Skip to comments.Auorora , Col shooting Press conference on now.Live
Posted on 07/20/2012 7:54:35 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
Press conference on Fox now..Live
colorado governor praise COMMUNITY.
Its our COMMUNITIES...NOT THE govt!
Purchased ammo on Internet...so much for a gun ban!
How does this get into Breaking News?
Ping the mods.
Hickenlooper was rambling incoherently.
I have no idea why it isnt in BREAKING...but I thank you for the thread..
thanks..I just wanted to get this on.
I saw that and felt sorry for him. I’ll chalk it up to a lack of sleep plus he was obviously emotionally drained.
What I don’t get is the non stop back slapping of their work.
Dan Oates is feeling his uniform oats. He hates civilians and urges them to report on their neighbors. Funny how in the old days the cops served the public, now they serve Janet Napolitano.
This is how America reacts! Community helping and rallying around...no need for more govt.
this police Dept has been excellant and professional.
Thank you for opsting the thread ;)
Guv and Chief praising the good job everybody did.
I don’t doubt everyone rose to the ocassion, but let’s be honest......... the shooter did his dead, the cops didn’t stop it.
Thank you for posting the thread ;)
He just thanked the coroner.
Can we get this into breaking news, please?
its the way to calm people...and they need that in colorado now more than we do.
Every single incident or event now, they mayor, police chief, a congressperson, city council members all stand in front of the cameras, telling all was a wonderful job they all did.
The chief is now telling all, how quick they were to respond!
I wish the Chief would stop saying “clips”..
So all the government officials and politicians standing in front of the cameras, telling all what a wonderful job they all did, is to calm the people in CO?
How did a guy on unemployment afford all the weapons and stuff to booby-trap his apartment? Someone said credit cards but I haven’t heard any verification.
That's putting it mildly - very disoriented, embarrassing.
this is one particularly devious pos.
That was amazing...
Who is the idiot speaking now? Just tuned in? I swear he is on drugs! Middle age man, blue button down shirt....absolutely incoherent!
Its all there is left to do. That and bury the dead.
It would be refreshing for at least one of them to admit to passing so many restrictive laws that they basically are keeping guns out of the hands of good, decent, law abiding folks that could have put a stop to this before it got near as bad as it did.
But of course the theater was a “gun free zone” so all the law abiding citizens left their piece at home or in the car. To bad the shooter didnt obey the law.
Everyone reacts differently to particularly stressful situations...add to that lack of sleep...add to that having to stay “politically correct” at every juncture....add to that hearing stories from cops on scene of seeing youngsters murdered....I am giving the Governor and the Chief of Police a pass!
Remind yourself of the song.......”Walk a mile in my shoes before you criticize................”
Yep, and the mayor this AM. All the polidiots, getting face time and out "concerning" each other.
Chief Oats did better, but he almost had to spit to not outright blame the Internet, being able to own firearms and ammo, and those damn "clips".
Watch live here
Ya see this now in every single incident and event nowadays.
The chief, they mayor, city council, the sheriff, the fire chief, animal control boss, the librarian, the district attorney....All waiting for camera face time, eager to tell all how good of job they all did.
Well — I am considered by a social worker to be a credible threat of violence since April 26 when she used the police power to take my grandchildren from my house which she said was an unsafe environment. Well tonight I think I added credibility to that — I baked a choclit cake that disappeared real quick among the four adults who live here—four adult neighbors (my son ,his “partner”? and the neighbor and her boyfriend.) and another young couple who came for a visit. Yup my cakes or brownies ( and not the hippie brownies neither) are legendary weapons of my trade. Like I told a fellow Vet at True Value — I can’t figure out WHY if somebody decides they want to go to hell they think they can take other folks with them? He agreed. Maybe he can greet Major Hasan if our Government can ever decide he needs to pay for his Murder and Jihad at Ft. Hood.
Aurora is a rough community; one FR commenter earlier said it is Colorado's Chicago. So a tough cop would seem very necessary to keep track of the bad guys.
Investigation news still restricted (motive, details on open emergency door). But all four guns legally bought. New info is the thousands of rounds of ammo he bought on the internet plus expanded magazines, including a rotary one, all legal.
Reporter after conference saying the Chief was totally out of character - usually very composed, formal, maybe brusque. At the end of this one he was very close to tears. The chief said that at 4 p.m. the police were briefing 70 members of families at a high school who still don't know the fate of their loved ones. In addition he said his officers have to cope with what they dealt with -- multiple bloody victims some dying in front of them, others hustled into police cars and driven to hospitals (70 victims hurt, not all from gunfire, but majority were) due to lack of ambulances. He said many officers will need counseling themselves.
Just look to Obama and you will get it.
“The crime rate in Aurora is considerably higher than the national average across all communities in America from the largest to the smallest, although at 35 crimes per one thousand residents, it is not among the communities with the very highest crime rate. The chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime in Aurora is 1 in 28. Based on FBI crime data, Aurora is not one of the safest communities in America. Relative to Colorado, Aurora has a crime rate that is higher than 85% of the state’s cities and towns of all sizes.
However, compared to other communities of similar population size, Aurora has a crime rate that is noticeably lower than the average. This means that for comparably sized cities all across America, Aurora is actually safer than most according to NeighborhoodScout’s exclusive analysis of FBI crime data.”
12 dead is a tragedy.
But it is a typical weekend in Chicago.
Ha! Spoke (wrote) too soon. Looking at the safe city rating, Aurora is 19 with 100 being the safest. The rating for the three cities in New Mexico I have lived in is 3, 6, and 6 with Santa Fe having 3 and Albuquerque a 6. My boss says I need to get a CCW permit - guess he's right.
Most of the people in the theatre were young people...
i wonder if this had happened in Georgia or Florida and there were older people or some former military soembody, a few guys, would have tackled him.
I have a CCW permit and use it for trips into Tucson. The city overall is fairly safe, but I’m usually traveling thru the liberal part - which is where all the crime is.
How he paid for it without a job.
Follow the money.
Where did he get explosive expertise to know how to rig his apartment?
boots, there have been so many conflicting and contradictory reports today on this, head is spinning. Starting to doubt what am thinking have read ... LOL.
He had a job as a research assistant, and his family is obviously pretty wealthy.
Students are still bombarded with credit card offers, I presume. His apartment was cheap.
Turns out his “tactical vest” cost $106.00, ordered on-line.
It took me 5 seconds on Google to find this page:
When I went back on business in the 70s, the "combat zone" had moved from Denver's Skiddy Street to East Colfax.
Now, I would be cautious about visiting the neighborhood of our 1960s church in Aurora -- much less messing around on Colfax at night...
University (where James Holmes was and just across the street from his apartment building) and Children's Hospital took over Fitzsimons Army Med Center some years after it closed. They've bulldozed a lot of the surrounding motels, trailer parks, business on the south side of Colfax just outside the campus. There are new businesses that have and are popping up. Still, the area of North Aurora, in general, is lower income and more crime.
There are a lot of events inside and outside of our family converging and we are strongly considering a move. Husband and I have lived in this area most of our lives--he since he was 1 and me since I was 7. It's taken me a long time to get to this point, but it seems like the stars are aligning. This event is just one more thing to spur us on. Still, lots of memories here and family so even if we move to another town in CO it's going to be kinda sad for me.
I think I heard there were three Military men in the audience.
(among the wounded) And if the Jihad at Ft. Hood is any example it seems risky to suppose a much different outcome.
IMO the root problem is we live in a society that has rejected for the most part it’s foundation as a Religious and Moral people.Rejected the idea that there are two forces that control a man those being the Bible or the bayonet.I suppose the shooter represents the current situation where the people are subjected to the fear of the police more than they are the instruction of the Sacred Writings
Folks, when posting, writing articles or calling/writing representatives and talk radio, please set the terms of this Colorado event as MASS MURDER and not ‘tragedy.’
It was not a force of nature, outside man’s control, but murder, facilitated and exacerbated by: gun-free zone policies, dilution of 2A rights, civility and courtesy in society, and entertainment that values more and perverse violence as art—which in turn influenced an already sick, warped mind.
It is quite literally a perfect demonstration of what happens to an unarmed society. It’s just that the murderer wasn’t LEO or military. The people sitting in a movie theater were fish in a barrel.
It is hard to second guess what I would have done or anyone in that situation. I certainly don’t want to do that with these victims.
However, our society is less and less focused on individual responsibility, responding to bad behaviors in the public sector, a sense of morality that is not “relative” and a mind set that is focused on “I will stand up for myself and my family and comminty!” Just look at the ‘discussion” about the right to stand your ground in the Zimmerman case.