative, that is.
The news media *is* garbage rhetoric is the point that you’re not getting. And you continue to not make anything resembling an argument to support your assertion. I know it is hard, the schools don’t teach that very much these days.
And the right wing is anti-ILLEGAL-immigrant. But since you apparently buy the swill that the news media are dishing out, without thought, you believe their line that the right is anti-immigrant.
Seriously, learn to think for yourself and to question raw assertion. Get to underlying facts. There are precious few in the articles and statements being made propagandizing this horrible event.
Oh, and on the general subject of Sikhs - I was in favor of recruiting a Sikh regiment similar to the Gurkahs in the wake of 9/11. But I guess that just makes me an anti-immigrant right wing racist.
I kinda belong to the same ethnic minority group as the victims of Wisconsin. I have lived in US for more then half my life. I have a very good idea what kind of immigrants the right wingers are against. I know THAT first hand whatever else I may or may not know. I don't need the media to tell me that.
I don't go around wearing the “conservative” badge like you or care for measuring up to your standards, but I am pro-life, small govt, lower taxes, right to bear arms, lower regulations, free market,pro nuclear energy,pro-Israel, anti-Arab/Muslim and anti-PRC. And I was a huge fan of Bush.
There are still plenty of things I know about right wingers from personal experience that I am honestly not fond of. The media has nothing to do with that.
Why would I have limited that recruitment to the U.S.? I’m in favor of legal immigration, remember.
I’m sorry you’ve had bad experiences. I still have seen nothing that makes this guy “right wing” other than raw assertion by people with an agenda.
Oh, and you were doing really good up until the Bush part. ;-P
Lots better than what we have now, but no one to be a huge fan over.
Your thread? I thought FR belonged to Jim Robinson. I think I’ll say whatever I want. Try and stop me. Newb.
Our conversation is long over. So just get lost.
More Indians die riding the train. Why don’t they go protest that.
Kind of an uppity troll isn’t he?
I think his turban is wound too tight.
What conversation? I’m the only one capable of rational thought. Takes two sentient beings to have a conversation. I’m just teasing the troll.
He’s pining for the serene city life of Mumbai.
I disagree. remember that the Sikhs murdered here were Americans.
There are nuts in the world and I’m afraid that’s the way it is. We’re not protesting CA here in CO because of that movie theater killer.
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