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‘Dark Knight’ shooting suspect James Holmes claims amnesia
NY Daily News ^ | July 26th 2012

Posted on 07/29/2012 4:14:23 AM PDT by TeaPartyRules

Accused mass murderer James Holmes told jailhouse workers that he remains stumped about what landed him in a Colorado lockup, a jail staffer told the Daily News. “He claims he doesn’t know why he’s in jail,” the worker said Thursday. “He asked, ‘Why am I here?’”

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He claims that he doesn't remember anything, and now we find out he was under a psychiatrist's care.

Was he a guinea pig for any experimental drugs?

Aurora shooting suspect was under psychiatrist's care - Americas - World - The Independent

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aurora-shooting-suspect-was-under-psychiatrists-care-7984483.html

1 posted on 07/29/2012 4:14:33 AM PDT by TeaPartyRules
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To: TeaPartyRules

Can’t wait for them to grill his psyc doc


2 posted on 07/29/2012 4:16:18 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: TeaPartyRules

Ironic. Liberals have long claimed low IQ perpetrators, breakers of unpopular laws/rules (e.g., harsh actions for illegal aliens, etc.) or the ‘common man’ should somehow be exempt or deserve special consideration in review of their crimes or their race. I might add that this special consideration never seems to extend itself to conservatives or ‘rich’ people.

So what’s happening now is that a man who cannot be connected to any of the undeserving categories (rich, conservative, etc.) is claiming mental disability - amnesia.
He’s using their own foibles against them.


3 posted on 07/29/2012 4:20:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: TeaPartyRules

Stick a blow torch on his foot for about 30 seconds and see if he remembers.


4 posted on 07/29/2012 4:22:26 AM PDT by BRL
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To: TeaPartyRules

First step towards the insanity plea.... =.=


5 posted on 07/29/2012 4:23:44 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

neuroscience — the study of the brain, its 100 billion nerve cells, and the connections among those cells that control thought and action.

He’s got amnesia. He must know. What a crock. Show him his picture book, and the video of his foot prints of blood between the theater doos and his car.


6 posted on 07/29/2012 4:27:10 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: TeaPartyRules

Why be so kind to this animal.He should be decorating some lamp post or tree.


7 posted on 07/29/2012 4:31:23 AM PDT by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: TeaPartyRules

My,My,My.....James Holmes’ likely murders overshadow father Robert Holmes’ Libor testimony.

KingCast and Mortgage Movies remain pensive as James Holmes’ father,
Robert Holmes, is set to provide crippling info. on Libor & other
banking scandals.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/mymymyjames-holmes-likely-murders-overshadow-father-robert-holmes-libor-testimony/question-2829343/

Don’t know what this means really, but it seems weird at least.


8 posted on 07/29/2012 4:32:36 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: TeaPartyRules; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
Re: “Why... am I here?”

Five trillion dollar plus deficit since 2008? Deficit... what deficit?

9 posted on 07/29/2012 4:33:51 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: TeaPartyRules

You are there because the Left loves mass murderers.


10 posted on 07/29/2012 4:37:27 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri: USA - ALL THE WAY!)
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To: TeaPartyRules

Always amages me that “crazy” people never forget how to cash a check or feed their faces.


11 posted on 07/29/2012 4:39:44 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: TeaPartyRules

A person can be amnestic for all the events of a crime and still be able to participate in his defense. Amnesia does not render an individual incompetent to stand trial. A land mark case in this area can be found here: http://federal-circuits.vlex.com/vid/robert-wilson-united-states-america-36728352


12 posted on 07/29/2012 4:46:50 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: TeaPartyRules

Amnesia may seem like a plausible defense, I mean campaign strategy, for democrat politicians trying to get re-elected in November...


13 posted on 07/29/2012 4:55:03 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: TeaPartyRules
As horrible as this crime was we've got to recognize that this guy just might be....”might be”,I say;not “surely is”...desperately mentally ill.That is,suffering from a profound biological/physiological disorder of the brain.Perhaps schizophrenia,a devastating brain disorder that usually first manifests its symptoms in the mid teens to mid twenties and whose symptoms can build up gradually over time.
14 posted on 07/29/2012 5:03:20 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: TeaPartyRules

Well the rest of us will never forget that the orange-haired joker wannabe planned his murderous rampage for months.
He only wishes that it could be wiped from his memory and everyone else too.


15 posted on 07/29/2012 5:05:09 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: TeaPartyRules
‘Dark Knight’ shooting suspect James Holmes claims amnesia

He certainly remembered what he was there for at the time and followed his(?) plan exactly.

Guilt deflection FAIL...

16 posted on 07/29/2012 5:08:19 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: TeaPartyRules

Why do I have the creepiest feeling this whole thing started off as an elaborate “experiment” gone awry!?


17 posted on 07/29/2012 5:12:08 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: JamesA
Why be so kind to this animal.He should be decorating some lamp post or tree.
This is a case where I don't want the death penalty to be swift. I want him around to answer questions. It's unlikely there were others involved but if there were, a swift execution isn't in our best interests. We have plenty of time to kill this animal. Let's wait and see what he finally comes out with. (And I'm not talking about this amnesia BS.)
18 posted on 07/29/2012 5:13:36 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: sirchtruth

Because you’ve read too many mystery novels?


19 posted on 07/29/2012 5:14:28 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: ilovesarah2012

The Libor Testimony is likely disinformation or just a lie. It is back tracked to Sorcha Faal and everyone is running with it.

I will say that no one can claim without a doubt that James Holmes is the killer based on available public evidence.

There may be forensic evidence on him but he could be a drugged up stooge found in his car.

Gas Mask #2 guy could have killed the people.

I am wondering why more people aren’t dead. They were sitting down. He could have blown their heads off.

His psychiatrist once was in charge of Air Force physical care in Texas.


20 posted on 07/29/2012 5:17:19 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Bender2

A psychotic, homicidal, maniac with a high IQ committing his crimes with meticulous planning and premeditation. Joker has to dig deep into his bag of tricks to weasel out of this one.


21 posted on 07/29/2012 5:18:40 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: johniegrad
Because you’ve read too many mystery novels?

No, but I sure do listen to many Sherlock Holmes BBC dramatizations!

22 posted on 07/29/2012 5:20:09 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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Re: Joker has to dig deep into his bag of tricks to weasel out...

Yeah, but this Joker... has NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, the NYT and WaPo on his side--

23 posted on 07/29/2012 5:33:37 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: tflabo

I think he was under mind control. Look how strung out he looks. Compare his pic w/the guy who shot Giffords. Same deer-in-headlights strung out look. And this happens right before UN Guns Treaty was to be signed??Work of our own govt????


24 posted on 07/29/2012 5:35:23 AM PDT by dubyajam ("Life is Hard ... It's Even Harder When you're Stupid" --- John Wayne)
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To: TeaPartyRules

The Hillary defense?


25 posted on 07/29/2012 5:38:06 AM PDT by Jumpmaster (Defund the Left!)
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To: TeaPartyRules

> Was he a guinea pig for any experimental drugs?

Or mind-controlling micro-chips?


26 posted on 07/29/2012 5:40:53 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: TeaPartyRules

Spiritual possession?


27 posted on 07/29/2012 5:43:45 AM PDT by Raycpa
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What, now he thinks he's in a Three Stooges movie?

Just have Moe and Larry bonk him on the head with a hammer and he'll snap out of it. Can I suggest a 15 pound sledge hammer with a 36" handle wielded by a body builder cousin of one of the victims?


28 posted on 07/29/2012 5:51:03 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: TeaPartyRules

He could have been under some sort of mind control y”all. His dad was scheduled to testify against the bankers to Congress on that libor thingy


29 posted on 07/29/2012 6:00:44 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: TeaPartyRules
Alex Jones will go off on this as he has already mentioned it.
30 posted on 07/29/2012 6:16:34 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: TeaPartyRules
lawyer tricks, feh...
31 posted on 07/29/2012 6:26:39 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Gay State Conservative

This guy is not—IMO—a schizophrenic (I am a physician, but not a psychiatrist). Schizophrenics cannot plan like this guy did, nor could someone in the throes of this most serious mental illness do what he did in booby-trapping his apartment. Ted Kaczynski was not schizophrenic, nor was the Norwegian shooter Breivik. Perhaps borderline personality disorder or other diagnosis fits best. I would bet on drugs (legal and/or illegal) as being the main culprits with this dude’s descent into mental hell.


32 posted on 07/29/2012 6:32:46 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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Was he a guinea pig for any experimental drugs?

Who knows? Maybe. Maybe he's just a clever, high-IQ liar. And maybe he's a government "The Finders" type experiment.

How is the average American to find out. The judge has clamped down on information. And even if he didn't, there are no intrepid reporters who will investigate unless the CIA media guy that works in their press bureau directs them to look for a Tea Party angle.

33 posted on 07/29/2012 6:35:29 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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In such case, he should be taken out and put down, just like any other mad dog that has killed innocents. . .


34 posted on 07/29/2012 6:45:16 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Jumpmaster

exactly...and it worked for her


35 posted on 07/29/2012 6:55:46 AM PDT by xp38
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To: TeaPartyRules

Ehhh, if he doesn’t know why he is jail... how does he KNOW he is in jail?????????????????/


36 posted on 07/29/2012 7:32:43 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: shibumi

Woops.

He finally woke up.

Toldja he’d be freaked.


37 posted on 07/29/2012 7:37:50 AM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: dubyajam

Shhhhhh!


38 posted on 07/29/2012 7:40:48 AM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: TeaPartyRules

riiiight... more like a ploy his attorney told him to pull so he can claim an insanity defense.


39 posted on 07/29/2012 7:48:34 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: sirchtruth
"Why do I have the creepiest feeling this whole thing started off as an elaborate “experiment” gone awry!?"

That's my feeling also.

Cue Twilight zone music:

Maybe this shooting is a blessing in disguise.

Maybe the shooter had a brain chip implant and somehow the blue screen of death appeared. No one saw it. No one knew how to "Control/Alt/delete". Drugs seemed the only way to cover up the screw-up. The brain chip started functioning based on what the eyes saw on another computer screen. It became a chip to chip communication. Would-be shooter became more and more obsessed with computer games to the point he couldn't differentiate between reality and cyber world.

Question: If the government messed up with this particular brain chip implant, would they notify the public? Never mind, they sealed the files.
Would they stop chipping? nah, it creates jobs

oh, yeah, the blessing: Maybe this would stop chip experimentation and implantation. Yeah, I'm dreaming.

Where's my remote control? I need to switch channels.
ah! a commercial!

40 posted on 07/29/2012 7:59:35 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Pharmboy
Perhaps borderline personality disorder or other diagnosis fits best.

I think the clinical term is, "he is bat crap crazy".

I am sure drugs played a role in this monsters life, but there was something far worse going on inside this guys head.

41 posted on 07/29/2012 8:43:51 AM PDT by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: mnehring
more like a ploy his attorney told him to pull so he can claim an insanity defense

Well of course he's insane...

He should have rolled his $h*t in little balls and ate crayons!

42 posted on 07/29/2012 8:51:55 AM PDT by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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Yes...a reasonable comment, but I was trying to come up with a diagnosis that the shrinks for the defense will use. They must be specific, and go according to the DSM IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the APA).
43 posted on 07/29/2012 8:59:20 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: dubyajam

Fully agree. The amnesia fits right in with that idea also.


44 posted on 07/29/2012 9:04:20 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: tsowellfan

The pictures I saw of the bloody footprints did not lead from the theater doors to his car. One picture clearly showed the footprints leading up the sidewalk away from his car.

BTW, I too am a admirer of Thomas Sowell.


45 posted on 07/29/2012 9:09:24 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Salgak
In such case, he should be taken out and put down, just like any other mad dog that has killed innocents. . .

So you support "death panels" for those who suffer from serious,chronic,brain disorders? I have a (fairly,at least) serious,and chronic,heart disorder.Should I be put down too?

46 posted on 07/29/2012 9:12:07 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: TeaPartyRules

He must have remembered being there, because he wanted to know how the movie ended.


47 posted on 07/29/2012 9:40:01 AM PDT by pallis
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To: TeaPartyRules

He can claim anything he wants, and I will not be too concerned about it. He will not get out into society, ever. His only options are death penalty, the supermax prison in Colorado, or a mental institution. Probably the mental institution option seems better. But he will never be a free man any more than Charles Manson.


48 posted on 07/29/2012 9:53:36 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: TeaPartyRules
This would actually work, this Amnesia Defense.

Except for the months of preparation part.

That kinda kills his defense.

49 posted on 07/29/2012 10:03:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Resettozero; tsowellfan
"The pictures I saw of the bloody footprints did not lead from the theater doors to his car. One picture clearly showed the footprints leading up the sidewalk away from his car."

Those footprints belong to the victims. They ran out of that exit door. Police also took some of the victims in their squad cars so the prints could have been from a victim who was helped by police.

The shooter probably never saw any prints. He was most possibly in custody by then.

50 posted on 07/29/2012 10:31:20 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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