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Chick-Fil-A-Supporting B&B Owner Lashes Out at Lesbian
People Planet Profit ^ | July 31 2012 | Zack Ford

Posted on 07/31/2012 11:28:07 AM PDT by scottjewell

Joianne Fraschilla is a lesbian mom in New Jersey whose son has been eager to visit the petting zoo at the WhiteBriar Bed & Breakfast they pass by regularly.

This week, they noticed a sign outside the B&B promoting tomorrow’s “Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day” organized by Mike Huckabee, as well as the message “One man, one woman, one God.”

Fraschilla wrote on the B&B’s Facebook wall that she would not be bringing her son there because she was disappointed a local business was anti-equality. She received the following response, presumably from WhiteBriar co-owner Carole Lokan-Moore:

"Isn’t it wonderful Joanne Fraschilla, that you and your son can enjoy the animals here because I have a traditional marriage with a husband who works with me 90 hours a week to take care of these animals, and the summer camp….we’re 66-68 years old….there were no gays or queers in our time…..if two old ladies chose to live together..so be it, let them deal with God when they get there…but to have the “face sucking” thrown in my face of two gay lesbians who are totally destroying the “normal balance in a child’s life” as you claim your son…where is the role model that your son needs to know how to act like a man? or will he only see the “one sided selfishness” of a “single parent”…and end up an out cast in society by being “gay” himself because he didn’t have a father as a role model. I’ll pray for you….remember what the bible says: “Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas”…..guess that’s why God invented aids…

THIS LOCAL BUSINESS WILL BE ONE MAN ONE WOMAN ONE GOD MAKES MARRIAGE….AND PROUD TO DO SO….YOU SHOULD BE SO LUCKY TO OWN YOUR OWN BUSINESS."

Fraschilla has started a Change.org petition calling on WhiteBriar to apologize for the indefensible comment.

It’s worth noting that Lokan-Moore ran for the New Jersey Senate, but lost in the GOP primary having garnered only 416 votes.

Many conservatives have asked why it matters what Chick-fil-A president Dan Cathy personally believes, and the very easy answer is that words hurt...


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To: DoughtyOne

Although it is politically incorrect to say, the truth is that AIDS is a consequence of anal sex. Like it or not, it’s true. Heterosexuals get infected from the source playing both sides.

There are many other diseases that come from the anal sex lifestyle that are not mentioned in public for the sake of political correctness, too. But they are mentioned in medical journals. They are real. Screw the diseased sensibilities.


101 posted on 07/31/2012 1:46:07 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: scottjewell

I thought the B&B was a bit over the top. However they are clearly frustrated like the rest of us with getting a daily beating from the gay mafia on how great the gays are. It is about time someone fights back!


102 posted on 07/31/2012 1:47:05 PM PDT by napscoordinator (GO TO CHIC-FIL-A 1 AUGUST FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR DINNER (OR ALL))
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Exactly! Good point.


103 posted on 07/31/2012 1:49:03 PM PDT by RatRipper (Obama, YOU LIE!!! . . .again and again and again and again, ad infinitum. . . .)
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To: Vendome

I agree with you, it seems fake. It’s what a leftist/gay/lesbian would think that Chrisitans think or say. Sort of stereotyped.

surely there’s a way to find out if it is fake or not.


104 posted on 07/31/2012 1:52:24 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: pinochet

Did you watch the 1970s TV show, “All in the Family”, starring Carroll O’Conner as Archie Bunker?”

One of our favorite TV shows and I would still be watching it if it was ever on TV again. Loved Meathead and Edith. I would suspect that there are more people under 65 who agree with Archie than people would like to admit. Not all that much has changed in many regards, particularly if you look at issues like Archie’s blind allegiance to his union bosses then versus now.


105 posted on 07/31/2012 1:54:01 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: taildragger

I think it is a turning point, and I am with you on all you posted here. Never was anti-gay, not in my nature to hate nor be mean. But the agenda has reached the point of hubris and insult. Time for a turn around. And I think the CFA moment is it.


106 posted on 07/31/2012 1:55:18 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: SaraJohnson

I know a very liberal, pro-gay MD on the inlaw side...

I haven’t yet had the opportunity to ask her if male homosexual activity would be medically indicated or contra-indicated for the well being of the man in question.


107 posted on 07/31/2012 1:57:02 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: SengirV; scottjewell; wideawake

“That was not very “Christian” of the owner to thank God for AIDS. It’s crap like that which makes all Christians look like fools.”

Oh, man!!! You are so right! God should have thought of that before He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah! He should have thought of that before He destroyed the ancient world with a flood! It’s the “crap like that” destruction and judgement stuff that is “making all Christians look like fools.”

Why didn’t God this of that!?!?!

Oh, I guess it just slipped His mind! Maybe He should hire a marketing firm to help Him keep from making all these PR mistakes.


108 posted on 07/31/2012 1:58:22 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: johngrace
is=if, but you knew that! :)
109 posted on 07/31/2012 2:02:18 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: scottjewell
I didn't see the business FB page either but there is a boycott group with 4 members.

Jersey is a queer friendly state which I chose to flee in 2005 for a Christian Community in Kansas. If the rant is true, it shows that some folks are just sick of being told what to think and are standing to fight. It's their property. They hold a summer camp and don't want to deal with the liability of a maladjusted queer camper. The street sign is code -- Beware of God! LOL

110 posted on 07/31/2012 2:09:59 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DaveMSmith

I don’t think there is a regular business Facebook page. Just “Camp Whitebriar” It’s about a kids summer camp thingy - learn about gardening and animals. The gay people are leaving very nasty comments on a page that is geared towards the readership of children.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Whitebriar-animals-organic-gardens-Cooking-from-scratch-swimming/178920295483914


111 posted on 07/31/2012 2:15:56 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: scottjewell

Unfortunately,
I know both involved...The owner of the B+B is what the old timers used to call a “Tough o’l broad”, trust me when I say this.. I stopped out to the B+B just to see what is happening and she has not a care in the world...This will not affect her in any way....

The only issue I have with this story is, if you want an apology..Why do you run to Change.org and demand it from the Govt? Is George Soros gonna personally call and make it all better?


112 posted on 07/31/2012 2:27:43 PM PDT by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: Ladysforest
Got it, thanks.

I think it's time to consider a class action suit to protect Christian businesses from these idiots. Facebook isn't anonymous and neither is change.org for that matter -- there are lawyers who will track down IP addresses in slander cases.

113 posted on 07/31/2012 2:30:14 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DaveMSmith

Sounds like a plan - how is such a thing done?


114 posted on 07/31/2012 2:33:37 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: cuban leaf
I’m 58 and am already getting that “I’ve got nothing to lose” mindset.

I'm in my 60s and that mindset only gets better. I've got nothing to lose, in dealing with jerks and bullys. There may be some pain, but time is getting short and I can endure. I told off a lesbian couple a few weeks ago, sucking face not ten feet from a chldren's playground where we were swinging our grandchild. Damn perverts, throw it in our faces and I'll give them some grief.

115 posted on 07/31/2012 2:36:25 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: squarebarb

There is a screenshot of the facebook exchange on a gay website - I won’t post the link here - yucky.


116 posted on 07/31/2012 2:43:00 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: scottjewell

I doubt she wrote the tirade. There is nothing to prevent someone claiming to be her to post on the FB page. Also the writing does not read like that of a person who takes her business seriously. I can not imagine a sane business owner getting into such a public fray. It is one thing to say this is what I believe but to write something that any reasonable person knows will draw fire (”God made aids”)is so self defeating it makes no sense that she would write that.


117 posted on 07/31/2012 2:50:51 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: scottjewell
Many conservatives have asked why it matters what Chick-fil-A president Dan Cathy personally believes, and the very easy answer is that words hurt...

Only in a world consisting entirely of physically and psychologically crippled children.

This pervert was not kept away. She not only kept herself and her son away, but then whines about it nationwide.

Had she enjoyed the petting zoo and kept her mouth shut, everyone would have been satisfied, and we wouldn't be reading about it, and I wouldn't be crticizing her.

I am a veteran of the birth of militant perversion (San Francisco, late 70s). I was there when they emotionally asked simply for a little tolerance. I was skeptical then, and there is no question now, that a person inclined to perversion will run roughshod over everyone else, given the opportunity.

118 posted on 07/31/2012 2:59:45 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Ladysforest
Well, I would try ACLJ first. Chick-fil-A and others would have to sign on I guess. But, maybe this is sorting the wheat from the chaff at harvest -- let them scream and expose themselves... it shows they are not fit for polite society and should be shunned at all costs.
119 posted on 07/31/2012 3:00:14 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: hitchwolf
If it costs her her business then I don’t really care. Should not have made that comment.

Sometimes I wonder why the ones who call themselves “Christian” always seem the least Christian like.

Are you including your remarks as unChristian like?

120 posted on 07/31/2012 3:01:34 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: cuban leaf
It also may have been her lashing out in anger. People say and type things they regret later when they are angry and even Christians get angry.

Bingo! And with this going on, isn't it long past time for Christians to get angry?

121 posted on 07/31/2012 3:11:01 PM PDT by Houmatt (Basically...run.)
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To: SengirV
That was not very “Christian” of the owner to thank God for AIDS. It’s crap like that which makes all Christians look like fools.

Let's look at the rest of that quote too:

remember what the bible says: “Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas”…..guess that’s why God invented aids

"He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas" has been attributed to Benjamin Franklin's Poor Richard's Almanack. Not the bible.

122 posted on 07/31/2012 3:13:10 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Free people, when presented only with evil choices, create other choices.(EternalVigilance))
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To: publius911
The citizens in 32 states believe as Dan Cathy believes. He's with the majority of Americans. The issue is he is 1) white 2) male 3) Christian. He defends the family. The left wants to destroy the family and marriage -- that creates a government dependent underclass with no work ethic. Look at the numbers -- the majority of mothers under 30 are unwed. The majority of marriages end in divorce.

Are we beyond the point of no return?

123 posted on 07/31/2012 3:15:57 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: Wiser now
There are ways of replying to the lesbian that does not make Christians look mean and ignorant.

Her words are moral pitchforks thrust into the heart of sin. If that is mean and ignorant it is a badge of honor worthy of Jesus.

124 posted on 07/31/2012 3:18:59 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: Seven_0
I wonder where the Bible quote came from?

Poor Richard's Almanac, by Benjamin Franklin.

125 posted on 07/31/2012 3:19:31 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Free people, when presented only with evil choices, create other choices.(EternalVigilance))
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To: SengirV
That was not very “Christian” of the owner to thank God for AIDS. It’s crap like that which makes all Christians look like fools.
Is this woman a Westboro Baptist supporter as well?

Clearly you are not a Christian yourself; that second comment nails it. Might you be a deviant, or deviant supporter yourself? Your presumption of having the right to define Christianity makes it almost certain. One of their endearing qualities.

As mentioned elsewhere, humans tend to become more outspoken and uncaring of public opinion as they get older; a variant of "Freedom's just another word for 'nothing left to lose.'"

"Normals" tend not to verbalize their thoughts about emotionally-charged subjects for two reasons: it's not necessary to state the obvious. And that some targets of justified criticism tend to respond violently, physically, as well as legally.

You do know that "patient Zero" was a gay Canadian flight attendant? Nature has no religion, no pity, no judgement, no mercy. Just consequences.

126 posted on 07/31/2012 3:22:39 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Ladysforest

Yes, I see the loving and tolerant posters have worked over their page pretty well.


127 posted on 07/31/2012 3:27:40 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: OL Hickory
Unfortunately,

I know both involved...The owner of the B+B is what the old timers used to call a “Tough o’l broad”, trust me when I say this.. I stopped out to the B+B just to see what is happening and she has not a care in the world...This will not affect her in any way....

The only issue I have with this story is, if you want an apology..Why do you run to Change.org and demand it from the Govt? Is George Soros gonna personally call and make it all better?

You discussed it with the B&B Owner?

Did she confirm that she wrote an email back to the Lesbian single mother, and that she said everything that the Lesbian single mother is quoting her on?

Sounds like you also know the Lesbian single mother, did you talk to her about it as well?

You have described the B&B owner, but have said nothing about the Lesbian single mother. How would you describe her?

Perhaps you can clarify/expand upon the situation for us.

128 posted on 07/31/2012 3:29:29 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR: A smorgasbord of Conservative Mindfood - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: cuban leaf
Those pervert sites are a riot. To a man, or an it, they can't make a distinction between a "truth" and an opinion.

Like having a conversation with three-year-olds.

129 posted on 07/31/2012 3:34:11 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: publius911

Bravo, well spoken.


130 posted on 07/31/2012 3:36:26 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: hitchwolf
Sometimes I wonder why the ones who call themselves “Christian” always seem the least Christian like.

And sometimes I wonder why the its who deem themselves superior, feel arrogantly entitled to define Christianity.

131 posted on 07/31/2012 3:37:50 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: publius911

Yes. They are prone to hysteria and favor emotion over reason and basic irrefutable logic.


132 posted on 07/31/2012 3:40:26 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: SengirV

Where did the owner thank God for AIDS? I read the article twice and can’t find anything that backs up your claim that the owner is thanking God for AIDS. You so caught up in the moment you decided to lie?


133 posted on 07/31/2012 3:41:42 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: lastchance

I agree the rant seems contrived. However, if you were the B&B owner and someone wrote that rant and attributed it to you, and raised a ruckus, wouldn’t you contact law enforcement, have the IP traced, sue for libel and felony defamation? I am surprised the gays would risk this type of hoax exposure - but then they are known for their arrogance and their hoaxes...


134 posted on 07/31/2012 3:46:54 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

“I agree. She did a disservice to herself with the AIDS remark.”

Why is that?


135 posted on 07/31/2012 3:47:47 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: scottjewell
“The les should just have left well enough alone. But see they are militant now, gone is the live-and-let-live aura of their former years.”

Now its a new game “Lesbian Lotto” You pay your lawyer you take your chances.

136 posted on 07/31/2012 3:53:46 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: cuban leaf
I’m 58 and am already getting that “I’ve got nothing to lose” mindset.

Same vintage. Same mindset. Enough already.

@% of the population should not be dictating to the other 98% what moral truth is.

Especially when the 2% is in violation of God's Word.

137 posted on 07/31/2012 4:03:57 PM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: APatientMan

“I agree. She did a disservice to herself with the AIDS remark.”

“Why is that?”

Well, because even granting the truth contained in such a statement, it is the kind of remark that will automatically provoke the response of “bigotry”. Kind of like arguing with a fat person, and saying, “You fat slob”.

It may be true, but people would have less to complain about had the woman written back :

” I am sorry to hear that you will not be staying at my B&B. Of course you are entitled to your lifestyle just as I am entitled to my own views on it. I think if you really had wanted to give your son a treat, you might have put him as a child first, respected my right to post a Chick-Fil-A announcement, and given your son a wonderful time. As it is, you appear to have put yourself first. Best regards, Carole. - PS: Dykes are so gay.”


138 posted on 07/31/2012 4:05:56 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Polynikes

wow, great way of putting it! lol


139 posted on 07/31/2012 4:14:16 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

“it is the kind of remark that will automatically provoke the response of “bigotry”.”

Oh, my!


140 posted on 07/31/2012 4:18:23 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan

“it is the kind of remark that will automatically provoke the response of “bigotry”.”

“Oh, my!”

Yeah. Try entering litigation in the state of New Jersey (as the legal posters are implying this case may go there) and you might not want to seem bigoted before the courts. Not if you are trying to avoid legal fees and business penalties. I am sure your attitude would be different in that case.


141 posted on 07/31/2012 5:04:48 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

“I am sure your attitude would be different in that case.”

No.

This is worth watching, though. Let’s see.


142 posted on 07/31/2012 5:13:53 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan

Fair enough, but I am sure you would want your fees or financial penalties as small as possible. Yes, we will see what unfolds in this case. Cheers.


143 posted on 07/31/2012 5:18:51 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Louis Foxwell

Some words were, some were not. There is no basis for claiming AIDS is God’s punishment for homosexuality. We cannot know that. It is that kind of comment that crosses the line and makes reasonable Christians look like fools.
As I said, there were far more gracious ways to say what she said and not open the rest of us up to baseless criticism.
Jesus was always loving and gracious in pointing out sin, was He not?


144 posted on 07/31/2012 5:46:48 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Wiser now
Jesus was always loving and gracious in pointing out sin, was He not?

Jesus was never loving and gracious when pointing out sin. He referred to the temple leaders as a den of vipers. And more, he was uncompromising, judgemental and angry. Why preecisely do you think he was killed?

Your feminized Jesus is not found in scripture. Nor should it be found among his believers. The lady was precisely correct. The wages of sin is death. AIDS is a clear and distinct punishment for the ugliest and most vulgar form of sin, homosexuality.

145 posted on 07/31/2012 6:44:48 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: SengirV

Was that lie you told about what the lady said about AIDS an accident, or did you purposely tell the lie?


146 posted on 07/31/2012 6:54:39 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: antceecee

They can seek to shame them all they want. They clearly are not buyin’ it.

The guys on the liberal site I frequent try it with me. I drive them nuts when their usual tactics have no effect.


147 posted on 07/31/2012 6:55:03 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SengirV

I see others have noticed your statement too, And also that you haven’t apologised.

That’s unfortunate, it makes it seem as though the lie was deliberate. If so, people like you give Christianity a bad name.


148 posted on 07/31/2012 7:05:03 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Wiser now
Jesus was always loving and gracious in pointing out sin, was He not?

NO!

Remember the Temple incident, for starters?

149 posted on 07/31/2012 7:34:11 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: MrB

Ask her what the average lifespan is for a gay man. Last time I read about it the average lifespan for a gay male is in the 40’s.


150 posted on 07/31/2012 9:17:32 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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