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Sales numbers may make GM's bad week even worse (but Obama "saved" GM. /sarc.)
nbc ^ | 7/31/2012 | Paul A. Eisenstein

Posted on 08/01/2012 3:23:49 AM PDT by tobyhill

GM's horrible week may get more horrible.

The week began badly for the world's No. 1 automaker with the unexplained ouster of its global marketing chief. Barring a late July surge, GM is expected to report July sales numbers on Wednesday that lag behind its chief rivals. And on Thursday it will announce what is widely forecast to be dismal profit numbers for the second quarter -- largely reflecting the maker’s ongoing problems in the free-falling European car market.

Complicating matters, GM’s recent problems have been magnified by its unintended and unwanted role in the 2012 presidential campaign. Though it was the former Republican President George W. Bush who launched the bailout of the struggling maker -- and rival Chrysler -- in late 2008, it was his successor, President Barack Obama, who took that effort to the next, far more costly level. To critics, “Government Motors” is a symbol of the administration’s perceived failures.

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1 posted on 08/01/2012 3:24:02 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
GM needs to file a Chapter 11 bankruptcy and re-organize. This includes new contract negotiations and possibly a break up into separate parts.

Obama and his magic fairies need to keep their hands off and let established law and market forces work.

2 posted on 08/01/2012 3:34:36 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: tobyhill

With the Plummeting stock Price How Many Billions are the Tax Payers in the Hole Now?


3 posted on 08/01/2012 3:38:40 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: tobyhill

With the Plummeting stock Price How Many Billions are the Tax Payers in the Hole Now?


4 posted on 08/01/2012 3:38:52 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer
with sub-prime loans in reality is a house of cards to get past the election

I am sure they can't sell a Bond after Obama shafted the last Bondholders.

If someone can breath I am sure GMAC will fiance you on a new car or truck

5 posted on 08/01/2012 3:44:00 AM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: tobyhill

Last week I heard some GM commercial boasting about having their best year ever. GM has learned to tell whoppers just like their boss Barry.


6 posted on 08/01/2012 3:44:00 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: tobyhill
“Government Motors” is a symbol of the administration’s perceived failures.

GM is a symbol of the massive corruption and crony capitalism that may destroy America as a free country, and for that reason many patriotic Americans are boycotting that entity forever. I hope GM dies a well-deserved death soon as the natural consequence of their "bankruptcy" violating common law, bankruptcy law, contract law, and human decency. That company is dead to me, and I am glad so much of their product line is such crap that few people want to buy from them.

7 posted on 08/01/2012 3:49:26 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pollster1

Lie down with dogs, etc....


8 posted on 08/01/2012 3:55:53 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: ballplayer

Finally an “ I built that” credit deserved.


9 posted on 08/01/2012 3:58:10 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: caver

“As GM goes, so goes the Nation”. Now that is encouraging! ;-)


10 posted on 08/01/2012 4:02:14 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: scooby321

Shafted is a polite word for stole from the GM Bond Holders. Obama is a common thief and should be strung up by his ears

He and the Democrat party are a criminal enterprise.


11 posted on 08/01/2012 4:02:37 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Jimmy Valentine
Obama and his magic fairies need to keep their hands off and let established law and market forces work.

If they had done so four years ago, would they not be well along the road to recovery today?

I used to think GM's biggest problem was having a work force adding to under 100,000 trying to suppoert a retired force approaching 1,000,000. The rounding may be off, but the ratios tell a story. Has any of this changed after the bail out?

12 posted on 08/01/2012 4:07:18 AM PDT by stevem
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To: tobyhill

Just another Chinese company folding up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvl5Gan69Wo


13 posted on 08/01/2012 4:07:54 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Pollster1

“Government Motors” is a symbol of the administration’s perceived failures.

Pathethic how the corrupt media bends over backwards to diminish monumental failures in order to make Sparky the Wonder Prez seem a “perceived” success.


14 posted on 08/01/2012 4:08:05 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: tobyhill

To all the Freepers who keep saying GM is doing well. They are phony numbers. GM is tanking.


15 posted on 08/01/2012 4:12:09 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: tobyhill

Obama did not think Chrysler was worth saving, so he bailed out the UAW and basically gave the company to Fiat.

Chrysler got private financing to pay off the gov’t loans (that had interest rates over 20% that most politicians would call abusive).

Now, the company is profitable, has two full years of increasing sales and is working to get out from the UAW VEBA.


16 posted on 08/01/2012 4:12:39 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

But...... is not Fiat having trouble with new bonds in Italy?


17 posted on 08/01/2012 4:16:03 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: tobyhill
And no mention of General Motors signs $750 million Manchester United deal after marketing chief ouster
"On Monday, GM, the biggest United States (US) automaker, announced its Chevrolet brand would sponsor the hugely popular
club's shirts for the next seven years. The deal is worth US$60 million (S$75 million) to US$70 million a year and
includes a US$100 million activation fee that brings the total value to as much as US$600 million, said a person with
knowledge of the contract who asked not to be identified."


That starts to add up to real money after a while.
18 posted on 08/01/2012 4:18:17 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: nascarnation

see this one too.

GM is in real trouble.


19 posted on 08/01/2012 4:32:29 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: tobyhill

One of my wife’s uncles owned some GM stock. After their most recent BR a stock broker called him and asked if he would like to buy some more after they re-organized. He told the guy he had some stock he would like to sell to him.


20 posted on 08/01/2012 4:45:39 AM PDT by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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