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White House Differs with Romney on Jerusalem as Capital of Israel
CNSNews.com ^ | July 30, 2012 | By Fred Lucas

Posted on 07/30/2012 2:09:15 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch

Via CNSNews.com:

In what marks a decisive difference in the presidential campaign, one day after Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney called Jerusalem the capital of Israel, the White House asserted that Romney’s position was different from that of the Obama administration.

“Our view is that that is a different position than this administration holds. It’s the view of this administration that the capital should be determined in final status negotiations between parties,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters Monday.

“I would remind you that that is the position that has been held by previous administrations both Democratic and Republican. So, if Mr. Romney disagrees with that position, he is also disagreeing with positions taken by previous presidents like Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan,” Earnest added.

On Thursday, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney struggled during the afternoon press briefing to answer what the capital of Israel was, insisting reporters already knew the administration’s policy and that the policy was not changed. Hours later he issued a written answer, stating it will be negotiated between Israel and Palestine.


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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
0bama’s just throwing a bone to his terrorist friends,

..and campaign fundraisers

51 posted on 07/30/2012 2:38:41 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: CaptainKrunch
“Our view is that that is a different position than this administration holds. It’s the view of this administration that the capital should be determined in final status negotiations between parties,”

What parties? What they are apparently saying is that Israel is not a legitimate sovereign country. Why doesn't Obama just pull our ambassador and refuse to even recognize Israel? Is it because he needs the Jewish vote to win but after November of 2012 that is his plan?

52 posted on 07/30/2012 2:38:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: GraceG

That’s possible, but what percentage of Jewish people are they?


53 posted on 07/30/2012 2:39:41 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: jjotto
Barack Obama in 2008: ..any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel’s identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognized and defensible borders. Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided...

Best post on this thread
54 posted on 07/30/2012 2:40:35 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: MNlurker

I think it will be around 65%. I guess we’ll see.

I’m Catholic, and they were over 50% in 2008. I hope they wake the hell up too.


55 posted on 07/30/2012 2:41:30 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Good for Romney, then.


56 posted on 07/30/2012 2:41:45 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: CaptainKrunch
Israel, West need Romney in White House

Op-ed: Obama, who has repeatedly broken promises and sided with Islam, will do even more damage as second-term

In light of these statements, it is easy to understand why Obama chose to condemn the "disaster" of expanding a balcony in Gilo and the authorization of additional construction in Ramat Shlomo, just as it easy to explain his considerable efforts to force Israel to cede all its territorial assets – including those in the heart of its capital. These declarations can also explain his decision to "shred" George W. Bush's promise to Ariel Sharon regarding the settlement blocs.

Press Here

57 posted on 07/30/2012 2:42:10 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: CaptainKrunch

““I would remind you that that is the position that has been held by previous administrations both Democratic and Republican. So, if Mr. Romney disagrees with that position, he is also disagreeing with positions taken by previous presidents like Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan,” Earnest added.”

So?

Someone is finally taking the position Israel believes for once, thank goodness.


58 posted on 07/30/2012 2:42:20 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: ilovesarah2012

He probably thinks God is a bitter clinger.


59 posted on 07/30/2012 2:42:29 PM PDT by arderkrag (ABOs are Romneybot trolls. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Whatever the position of the Obama administration, it’s bound to change in about a week, when they’ll accuse Romney and his campaign of taking Carney and Obama’s words out of context.


60 posted on 07/30/2012 2:42:47 PM PDT by adorno
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To: 1010RD

What a hoot. I hope so too.


61 posted on 07/30/2012 2:44:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: CaptainKrunch
The question is not where Romney or Obama thinks it is. The question is where the Israelis think it is.
62 posted on 07/30/2012 2:44:20 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Running in circles and screaming is not a strategy.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Just FYI — I’m having trouble connecting to the WeaselZippers.us site right now. Through the links here, and through Google search for the site, or other stories. It is telling me that it “Cannot Connect”. I hope it’s just a temporary glitch... Maybe a DOS attack or something?


63 posted on 07/30/2012 2:44:39 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: CaptainKrunch; All

ALSO: Google Cache is reporting a 404 error whenever I try to open a cached copy of the site/page.


64 posted on 07/30/2012 2:45:36 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: uncbob

I think Romney just found his next ad.

Maybe O will consider that quote taken out of context too?


65 posted on 07/30/2012 2:45:45 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: CaptainKrunch

WORKING LINK - back at blogspot.com

http://weaselzippers.blogspot.com/2012/07/white-house-romney-is-wrong-jerusalem.html


66 posted on 07/30/2012 2:46:59 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: SandyInSeattle

“The question is not where Romney or Obama thinks it is. The question is where the Israelis think it is.”

Israel proclaimed Jerusalem as its capital in 1950


67 posted on 07/30/2012 2:49:44 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Sorry, Clinton was wrong, Reagan was wrong, Bush was wrong and now Obama is wrong.

Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Romney is right.


68 posted on 07/30/2012 2:49:51 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Maybe we should be asking the Obama Administration is they recognize Israel’s right to exist?


69 posted on 07/30/2012 2:49:51 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“This literally gives me chills. Does Dumbama know who he is messing with?”

Obama, like many before him through the centuries, is believing the lies of pride and ambition which are being whispered into his ear....but it always ends in the same way:

The Lord will have compassion on Jacob;
once again he will choose Israel
and will settle them in their own land.....

....How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!
You said in your heart,
“I will ascend to the heavens;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon.
I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.”
But you are brought down to the realm of the dead,
to the depths of the pit. Isaiah 14:1,12-14


70 posted on 07/30/2012 2:50:01 PM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: arderkrag

What is really disgusting is that the majority of American Jews will vote for Obama - again.


71 posted on 07/30/2012 2:53:57 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: opentalk

On the headline: first, who cares?

Second, what DOESN’T outrage the “Palestinians”?


72 posted on 07/30/2012 2:54:37 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: Jedidah

Glad to hear it — but I admit I’m surprised!


73 posted on 07/30/2012 2:56:39 PM PDT by maryz
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To: CaptainKrunch
A Tale of Two Presidential Campaigns and One Holy City

...Unlike the classic Dickens work, this week's presidential campaign was a tale of one city Jerusalem, and the different way it was handled by the two different campaigns, One handled it as if this was the age of foolishness, the other as the age of wisdom.

One refused to give its position on Israel’s capital publicly; the other stood in front of the panorama of the holy city over his shoulder and pronounced the city Israel’s capital. During Thursday’s daily press briefing White House Press Secretary Jay Carney wouldn’t answer a simple question and turned the Q & A session into something out of an Abbot and Costello routine:

Reporter: What city does this Administration consider to be the capital of Israel? Jerusalem or Tel Aviv? Jay

Carney: Um... I haven't had that question in a while. Our position has not changed. Can we, uh...

Reporter: What is the capital [of Israel]?

Jay Carney: You know our position.

Reporter: I don't. Lester Kinsolving, World Net Daily: No, no. She doesn't know, that's why she asked.

Carney: She does know.

Reporter: I don't

Kinsolving: She does not know. She just said that she does not know. I don't know.

Carney: We have long, lets not call on... Kinsolving: Tel Aviv or Jerusalem?

Carney: You know the answer to that.

Kinsolving: I don't know the answer. We don't know the answer. Could you just give us an answer? What do you recognize? What does the administration recognize?

Carney: Our position has not changed.

Kinsolving: What position?


74 posted on 07/30/2012 2:57:53 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: uncbob

I guess he’s “evolved”.


75 posted on 07/30/2012 2:58:06 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: CaptainKrunch

Romney just lost the Palestinian vote! /sarc?


76 posted on 07/30/2012 3:01:00 PM PDT by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

doesn’t US law recognize Jerusalem as the capitol?


77 posted on 07/30/2012 4:07:44 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Oh my goodness! You've got to read post #5
78 posted on 07/30/2012 4:13:32 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: CaptainKrunch; All
Folks Romney has done a Two-Fer the last two days...

1st by appealing to Jews ( many Democrats ) who in their gut know Israel is getting a short changed from our dear leader.

2nd, Poles, many who are here who are Jewish, as well as many Blue Collar Catholic's of Polish Decent (and recent immigrants) in WI, PA, MI and maybe even IL.

But he is not just pandering.

He is going their like he did @ the NAACP meeting and appeal to them unapologetically By believing in the right things, Liberty in a nutshell and standing by our Allies...This will catch on at some point, more important, their will be a buzz between those that have relatives their and the word will spread over here..

Good Job Governor, go around the Lib-Media...

79 posted on 07/30/2012 4:17:25 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: CaptainKrunch

Thje question is what IS the capital of israel. It IS jerusalem. Any future change as a result of negotiations is up to israel


80 posted on 07/30/2012 4:17:25 PM PDT by plain talk
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81 posted on 07/30/2012 4:19:05 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: CaptainKrunch

Is this the same White House that can’t prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Obama was born in the U S or A?


82 posted on 07/30/2012 4:38:24 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: opentalk
s'OK, the goathumpers won't vote for him anyway...
83 posted on 07/30/2012 4:52:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: taildragger

Romney has drawn blood on Obama again.


84 posted on 07/30/2012 4:53:40 PM PDT by AU72
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To: uncbob
“Barack Obama in 2008: ..any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel’s identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognized and defensible borders. Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided...”

Just another lie to get elected. There currently is a law on the books requiring the US Embassy to be moved to Jerusalem. Each President going back many occupants has signed an executive order periodically, in order to delay that move.

Romney has taken a stand that, if elected he will make that move. The Administration, led by Muslim sympathizers has taken a 190 degree turn from what has been American policy for many administrations.

85 posted on 07/30/2012 4:56:04 PM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: CaptainKrunch

And yet the vast majority of jews will claw over each other yet again just to say that they voted for obama again first....

Idiots. God bless the smart ones.


86 posted on 07/30/2012 4:57:08 PM PDT by JoshuaLawrenceChamberlain
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To: jjotto

Good find! So obamma agrees with Romney! Romney needs to bring this up!


87 posted on 07/30/2012 5:09:58 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: CaptainKrunch

The Obama White House trying to throw Israel under the bus again.


88 posted on 07/30/2012 5:11:24 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: EEGator

If he only gets 50%, we win. Anything less than 70% is a win in Florida.


89 posted on 07/30/2012 5:20:05 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Fledermaus

On Obama’s first day in office, one of the first phones call he made - as American leader was to Palestinian President.

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.422639


90 posted on 07/30/2012 5:23:59 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Correction = phone calls
91 posted on 07/30/2012 5:34:28 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Let’s hope he gets below those percentages on both instances.


92 posted on 07/30/2012 5:42:55 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: CaptainKrunch

Romney’s right and the dummies in the WH are wrong.....as they are on most (well, all) issues!


93 posted on 07/30/2012 6:17:10 PM PDT by LUV W (Never forget...WE have THEM surrounded! ~ Rush Limbaugh)
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To: CaptainKrunch
About freaking time this hit breaking news. The WH's refusal to admit that Jerusalem is Israel's capital happened Thursday.
94 posted on 07/30/2012 6:17:25 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: GeronL

Wikipedia does.


95 posted on 07/30/2012 6:42:27 PM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: CaptainKrunch
Mordor-on-the-Potomac is exposing it's true intentions:


96 posted on 07/30/2012 6:46:47 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: jjotto
Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided...

That would make a great part of a great campaign ad.

Have Carney stumbling and stalling, then Carney stating it will be negotiated between Israel and Palestine, then obama saying Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.

Then the announcer saying, "They don't seem to have any idea, do they? Not so great on foreign policty, are they?"

97 posted on 07/30/2012 7:22:08 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: jjotto
Shortly after his statement in 2008, he or his minions, backed off from that statement:

Obama Clarifies Remarks on Jerusalem

Updated 9:10 p.m. By Glenn Kessler

Facing criticism from Palestinians, Sen. Barack Obama acknowledged today (5 June 2008) that the status of Jerusalem will need to be negotiated in future peace talks, amending a statement earlier in the week that Jerusalem "must remain undivided."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/06/obama-backtracks-on-jerusalem.html

98 posted on 07/30/2012 7:40:07 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama 07/22/12: "we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence...")
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To: TexasCajun
"Senator Joe Lieberman just told Hannity the capital is Jerusalem."

Hahahahaha!!

99 posted on 07/30/2012 7:52:16 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch (Freedom is what's fair.)
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To: P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; blue-duncan
Luke 21: 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations:

and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled

100 posted on 07/30/2012 8:04:53 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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