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Obama talks of limiting some gun use in wake of Colorado massacre
FoxNews ^ | July 25, 2012 | FoxNews

Posted on 07/25/2012 8:10:49 PM PDT by Innovative

President Obama has added his voice to the push for limits on Americans' gun use in the wake the massacre last week at a movie theater in Colorado.

Obama, speaking Wednesday evening to the National Urban League, affirmed his belief in Americans' right to own guns, but he singled out assault rifles as better suited for soldiers than civilians.

"I believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms," Obama said. "But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities."

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To: Innovative

How many of the daily black-on-black gun murders in Soetoro’s Chicago involve AK-47s?


51 posted on 07/25/2012 8:49:26 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: skeeter
The leftwing koo-koo base is p*ssed that the president hasn't taken full advantage of the Colorado tragedy to push their anti-2nd Amendment agenda. Obama is obviously in trouble with them, otherwise the last thing he'd do before the election is come down on the side of gun control.

The Left's base is truly pissed, and that's funny because any leftist pol would need to wait for a week or so for the whores in the media to do their magic and mold public opinion.

Of course, the press is running with this like crazy.

For Obama, the a gun ban works for him because it would help get his base in line. For Dem Congressmen, a proposed gun ban is a nightmare, but O won't have any trouble throwing them under the bus.

52 posted on 07/25/2012 8:50:05 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: musicman

Just A Reminder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJbmbhvwHPQ


53 posted on 07/25/2012 8:52:25 PM PDT by Chattering Class of 58
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To: Innovative

And more:

UN arms treaty takes shape, raising alarm among gun rights advocates

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/07/25/un-treaty-takes-shape-and-takes-aim-at-gun-owners/

“For a treaty to become U.S. law, two-thirds of the Senate must vote to ratify it. Still, experts told FoxNews.com that if the Obama administration signs on and the Senate does not expressly reject it, the treaty may later be enforceable in the United States as international “customary law” - absent a successful challenge based on the Constitution. “


54 posted on 07/25/2012 8:57:46 PM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Chattering Class of 58

Great video!!


55 posted on 07/25/2012 8:59:58 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SkyDancer

Of course! Just like in good old Chicago where everyone but the criminals have effectively been disarmed by the toughest gun control laws in the country.
It’s those bitter middle-americans who cling to guns and religion that need to be controlled because they just might defend themselves.
It is much less about guns than it is Control.


56 posted on 07/25/2012 9:06:43 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: Jay Redhawk

Humm

Keep that thought in reserve.

Its getting close


57 posted on 07/25/2012 9:09:38 PM PDT by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: musicman

Communists have killed how many? Maybe 150 million of their own citizens often by class warfare. I think Obama is proud to be of the same idiology. I am ashamed of him.


58 posted on 07/25/2012 9:10:58 PM PDT by MtnClimber (To the left wrong is right, down is up and backward is "Forward")
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To: Innovative; All

Well, well, well.

The builder of The Obama Rifles, commonly called Fast and Furious, (with all due credit to his significant somebody helper-builder AG Holder), is getting into Gun-Running in the Rockies too.

This has been a busy week for World Class Dictator Creepy Commie Kenyan Obama.

The UN has gotten promises from Obama that he will violate, again, the US Constitution by signing a UN Gun Control Agreement, and now The Rockies!

Wow! How does a loose-lipped Dictator find time to even have enemies?

Sign this, fly there, raise money from hated millionaires and billionaires, speak another sermon on Commune Amerika! Busy, busy, busy!

Yep. Obama perfected his gun-running with fast and furious.

I guess that is what Obama means when he says: “I want everybody to have a fair shot.”

Stupid me, I thought he was talking about a shot of Whiskey!


59 posted on 07/25/2012 9:16:14 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: MtnClimber

I can’t believe that in some polls, almost 48% AREN’T ashamed of him!!


60 posted on 07/25/2012 9:17:34 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Chattering Class of 58

How to stop a massacre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjH3ZMUks1o&feature=player_embedded


61 posted on 07/25/2012 9:19:01 PM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: musicman

Thanks! It is old, but man does hit hit the bullseye


62 posted on 07/25/2012 9:23:11 PM PDT by Chattering Class of 58
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To: stranger and pilgrim
“The president, however, suggested Wednesday that it “shouldn’t be controversial” to make the case that a “mentally unbalanced” person shouldn’t be able to get a gun so easily.”

And somebody on foodstamps should not be allowed to vote. Deal bro.

63 posted on 07/25/2012 9:24:17 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

How about some US Marshals and an arrest warrant instead.


64 posted on 07/25/2012 9:26:38 PM PDT by SirLurkedalot (My carry permit was issued in 1791.)
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To: Innovative
Hey Obama, here's an idea regarding limiting gun use: how about you declare that guns can't be used to shoot innocent people in cold-blooded mass murder? Why, you could even make that illegal!!

Wait, that's already illegal?!

65 posted on 07/25/2012 9:31:00 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Innovative

I don’t trust Romney any more than Obama on this issue. I do trust a Republican House and (hopefully) Senate to hold the line on 2A rights however. Not sure I trust the SCOTUS on the matter of another AWB either.


66 posted on 07/25/2012 9:40:24 PM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: JerseyDvl

Right - when they talk about gun control, it’s controlling those they can, decent Americans. They know they can’t disarm the street gangs because they don’t care about law. They can only prevent law abiding citizens from protecting themselves from those gangs, and the government.


67 posted on 07/25/2012 9:43:05 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: Sola Veritas
The “minute men” were the civilian militia or armed citizen military. Makes no sense if the very government that is to be subservient to the people should be better armed than the people the government is to serve and represent.

Liberal socialist believe that the second amendment only provides a right to hunting rifles. While we arm terrorist in Libya to over throw their corrupt government, Americans are to be left with single shot rifles and slingshots only after acquiring a permit (permission) from their government and next the UN!

68 posted on 07/25/2012 9:44:12 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: vmivol00
“Just wait until Obama’s second term... “

Yeah. In his first act he took Romney’s socialized healthcare plan and idea for an auto bailout.

Maybe in the 2nd term, he could use Romney’s assault weapons ban in Mass as a blueprint.

Come on now, this is about Obama.

Just go along with the GOP liberals, OK?

69 posted on 07/25/2012 9:45:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Someone needs to send the Kenyan ***hole a copy of the Bill of Rights.

Why?
Is he running out of toilet paper?
(That's what he'd do with it, don 'cha know.)
70 posted on 07/25/2012 9:54:17 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Obama hates Mexicans (Fast and Furious))
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To: Innovative

Nope they do belong in citizens hands. So we can take down crazies like this guy. Or anyone ele who poses an immediate threat to law abiding citizens.


71 posted on 07/25/2012 9:55:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: musicman

If Obama made that gesture at a publik skool they’d suspend or expel him.


72 posted on 07/25/2012 10:02:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: DocRock

In the great picture you posted, “The Founder’s Intent,” it appears that the Continental Army soldier on the lower right is wishing that he had an AK-47 at that moment. ;-)

[Little humor there. AR-15s are fine when kept clean. So are AK variants. I was issued M-16s, M-203s and several other weapons for duty for a few years. ...carried ‘em for at least 100s of miles and many, many days and nights...fired ‘em for many, many hours on ranges.]

And good point on “Founders’ Intent.”


73 posted on 07/25/2012 10:07:24 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Innovative

What an idiot our soldiers don’t use ak-47’s. Did he just elevate al-qada terrorist to the rank of Soldiers? Don’t look for the media to make hay out of this they are too busy still giggling about what newspapers Sarah Palin reads....

or wait I know because he intends to gut the DOD budgets to pay for more welfare give aways, what he means is our soldiers will be using the old AK-47’s that they collect on the battlefield

Obama is so out of touch it is scary.


74 posted on 07/25/2012 10:09:58 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (OBAMATAX is bad for your healthcare and bad for America.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Our Founding Fathers had just fought and beat the most powerful military in the world and the threat of another war was very real. 1812 anyone?

I'll go out on a limb here but It's reasonable to assume that they wanted the Militia armed with the finest weapons available.

75 posted on 07/25/2012 10:20:45 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Innovative

Samuel Williams.


76 posted on 07/25/2012 10:26:17 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Sola Veritas

Bingo. Give that man a cigar.


77 posted on 07/25/2012 10:32:48 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: JRandomFreeper

Excellent post/quote!


78 posted on 07/25/2012 10:38:13 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Innovative

First thing in my head when I saw this was Uncle Rahm and his famous crisis/waste comment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeA_kHHLow


79 posted on 07/25/2012 11:27:24 PM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: stranger and pilgrim
So, is Obama prepared to suggest that we make people’s mental health history a public record?

It'd be interesting to see what's in Obummer's own file.

He has abandonment issues from both his father AND mother running out on him.

He abused cocaine, pot, and who knows what other drugs.

He was indoctrinated as a child in antiAmerican rhetoric by socialists.

He's one screwed up nutcase venting against America.

80 posted on 07/25/2012 11:31:51 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: Innovative
"I believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms," Obama said. "But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities."

Because everyone knows that the Second Amendment was put in place to protect the peoples' right to hunt and target shoot.
/S

81 posted on 07/26/2012 12:31:02 AM PDT by RJL (There's no greed like the greed of a liberal politician buying votes with your money.)
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To: Innovative
The (cannot publish here all the foul words that come to mind) says;

Yeah, AK-47's are outdated. We should all have AK-103's. Or the -104.

Though I'd be perfectly willing to settle for semi-auto versions in the above, or semi-auto versions of M-14, or FN-FAL. A guy can only carry so much ammo...

Does anyone make a 'semi' version of the modernized Galil? (that would be nice!)

Just for hanging on the wall and admiring, of course.

But the guy wants "AK-47's "in the hands of soldiers?" Our own soldiers don't field that weapon. Hmmm, he thinks the old Soviet-bloc type soldiers, and the turd worlders should have them?

Whose side is this guy on? Those are the guys who should be disarmed. With those seized weapons passed out to U.S. citizenry. For wall hangings, of course. Mementos to peace, we could call them.

82 posted on 07/26/2012 12:42:46 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: SkyDancer
BINGO!

Shhh, we don't want to confuse people with the facts.

83 posted on 07/26/2012 12:50:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: BlueDragon
...commented before reading the thread. Interesting how many of us picked up on the same theme.

Soldiers. With AK's.

Not "our" guys, or hardly any soldiers of nations much aligned with us...

84 posted on 07/26/2012 12:51:08 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: Sacajaweau
The right to bear was officially recognized in England 500 years before that and was part of common law amongst many Europeans several hundred to a thousand years before that.

A right ever repressed by tyrants but always held by common man.

85 posted on 07/26/2012 1:07:18 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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To: Sacajaweau
The right to bear was officially recognized in England 500 years before that and was part of common law amongst many Europeans several hundred to a thousand years before that.

A right ever repressed by tyrants but always held by common man.

86 posted on 07/26/2012 1:07:36 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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To: Innovative

The AK-47 is used by the types of soldiers Obama approves of not by American soldiers. He is such a dope.


87 posted on 07/26/2012 2:32:54 AM PDT by elhombrelibre ("I'd rather be ruled by the Tea Party than the Democratic Party." Norman Podhoretz)
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To: Innovative

Man, he’s dumb. I can’t believe he would touch this issue with a 10 foot pole. Gun control, at least on the national scene, is SUCH a losing issue. Good luck with that, Barack.


88 posted on 07/26/2012 2:44:13 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: SkyDancer

“...illegal guns in the hands of street hoods that are doing all the killing...”

...illegal guns in the hands of his ‘sons’ that are doing the killing...


89 posted on 07/26/2012 3:01:19 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: muawiyah

“If somebody doesn’t like it he or she should go somewhere else!”

...back to Kenya, and yesterday would not be too soon...but take Reid, Schummer, Pelosi, Holder et al with you, please...


90 posted on 07/26/2012 3:06:23 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Innovative

Oh-Bah-Mah probably thinks that “the right to bear arms” has something to do with wearing sleeveless shirts.

That’s why TOTUS goes with him everywhere he goes.


91 posted on 07/26/2012 3:10:59 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: stranger and pilgrim
So, I (an FFL) will be able to check to see if my gun customer has ever been treated by a psychologist and that will be grounds for denying them their 2nd Amendment civil liberties?

I went to my doctor for a regular checkup the other day he spent an extra 10 minutes on the computer putting in all my info as per Obama Care law I asked only about the new computers in the exam room he stated he now has to register all info to the government he was not happy about it at all as was his nurse. The government will at a key stroke bring up all your medical records at will any item they deem can and will be used to prevent you from getting a CCW mark my words folks its coming. Lock and load.

92 posted on 07/26/2012 3:40:31 AM PDT by bikerman (Obama lied,economy died.)
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To: musicman

Going in to a firefight, Obama is the kind of idiot who would say, “Gee, I wish I’d brought less ammo.”


93 posted on 07/26/2012 4:23:43 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: Innovative

They can’t profile Jihadis, but they can profile gun owners.


94 posted on 07/26/2012 4:27:42 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: onedoug

Holmes couldn’t have pulled the shooting off on his own, he had to have help from the government. The government made sure that nobody could have a gun to shoot back with; in Obama’s words, “Someone Else Made That Happen!”


95 posted on 07/26/2012 4:33:29 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: Innovative
Obama talks of limiting some gun use in wake of Colorado massacre

Wanker.

96 posted on 07/26/2012 4:49:49 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Innovative; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE:”Obama, speaking Wednesday evening to the National Urban League, affirmed his belief in Americans’ right to own guns, but he singled out assault rifles as better suited for soldiers than civilians.
“I believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms,” Obama said. “But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities.

Obama throwing a bone to his progressive base so they can say (on MSNBC) that Obama has taken a better ‘position’ on this than Romney and attack Romney, as they did last night.

They were getting pretty frustrated waiting for this. Obama wants to play it both ways on guns as with the tax issue: Example : he says he wants to raise taxes ‘on the rich’ while saying he never raised taxes, (not technically true as there are taxes in Obama-care). Same with guns. He's not proposing any gun control laws :wink, wink.

97 posted on 07/26/2012 5:20:10 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obam-ney Care ))
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To: Innovative
mitt has vowed to sign an assault weapons ban on several occassions... you had better get a written agreement with him before you go thinking that mitt is any different than obama on the issue.

Do you know what the difference between mitt and obama is... on gun control? mitt has signed the worst anti Second Amendment legislation in the entire USA into law... and obama hasn't... yet!

LLS

98 posted on 07/26/2012 5:26:54 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Innovative
"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at"
--Bill Ayers (1970), quoted in New York Times, September 11, 2001:

Article: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1>
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"Dig It. First they killed those pigs [ie, rich people], then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"
-Weather Underground leader and wife of Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, referring to the Manson murders

Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=63512670-BF7C-42A0-B41D-5D0FB9E09C09
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Undercover agent Larry Grathwohl discusses the Weather Underground's post-revolution governing plans for the United States:

Larry Grathwohl:

"I asked, 'well what is going to happen to those people we can't reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?' and the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers. And when I say 'eliminate,' I mean 'kill.' Twenty-five million people. I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people. And they were dead serious."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ
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"It was at the Chicago home of [Bill] Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn that Obama, then an up-and-coming 'community organizer,' had his political coming out party in 1995. Not content with this rite of passage in Lefty World — where unrepentant terrorists are regarded as progressive luminaries, still working 'only to educate' — both Obamas tended to the relationship with the Ayers."
Article: The Company He Keeps:
Meet Obama’s circle: The same old America-hating Left
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YThjYTU1ZDBjNmQ2YzcwNzU1MmYwN2JiMWY0ZGI0NDA=&w=MA==

99 posted on 07/26/2012 5:28:44 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Innovative
"But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities"

I understand that the market price of a US legal, registered, full-auto AK-47 is $15-$20k. As a result, I'd guess that the number of homicides committed in the US with legal, registered full-auto AK-47s since 1986 is pretty close to zero.

Mikhail Kalashnikov designed the AK-47 in 1947, so there are newer and better designs in use throughout the world.

"AK-47s are very safe firearms that belong in the hands of collectors and gun enthusiasts" would be a statement that I would agree with.

100 posted on 07/26/2012 5:30:06 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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