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Gunman opens fire at Sikh temple in Wisconsin; 7 dead
NBCNews ^ | August 5, 2012

Posted on 08/05/2012 12:28:58 PM PDT by Red Steel

By NBC News and wire services

Updated at 2:57 p.m. ET: A gunman opened fire Sunday morning at a Sikh temple outside of Milwaukee, killing at least six people and wounding a police officer before being shot to death, police said.

Greenfield Police Chief Bradley Wentlandt, acting as public information officer at the scene, said the shooting was reported at 10:25 a.m. at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek, south of Milwaukee along Lake Michigan. The shooting happened shortly before Sunday services were to begin.

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A police officer who is a 20-year law enforcement veteran responded to the scene and confronted a gunman outstide the temple. The officer was shot multiple times, Wendlandt said. The officer returned fire, striking and killing the gunman. The wounded officer was taken to a hospital where he was undergoing surgery.

Wendlandt said four bodies were found inside the temple and three, including the suspected gunman, were outside.

He did not identify or describe the victims.

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Earlier, at least four people were seen covered on the ground outside the temple. The temple's president was among those shot, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported.

Sukhwindar Nagr, of Racine, said he called his brother-in-law's phone and a priest at the temple answered, The Associated Press reported. Nagr said the priest told him that his brother-in-law had been shot

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A temple committee member, Ven Boba Ri, told the Journal-Sentinel that people inside the temple described the shooter was a white male in his 30s.

"We have no idea," he said of the motive. "It's pretty much a hate crime. It's not an insider."

Ri told the Journal-Sentinel the gunman walked up to a priest who was standing outside the temple and shot him. Then he went inside and started shooting.

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To: nolongerademocrat

You’re an ass.


51 posted on 08/05/2012 1:53:49 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: The Sons of Liberty
I can’t help wondering if the gunman mistook Sihk turbans for muzzie raghead headpieces.

That happened to Balbir Singh Sodhi on 15 September 2001. He had immigrated from India in 1989. Working as a cab driver in LA and SF, he saved up enough money to buy a gas station in Mesa, AZ, where he was gunned down.

52 posted on 08/05/2012 1:55:14 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: bigdaddy45

Okay. You are entitled to your opinion. What do you think happened?


53 posted on 08/05/2012 1:58:49 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: paintriot

AKAL, yep...


54 posted on 08/05/2012 2:01:17 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Red Steel

Four people were killed and 10 wounded in several shootings overnight in Chicago, falling in line with a violent summer. 

Three 16-year-old boys were in a garage in the East Garfield Park neighborhood Thursday afternoon when two people walked up and opened fire, according to the Chicago Tribune. Two of the injured attempted to run away but did not make it far before collapsing, police said. The third boy survived.

Hours later a garage in the South Austin neighborhood was the scene of another shooting. Two 52-year-old men were struck, one of them fatally, according to police. The wounded man shouted for someone to call police and waited on a nearby porch until help arrived, police said. 

Another man, the fourth of the afternoon, was shot several times and pronounced dead at Roseland Community Hospital. The 31-year-old was discovered in the 11200 block of South Langley Avenue in the Pullman neighborhood. 

Six more shootings left eight others wounded. 

Mayor Rahm Emanuel recognized the high crime presence earlier this month when he proposed a gun control ordinance. Police Supt. Garry McCarthy this week said he is encouraged by the falling crime rates. The 49 homicides in July were six less than the previous year, McCarthy.  


55 posted on 08/05/2012 2:01:27 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: bigdaddy45

Book recommendation for you - BTW it was written by a doctor. http://www.amazon.com/The-CIA-Doctors-Violations-Psychiatrists/dp/0976550806/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344200467&sr=8-1&keywords=cia+doctors


56 posted on 08/05/2012 2:03:11 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Red Steel

Hey NBC, how many of Holder’s people shot and killed Obama’s sons, (if he had had any) in Chicago this week end?


57 posted on 08/05/2012 2:04:02 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Once I was young, now I am old and the in between went way too fast)
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To: Red Steel

Horrible. We have some Sikh neighbors here in Chicago. Great people and a fine family. I’d trust them with the lives of my children.


58 posted on 08/05/2012 2:06:44 PM PDT by Snake65
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To: Red Steel

in my experience the Sikh are good people, hard working and honest. Damn shame some freaking wacko did this.


59 posted on 08/05/2012 2:06:58 PM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: junta
Beyond the nuts at this particular thread who see gun control as the PC issue in which to drub the GOP you simply do not have to go far into leftdom to find violent nutters who are fascinated with “gun violence.”

Glancing quickly through the posts at your link, we come to JayFromPA, who claims to own "double-digit" firearms while being "WELL to the left of Bernie Sanders" and "wants to get back on topic now, eh". What a freak!

If right-wing Pennsylvania gun owners are "bitter clingers", what is the accepted PC label for Jay?

60 posted on 08/05/2012 2:07:05 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: arkady_renko

“Mayor Rahm Emanuel recognized the high crime presence earlier this month when he proposed a gun control ordinance. Police Supt. Garry McCarthy this week said he is encouraged by the falling crime rates. The 49 homicides in July were six less than the previous year, McCarthy.”

He seriously said this?


61 posted on 08/05/2012 2:08:31 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Now a Chick-fil-A customer . . . God bless Dan Cathy)
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To: arkady_renko

Just more Chicago values being demonestrated, my FRiend. Always remmber, Chic-Fil-a’s values are not Chicago’s values as none other than His honor,Rahlm Emanuel proclaimed.


62 posted on 08/05/2012 2:09:28 PM PDT by sport
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To: Tzimisce

Has the lame-stream media begun to speculate whom the shooter might be: A right-wing extremist; a white Hispanic; a Romney supporter; a Republican; a Christian; a TEA Party member; an NRA member; a talk-radio junkie; or just an angry white guy.


63 posted on 08/05/2012 2:11:33 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Red Steel

Mass violence is commonplace at Sikh temples.

Nothing unusual here.


64 posted on 08/05/2012 2:21:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: nolongerademocrat

I think some nut snapped and fired on a bunch of innocent people. And I assume you think this is some kind of conspiracy hatched by Obama and/or his supporters. With zero evidence.


65 posted on 08/05/2012 2:22:54 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: nolongerademocrat

How are they linked?


66 posted on 08/05/2012 2:23:40 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Red Steel

Everybody knows before anybody knows. Curious.


67 posted on 08/05/2012 2:25:30 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Red Steel

Indian embassy in touch with US NSC on gurudwara shooting

PTI
DNA
Monday, August 6, 2012, 1:22 IST

India today said its embassy in Washington has been in touch with the US National Security Council on the tragic incident of firing inside a Gurudwara in Wisconsin that left at least seven people dead.

Indian Ambassador to the US Nirupama Rao said that an official has been deputed to rush to the site to ascertain the situation on-the-spot.

Upto seven people were killed and several others injured when at least three gunmen opened fire at the Gurudwara in Wisconsin in a coordinated attack during morning prayers.

US President Barack Obama was also briefed by his counter-terrorism advisor John Brennan on the situation and the White House is seized of the matter, US officials said.

“We have seen reports on the tragic incident earlier today of firing at a group of worshipers in a Gurudwara in the Milwaukee suburb of Oak Creek, Wisconsin,” Rao said in a statement.

“The Embassy is seized of the situation and has been in touch with the National Security Council in Washington,” she said.

Rao said the Indian Consulate General in Chicago too has been in close touch with the local authorities to monitor the situation.

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_indian-embassy-in-touch-with-us-nsc-on-gurudwara-shooting_1724426


68 posted on 08/05/2012 2:28:11 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Loyal Sedition
“This would be #2 after Aurora, expect at least one more.”

If there is a 3rd incident, maybe another soft target like a theater or religious site. A place that is a gun-free zone.

69 posted on 08/05/2012 2:31:09 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere. Join them. Join us.)
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To: US Navy Vet
This is too bad, Sikh’s are GOOD people!

They are, but they are not to be messed with either. If this guy is part of a group, that group best watch it's back...Or maybe I could watch it for them, so I can applaud when a Sikh puts a knife in it.

Many are police or security here. In India they are in the military way out of proportion to their numbers especially in the officer corps.

70 posted on 08/05/2012 2:31:36 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Jyotishi

In another story I read they said it was one shooter-so is it 1 or 3 shooters?


71 posted on 08/05/2012 2:32:21 PM PDT by funfan
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Oh yeah, he seriously said that. Just breathtaking.

And then there is Rahm. This violence caused by too many guns. Downstate there are many more guns, yet it is a huge story when one is used in a crime. Not the guns, the culture to blame.


72 posted on 08/05/2012 2:34:29 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: US Navy Vet

Bump!


73 posted on 08/05/2012 2:35:52 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: US Navy Vet

Bump!


74 posted on 08/05/2012 2:36:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Red Steel

Punjab CM asks US authorities to ensure sanctity of shrines

PTI
DNA
Monday, Augus 6, 2012, 1:19 IST

Punjab Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal today described as “deeply painful and shocking” the attack by gunmen on devotees at a Gurudwara in the US and urged the authorities there to ensure that the sanctity of religious shrines is maintained.

Deputy Chief Minister Sukhbir Singh Badal is monitoring the situation in New Delhi and will take up the issue with the Union Government, an official spokesperson said here tonight.

The incident of firing in Gurdwara in Oak Creek is “deeply painful, shocking and highly condemnable”. The Chief Minister has urged Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to intervene in the matter immediately and ask the US authorities to ensure security of devotees and the sanctity of the religious shrines all across America, the spokesman said.

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_punjab-cm-asks-us-authorities-to-ensure-sanctity-of-shrines_1724425


75 posted on 08/05/2012 2:41:47 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

The temple has a huge sign “Sikh Temple”.


76 posted on 08/05/2012 2:41:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Red Steel

The big anti religion/gay rights gang is active these days! This is not Islamic terrorism but the feds are never gonna tell us the truth.


77 posted on 08/05/2012 2:48:58 PM PDT by vet7279
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To: Sirius Lee
It's a theory on your part. No better than anybody else's at this point.

A theory, most call it common sense or until there is evidence to prove otherwise.

Series!

78 posted on 08/05/2012 2:50:35 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Maybe Obamians are going to stretch the sphere of influence and go town to town jinning (sic) up gun control.

No way, did Mayor Rahm thinking he was moving to Shangrila (sic). He knew crime was rampant in Chicago way before he was running for da’ mayorship.

79 posted on 08/05/2012 2:54:47 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere. Join them. Join us.)
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To: South40
A connector can always be found. Knowing when it matters is the difference in rationality and insanity.

Indeed....common sense is not so common around here sometimes.

80 posted on 08/05/2012 2:55:32 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: hummingbird

They are ALWAYS “Gun Free” zones.

I expect the next to be a school, since that has not happened yet in this cycle.


81 posted on 08/05/2012 2:56:42 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: nolongerademocrat
Okay, you tell me why:

NO, you tell me why and provide proof of your assertion.

Are you a truther too?

Was 9/11 a "false flag operation"?

82 posted on 08/05/2012 2:59:35 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: arkady_renko
Wow, looks like Rahm had better make Garages illegal.
83 posted on 08/05/2012 3:00:46 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Commie is an Impeached Commie.)
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To: El Gato

“Many are police or security here. In India they are in the military way out of proportion to their numbers especially in the officer corps.”


Maybe we should purge our military of Muslims and hire a few folks from India.


84 posted on 08/05/2012 3:01:10 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere. Join them. Join us.)
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To: Red Steel

Picture gallery with descriptions:

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-gunman-goes-on-rampage-in-wisconsin-gurudwara-7-dead/20120806.htm


85 posted on 08/05/2012 3:07:06 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Excerpt - Sikh rights groups have reported a rise in bias
attacks since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The
Washington-based Sikh Coalition has reported more than
700 incidents in the U.S. since 9/11, which advocates
blame on anti-Islamic sentiment. Sikhs don’t practice the
same religion as Muslims, but their long beards and
turbans often cause them to be mistaken for Muslims,
advocates say.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57486965/shooting-at-sikh-temple-in-wis-at-least-7-dead/?tag=socsh


86 posted on 08/05/2012 3:17:21 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Red Steel

Congress letter urging U.S. Dept of Justice, FBI to start tracking hate crimes against Sikh-Americans (pdf)

April 19, 2012

http://crowley.house.gov/sites/crowley.house.gov/files/Letter%20to%20DOJ%20on%20Hate%20Crimes%20Against%20Sikh-Americans%2004-19-2012_0.pdf


87 posted on 08/05/2012 3:28:34 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Red Steel

From a couple of years ago:

Excerpt

A Question of Appearances: Obama Will Bypass Sikh Temple on Visit to India

The Golden Temple in Amritsar, India, is a popular stop for famous visitors. Sikh scriptures require that men tie a piece of cloth on their heads to enter.
Raminder Pal Singh/European Pressphoto Agency

By Lydia Polgreen
The New York Times
October 19, 2010

New Delhi — The Golden Temple, a sprawling and serene complex of gleaming gold and polished marble that is the spiritual center of the Sikh religion, is one of India’s most popular tourist attractions. Revered by Indians of all faiths, it is a cherished emblem of India’s religious diversity. So it was no surprise when the gold-plated marvel was promoted as the likely third stop on President Obama’s visit to India, scheduled for early November.

But the United States has ruled out a Golden Temple visit, according to an American official involved in planning. Temple officials said that American advance teams had gone to Amritsar, the holy city that is the site of the temple, to discuss a possible visit. But the plan appears to have foundered on the thorny question of how Mr. Obama would cover his head, as Sikh tradition requires, while visiting the temple.

“To come to golden temple he needs to cover his head,” said Dalmegh Singh, secretary of the committee that runs the temple. “That is our tradition.”

Mr. Obama, a Christian, has struggled to fend off persistent rumors that he is a Muslim, and Sikhs in the United States have often been mistaken for Muslims. Sikhism, which arose in the Punjab region in the 15th century, includes elements of Hinduism and Islam but forms a wholly distinct faith. Since Sept. 11, 2001, Sikhs in the United States have been occasional targets of anti-Muslim discrimination and violence — a Sikh was killed in Arizona a few days after the attack on the World Trade Center by a man who mistook him for a Muslim.

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/20/world/asia/20india.html?_r=1


88 posted on 08/05/2012 3:48:11 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

Afaik, Sikhs rock.


89 posted on 08/05/2012 4:21:05 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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To: Red Steel

[Temple] Shooting Gunman White Male With 9-11 Tatoo – CNN

By Zennie Abraham
Published on August 5, 2012

I’m watching CNN where a man just interviewed, and who’s
name is Manwari Kalika (spelling check needed) said that
the gunman who opened fire and shot 20 people, killing
seven (including a police officer), and causing three
people to be in critical condition was a white male, just
over six-feet tall, and with a 9-11 tatoo.

That tatoo tells is a lot about what this nutcase’s
motive may have been: he thought he was shooting in a
Muslim temple, and was in an Indian Sikh temple. First,
whoever the gunman is, he’s a racist, murderous mentally-
ill idiot. Second, he’s just plain dumb, on top of being
(third) a sick bastard.

Also, the bodies have not been removed from the temple as
of this writing. The gunman went right into the prayer
room, and then opened fire. The President of the temple
tried to tackle the gunman, and got shot in the back.

Stay tuned

http://zennie62blog.com/2012/08/05/theater-shooting-gunman-white-male-9-11-tatoo-cnn-46811/


90 posted on 08/05/2012 4:36:43 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: grumpygresh

Even if true, ABC and Brian Ross have released secured information that may hamper the investigation.


91 posted on 08/05/2012 5:01:45 PM PDT by the_slayer
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To: Repeal The 17th; the invisib1e hand
"dnfws"

Looks like a warning regarding messing with Sikhs, to me.

92 posted on 08/05/2012 5:29:58 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Red Steel
10 -- 9 -- 8 -- 7 -- 6 --


93 posted on 08/05/2012 5:34:30 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: funfan

Excerpt - Contrary to multiple panicked reports from the
scene, officials say they believe there was only one
shooter.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-sikh-temple-domestic-terrorism-20120805,0,6094643.story


94 posted on 08/05/2012 6:48:31 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Loyal Sedition
“I expect the next to be a school, since that has not happened yet in this cycle.”

------------------------------------ Unfortunately, this is a possibility.

Pray without ceasing for Peace.

95 posted on 08/05/2012 6:57:48 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere. Join them. Join us.)
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To: Red Steel

Perhaps NumbNutz confused Sikhs with Muslims.

Just because Sikh’s wear turbans does not mean they are Muslims. Sikhs are good people, but Islam’s adherents are just dangerous.


96 posted on 08/05/2012 7:20:59 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Red Steel; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ..

Wisconsin Sikh Temple shooting ping

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping.


97 posted on 08/06/2012 1:02:53 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: Loyal Sedition
I expect the next to be a school, since that has not happened yet in this cycle.

School is not in session yet, in much of the country.

Colleges are unlikely, they don't capture the public psyche like smaller victims.

That sounds cold, but the calculus of terrorist acts is a cold math, indeed.

If the objective of these acts (provided they are in any way connected) is more gun control, the victims which will cause the greatest outpouring of emotion will be the target.

Dear Lord Jesus, keep the children safe.

98 posted on 08/06/2012 1:19:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I would fear to list the likely locations full of kids.

Too many “Gun Free” venues available for these wacko’s to attack.


99 posted on 08/06/2012 1:29:43 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: cynwoody

Leftist methodology is to first bombard the vulnerable (meaning people who think like young girls) with sad stories. so to mainly plant the idea of the left’s moral superiority amongst the masses, then behind them come the intimidators who include violence in their repetoire. The Left today is Jim Jones’ cult writ large.


100 posted on 08/06/2012 8:06:28 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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