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Colorado shooting suspect James Holmes appears dazed in court
Yahoo! ^ | By Jason Sickles,..

Posted on 07/23/2012 11:02:11 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

UPDATE: 11:30 a.m. ET: James Holmes, the suspect in the Colorado theater massacre, appeared in a Colorado courtroom on Monday. A judge advised Holmes of his Miranda rights, and that there was probable cause to continue to hold him without bond on suspicion of first-degree murder.

Holmes, who was transported from from a holding cell to the courtroom via an underground tunnel, appeared dazed: his brow furrowed, his eyes opening and closing often. His hair was dyed red. He did not speak.

Seated in a jury box next public defender Tamara Brady, Holmes never looked towards a gallery that included about two dozen victims and victims advocates.

The preliminary hearing lasted for about 11 minutes. Holmes' next court appearance is July 30.

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To: hummingbird; Mountain Mary

It (CO) is one of the 27 states whose involuntary treatment standard is based on a person’s “need for treatment” rather than only the person’s likelihood of being dangerous to self or others. “


151 posted on 07/23/2012 1:58:00 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: MD Expat in PA; Eureka_Lead
Are you talking about Holmes or the poster in # 56 or both!

BOTH!

152 posted on 07/23/2012 1:58:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

He looks like he had a long, late night with Bubba.


153 posted on 07/23/2012 2:01:18 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: TigersEye
Allah knows how jealousy works!


154 posted on 07/23/2012 2:03:55 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: dfwgator

Yes, that is the one.


155 posted on 07/23/2012 2:06:07 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: edpc

Excellent comparison if this want so horrible would be very funny


156 posted on 07/23/2012 2:11:22 PM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: Mountain Mary

Stuned is a hugh and series word...


157 posted on 07/23/2012 2:13:47 PM PDT by Chong
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To: Mountain Mary

Welcome to Free Republic.

Your sign in date relative to my sign in date makes you appear new. Plus it seemed you did not to know a very large piece of freeper lore. So I posted that to you. If you’re an old timer who has changed their screen name or if your original post was sarcasm on your part, I’m sorry. I must admit, it went right over my head.


158 posted on 07/23/2012 2:24:28 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: Responsibility2nd
Most people on this thread are overanalyzing the situation.

What you have here is a young man coming to the realization that he has thrown his life away and is facing a living hell for the remainder of his time on earth.

When he was planning these atrocities, no doubt he had delusions of grandeur. Maybe he thought he was going to become some sort of cult hero. He might even have envisioned escaping the scene of his crimes, at least temporarily, and watching the news unfold on a motel TV as he planned to drift across the country and melt away into the landscape.

Instead, he was caught almost immediately and slammed into a jail cell where he has had the entire weekend in isolation to think about what he has done and what lies ahead of him.

This is not the look of an insane or drugged man. This is the look of a man who now realizes he has done something horrible and will never take another free breath again. He will be locked up in a prison cell the rest of his life and that's not even the worst of it. He will need to watch his back at all times as his fellow inmates will want to hurt or kill him at the first opportunity. He won't even be able to take a bite of prison food without wondering whether somebody spit or peed in it or worse (and you know they will).

In short, it's all downhill from here for this wretched human being. With the deeds done, there is nothing good to look forward to in this lifetime. Nothing. This is the look of a man who is staring into the abyss.

159 posted on 07/23/2012 2:29:25 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Responsibility2nd
Mary - meet Al. Al - meet Mary.

LMAO!!!

160 posted on 07/23/2012 2:33:00 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Wurlitzer; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In cases like this, the best thing to do to stop copy cats in this infamous me...me...society is total cut off cameras, news, interviews, etc.

By taking the commercialism out of it, it will help cut the fame seekers at the knees. Close the courtroom to the public and even the artist! Allow only affected families to attend a quick trial, quick sentence, quick appeal and done inside six months.

Never to hear from or about the bastard will deprive him and deter others from obtaining there coveted prize, FAME!


161 posted on 07/23/2012 2:40:55 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: Ingtar

“I believe that he very much intended to survive.

I believe so, too. Perhaps he even thought that when the music started blaring in his apartment, someone would try to go in to turn it off, blowing up the apartment. Not only would it be a diversion from the theater, but they might also assume he had died in the apartment blast, allowing him to get away before they realized any connection.


162 posted on 07/23/2012 2:44:42 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: SamAdams76

He would probably do OK in prison, if he hadn’t killed a six-year-old girl.


163 posted on 07/23/2012 2:49:58 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: W.Lee

I have always wondered what part of your brain do you have to shut down in order to follow through with plans for mass murder. You can plan a project for anything. Somewhere along the way you change your mind and just not start your project. This POS didn’t change his mind. He followed through. How does someone do that?

One of the survivors asked a very good question from his hospital bed. Paraphrasing because I don’t have the exact quote, “What was it about your life that was so bad that you felt like you had to go kill innocent people?” Best question I’ve heard from this tragedy.


164 posted on 07/23/2012 2:58:28 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (I woulde)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Yeah, I saw the same thing “oh @#$@, what did I do “ ? As reality sets in.


165 posted on 07/23/2012 2:59:21 PM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: Mountain Mary

Here you go: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1162751/posts

You can even get a t-shirt if you are so inclined: http://www.cafepress.com/beeber_stuner

It happened about 4 years before you got here. There are a lot of inside jokes that date back many years, and if you are new (in a relative sense), they will go right over your head.


166 posted on 07/23/2012 3:01:00 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Dazed, mindless wandering, empty eyes - Oh, DEMOCRATS

Rip-off of Bob Hope’s line in the movie “Ghostchasers?”, replying to Richard Carlson’s comments on zombies.


167 posted on 07/23/2012 3:09:04 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Responsibility2nd

Carrot Top is INNOCENT. It was really Kathy Griffith in drag.


168 posted on 07/23/2012 3:10:45 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: hummingbird

,,,, I like the Texas idea ,,, but the anti-death penalty libs will claim the Col, DA was forum shopping .


169 posted on 07/23/2012 3:24:56 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: rarestia

DTs usually are very anxious and fidgeting. They literally can sit still. Also will have runny nose and eyes as well as a good case of diarrhea. I stand by my observation. He is an a stiff dose of antipsychotics.... And I think he probably is psychotic. That’s one that is really hard to fake


170 posted on 07/23/2012 3:41:44 PM PDT by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: edpc

Here you go. More efficient this way...

171 posted on 07/23/2012 3:59:50 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Venturer

First the police need to shove a baton way up in there and turn it awhile ..Just to keep him focused. Crazy ? Sure he is ..so what ?
Anything that insane needs to be promptly exterminated


172 posted on 07/23/2012 4:02:10 PM PDT by sonic109 (The 1st Revolution was about taxes ..the 2nd one will be also)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Jeez - who is his hero? Carrot Top?


173 posted on 07/23/2012 4:03:48 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (Scats for Newt!)
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To: nascarnation

Yeah I realized that about an hour ago while walking the dog. Face palm moment.


174 posted on 07/23/2012 4:05:27 PM PDT by xp38
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To: TigersEye
Could a schizophrenic exhibit such organization to plant bombs and booby traps, time loud music to attract somebody to the apartment with the intent of killing that person. And then plan the killing in the theatre?

I ask, not to pooh-pooh your knowledge, but to find out if this is possible with such people.

175 posted on 07/23/2012 4:23:33 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (Scats for Newt!)
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To: RedWhiteBlue

There were some early reports of a loud boom or explosion at the apartment before the shootings that no one called in. We’ll have to see what later reports say about it.


176 posted on 07/23/2012 4:27:52 PM PDT by Ingtar ("As the light begins to fade in the city on the hill")
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To: Responsibility2nd
Anyone else think he looks like his court-appointed lawyer?

Apart from the hair, of course.

177 posted on 07/23/2012 4:31:01 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: wrench

My take is that thankfully this guy was a lot less capable with firearms than the Norway shooter, or the death toll would have been a lot higher.


178 posted on 07/23/2012 4:55:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Yes, thanks.....I don’t have the software or know-how for that.


179 posted on 07/23/2012 5:01:11 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: BlueLancer

Oh, God, another flashback!


180 posted on 07/23/2012 6:34:13 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Eureka_Lead

So what liquid explosive do you favor in your trip wire bottle bombs...Nitro glycerin? Sheesh.

Still I do see some plausibility in your “programming comments” related to this killer. Something does smell about this case and the whole gestalt of its planning and execution; if not black ops, then perhaps something of a more darker order.


181 posted on 07/23/2012 6:44:05 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Not left wing! Not right wing! But....CHRIST WING!)
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To: 3catsanadog

I don’t really know the answer to that. I think it’s possible. This guy was very intelligent. I don’t know if schizophrenia wipes out intelligence or just twists it to irrational thoughts and acts through its delusions.


182 posted on 07/23/2012 8:04:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Nice hair.

Did Grimace and Mayor McCheese show up in the courtroom for moral support?


183 posted on 07/23/2012 9:27:38 PM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Nice hair.

Did Grimace and Mayor McCheese show up in the courtroom for moral support?


184 posted on 07/23/2012 9:27:43 PM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: Godzilla

Obviously you have no concept or idea on the obsessive compulsive nature of a mental illness. Not defending what he did. It has been shown men in the twenties get schizophrenia. I saw a video on FOX today where he spoke at a Science shingdig. he seemed very normal. From reports that have been simmering to the top, he had been planning this for months. Something in him snapped. What? We may never know. But the focus and determination can very well be part of the mental illness he suffers from. I do want to say what he did was heinous in every way. I do not condone what he did.

Wondering if anyone seen any similarities in the individual who shot Giffords with this one?

the leftist scum already jumping on the gun control/ban bandwagon is the same as it was when giffords was shot. Obama speaking to the victims and saying to be civil needs be insttutionalized and civilized himself.


185 posted on 07/23/2012 9:50:50 PM PDT by zaxtres
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To: Responsibility2nd

Absolutely no doubt in my mind, this young man is schizophrenic.

I know from experience, since my own brother is diagnosed schizophrenic. I have been with him to group sessions with other people who suffer from the same, and they ALL have these same mannerisms. It only took a few moments of watching that video too see it.

He is just about at the right age for onset, and early on in the disease, it can be mild at times, and severe at other times.

I’m not convinced this guy had any idea these were real people, in a real theater, or if he was in some type of mental video game. Schizophrenia is like that. My brother was convinced he was bugsy malone for half a year. It was not an act. As far as he was concerned, he was.

Someone knew he was ill, and he should have been treated. Many people do many evil acts, and this was a very evil act, but I’m not convinced it truly came from a lucid need to kill people. He is VERY ill.


186 posted on 07/24/2012 12:01:02 AM PDT by Steak
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To: SamAdams76

Totally agree. I saw horror in his eyes. That realization of “what have I done?”. Video games aren’t real life. Reality is knocking on his door. Playing the joker sounded like a good thing at the time for him when life was in disarray. World of Warcraft and role playing games might dominate one’s head and it can blur the lines of fact and fiction. Throw in a bit of developing mental illness and your take makes perfect sense.


187 posted on 07/24/2012 6:01:28 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore. We were duped.)
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To: 3catsanadog

The Unabomber comes to mind.

Moments of brilliance mixed with a gigantic bag of crazy


188 posted on 07/24/2012 6:25:03 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Mom MD

After looking through some stills and videos, I’m more inclined to believe your assessment. Also, detoxification looks different across different types of drugs. DTs from alcohol vs. DTs from narcotics, for instance, are quite different. However, given the vacant stare and the complete lack of affect, I think you’re right about the anti-psychs.


189 posted on 07/24/2012 7:23:08 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Eureka_Lead

I don’t think you wrong in what you see. I too see very similar things.

He wasn’t meant to survive and as a secondary thing I think this was done on the fly and not planned out and executed as a long term project. This was done to put new re-emphasis on eliminating the 2nd amendment once Fast and Furious was put on the hot seat in Congress.

The United Nations ATT treaty was supposed to be the final nail in the coffin of the 2nd amendment and to be done so with a minimum amount of publicity.


190 posted on 07/24/2012 8:45:25 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: I cannot think of a name
“Every liberal scumbag in Congress says they are “mainstream” and ‘middle of the road” and we are extremist.”

“Most times middle of the road and mainstream are code for “bat-sh@t crazy leftist.”

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Worth repeating.

I for one am SICK and TIRED of being labeled a “hater” or an “extremist” for having the moral and political perspective of the VAST majority of historically traditional Americans.

The Left may be gaining SOME new adherents among the young and dumb, the QueerMedia gullible and the ObamaParasites, but the NORMAL (conservative) mindset is what has dominated in this country throughout its magnificent, off-the charts, successful history.

191 posted on 07/24/2012 8:57:13 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: rarestia

Been doing this 30 years. :)


192 posted on 07/24/2012 11:46:24 AM PDT by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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