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It Was Shockingly Easy For The Batman Shooter To Buy A Massive Arsenal
Business Insider ^ | 07/21/2012 | Caroline Hedley, The Daily Telegraph

Posted on 07/21/2012 12:31:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Denver shooting suspect James Holmes purchased some 6,000 rounds of ammunition over the internet before carrying out hismassacre at a midnight screening of Batman.

The ammunition was part of a massive arsenal he gathered in the run-up to the killings, which also included four guns legally purchased at local gun shops.

His weapons were two Glock pistols, a 12-guage shotgun, and a high-powered AR-15 assault rifle fitted with a drum magazine allowing a fire rate of 50 to 60 rounds per minute.

Dan Oates, the chief of police in Aurora, Colorado, where Holmes killed 12 people and injured 58 others, said: ’He purchased four guns at local gun shops and through the internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of ammunition, more than 3,000 rounds of 0.223 ammunition for the assault rifle, 3,000 rounds of 0.40 caliber ammunition for the two Glocks in his possession, and 300 rounds for the 12 gauge shotgun.

“Also through the internet he purchased multiple magazines for the 0.223 caliber assault rifle including one 100-round drum magazine which was recovered from the scene.

“Even if it was semi-automatic I’m told by experts that with that drum magazine he could have got off 50 to 60 rounds within a minute. As far as we know it was a pretty rapid pace of fire in the theatre.

“My understanding is that all the weapons he possessed, he possessed legally and all the clips that he possessed, he possessed legally and all the ammunition he possessed, he possessed legally.”

Holmes is also believed to have joined a casual sex website where he apparently hinted at his plans for his killing spree, asking potential suitors: “Will you visit me in prison?”

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; batman; colorado; guncontrol; shooting
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To: silverleaf
My question still is WEAPONS TRAINING.

He HAD to have gotten it, at some point in his life

Another very good point. Where did he learn to shoot and reload? This whole thing points to a well-put-together operation. This guy is an operative. Where did he get the money to buy all of that ordnance with no real job? Hmmmmm???

21 posted on 07/21/2012 12:56:55 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Hodar; mylife; Grampa Dave; ASA Vet; U S Army EOD
Indeed....this suggests outside funding. We don't know yet the inventory of threats inside his apartment but whatever is discovered adds to the cost of his ongoing spree.

My.....what's the cost of a couple Glocks and an M-16 (heard various descriptions of this weapon) all the ammo and all the gear he purchased? Doubt that he got the bucks from dear old mom and dad for college. And all in 60 days??
22 posted on 07/21/2012 12:57:00 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (One out of three ain't good enough, Make November work.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No. It was shockingly easy to follow a script that had been done before, in other countries, in print, and, on screen.

That it is shockingly easy for Americans to run and NOT RUSH the shooter is discouraging. Then again, these people were sitting ducks...and unarmed to a man.


23 posted on 07/21/2012 1:00:52 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Bryanw92

Too many of us, Freepers, need to take some Coast Guard boating classes!


24 posted on 07/21/2012 1:00:59 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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To: bboop

You know, living in CO with a CCW I’ve thought about what would have happened had I been there.

I’m pretty sure the honest answer is either died or ran. If I had a shot and took it, it wouldn’t have worked. He was in all over body armor with a ballistic helmet. He wore a gas mask and was tossing out tear gas grenades. Honestly someone with even a top end CCW pistol would have had a very very slim chance at best. You don’t bring a pistol to a rifle fight, and you sure as hell don’t when the target is pistol proof.

This dirtbag really was just too well prepared.

But as to the original article- who cares if he had 6k rounds of ammo? I doubt he fired off more than 100 all told. The other 5900 are a moot point.

Purchasing 6k rounds is pretty moot for any given tactical situation unless you happen to be toting a minigun.


25 posted on 07/21/2012 1:04:02 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Bryanw92

Happened to you too, huh?


26 posted on 07/21/2012 1:06:01 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (This tagline for rent. Contact GeorgiaDawg32 for pricing and excellent financing options.)
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To: BIGLOOK

Two glocks and an AR15 is going to be around $2K


27 posted on 07/21/2012 1:06:06 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Not just to shoot and reload - but to do it in full body armor, in the dark, in a closed area saturated with tear gas, while masked!

Ask anyone with military training if this is an operation a first time gun shooter just up and does, managing to shoot 71 targets in the dark, with no training or range practice, with no dry run, based on reading directions from the manual or paying a video game


28 posted on 07/21/2012 1:06:44 PM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: SeekAndFind

29 posted on 07/21/2012 1:06:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Anyone hear about the Ft. Hood shooter lately? Murdered people several years ago in an action of domestic Islamic terrorism”

No, because as Mark Steyn pointed out, Allahu Akbar is Arabic for, “Move along, nothing to see here.”


30 posted on 07/21/2012 1:07:13 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

See #15


31 posted on 07/21/2012 1:08:23 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (This tagline for rent. Contact GeorgiaDawg32 for pricing and excellent financing options.)
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To: BIGLOOK

3K rounds of .223 will be about $1.5K
3K of 40SW will be another $1K


32 posted on 07/21/2012 1:09:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SeekAndFind

4 guns is a massive arsenal?


33 posted on 07/21/2012 1:09:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m assuming this writer is a Limey Tw@t. They (Limies) have no appreciation for the concept of 2nd Amendment rights.

OTOH, they’re probably still smarting from what a bunch of armed Scots-Irish did to them a couple on centuries ago.


34 posted on 07/21/2012 1:11:16 PM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: BIGLOOK

Glocks will run you maybe $600 each or so (might be less, I don’t price Glocks since I don’t like them) for the .40S&W pistols. A 12 gauge should be another $500 or so. The AR price could be all over the place. Last gun show I saw some as low as $800 (a bit under). Those large magazines run you around $100. 6K of ammo is going to be fairly expensive (I can get reloads for around $1800 for that many).

Let’s claim a ballpark of less than $5k.


35 posted on 07/21/2012 1:12:19 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: nonsporting
6,000 rounds is possibly adequate for a summar of training for a father and son. Given the fluctuation in ammo pricing thanks to O, one buys when the price is right. That reminds me: i am getting low on 5.56 NATO.

If one goes to the range once a week, and expends 100 rounds of ammo at each visit, then 6,000 rounds is a year's supply. There's lots of gun owners who have more.

36 posted on 07/21/2012 1:13:10 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Hodar

The punk could have charged it all with no intention of ever paying the bill.


37 posted on 07/21/2012 1:13:21 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SeekAndFind

If this guy had been a Mexican drug lord, our government would have GIVEN him the guns.

Then he could have shot 100 Mexicans (and a border agent) and the media would not just be silent, but cover it up.

Thus is life in Obamaland. We fear citizens and count terrorists as friends. :)


38 posted on 07/21/2012 1:16:41 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: cripplecreek
4 guns is a massive arsenal?

At some point they may start to describe his residence as a "compound".

39 posted on 07/21/2012 1:18:32 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Tried looking up the price of ammo to get an idea of what he spent. I got the following message:

Oops! Internet Explorer could not connect to www.bulkammo.com Try reloading: www.­bulkammo.­com/­rifle/­bulk-­.­223-­ammo

40 posted on 07/21/2012 1:20:20 PM PDT by Starstruck
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