Posted on 07/20/2012 6:33:20 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
... A reasonable country would have taken steps to curb these tragedies years ago. Strong federal gun control laws wouldn't stop every murder in the United States, but they would surely make it far more difficult to have a world where a 24-year-old can easily purchase assault-style rifles and shotguns and walk into a dark, crowded theater. (And no, arming more people wouldn't have saved the victims in this massacre - imagine how many more deaths there would have been with multiple people shooting in a dark, crowded theater.) But such is the strength of the gun lobby in Washington that members of Congress won't discuss, much less pass, any gun control legislation.
Our elected officials refuse to stand up to a powerful and dogmatic lobby that fails to distinguish between weapons of war (such as the AR-15 assault weapons the suspect reportedly purchased legally) and guns designed for hunting or self defense.
Until our leaders find the courage to do what's right, the massacres will keep happening. And that is the most senseless tragedy of all.
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(And no, arming more people wouldn’t have saved the victims in this massacre - imagine how many more deaths there would have been with multiple people shooting in a dark, crowded theater.)
Typical liberal “thinking”. Some armed citizens might have actually kept this from being a massacre.
Of course he legally purchased it. His only run-in with the police was a speeding ticket last year.
So, ban "assault weapons." Guess what? Get a 33 round magazine for your Glock handgun. Swap it out three times and you've got the same capacity that his AR-15 had. And, since he wasn't up against anyone concealed carrying (thanks, Cinemark!), he's got all the time in the world to reload.
Ooh, we can magazines above 10 rounds! Just like in '94! Except... there's the pesky little problem of pre-ban magazines. Are you going to turn legal owners into criminals, or 'grandfather' them in and understand that they will forever be available, albeit at a higher price than now?
What is your real solution, gun grabbing morons? Notice I'm not calling you liberal, because I took some pepto bismol and headed over to DU, and even they are (mostly) denouncing gun-grabbers. The issue is settled, and Americans, red and blue, agree - freedom has its costs.
By all means, when in a firefight, surrender. Fracking morons.
Samuel Williams.
You may notice my post, I'm (personally, do this at your own risk) trying something new. I'm inviting the new-age liberals on this issue to join us and turn it into a bipartisan pushback against the authoritarians of all political persuasions. There are a lot of pro-gun liberals out there who are denouncing this. Heck, see for yourself. In my opinion, the best way to stop this faux-outrage (remember, never let a good crisis go to waste) is to join forces against these retreads, Democrat and Republican alike.
GO BACK TO CANADA, PIERS! RETIRE ALREADY, BLOOMBERG! STFU, FAST EDDIE!
Some times shit happens. Ban guns, the bad guy brings a sword, ban swords, bad guy makes one from a board and glass slivers. The beat goes on and will go on until most ppeople regain self respect and respect for others. It will go on until most people will not tolerate such crime. A bunch of shop keepers and farmers put the James gang out of operation for keeps. A bunch of armed and innocent persons will some day have enough and put a stop to “it.”
Funny they do not mention the woman only parking lots in German Theaters because of rapes... but that is a “grab-a$$” San Francisco paper doing the editorial there.
I can easily imagine there would have been far less carnage. The author makes the mistake of assuming that since he is an incompetent coward, everyone else must be too.
“A reasonable country would have taken steps to curb these tragedies years ago. Strong federal gun control laws wouldn’t stop every murder in the United States”
They always couch it in “reasonable” terms but it’s NEVER reasonable.
Also, my guess is that “strong federal gun control laws” wouldn’t stop a single murder.
Barrage the competition of outlets printing this “logic” EVERYTIME you see it. Mock them relentlessly and question their journalistic integrity. Not that they have any.
MOCK, MOCK and MOCK MORE. They do not respond to reason or fact.
I worked in media for over a decade. Trust me. They hate mockery. Especially from ‘fellow’ journos. They blow a lot of it off, but it eats at them. I have in my past career, seen a few reporters spaz in the office after reading a letter to the ed mocking their coverage of some event.
MOCK THEM.
Did I really say Canada. I meant the other side of the pond :)
“A bunch of shop keepers and farmers put the James gang out of operation for keeps.”
Guess “when seconds count, the police are minutes away” is one of those timeless truisms...
The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. It has everything to do with keeping tyrannical government in check. Any arms issued to “military” should be equally available to the public.
A gun owning society is a secure society. But, ALL have to own guns. And carry them. And use them.
If only the moviegoers were armed, they would have killed the perp, but they were sitting ducks at his mercy.
A gunless utopia is not possible here. The culture is a warrior culture with individualistic and tribal mentality. So, the attempts at disarming the society will mean disarming of the lawabiding while the criminals are embolden.
The only solution is to predict and prevent the perps. The socio and psychopaths need to be profiled. There are less than 5% of these psychos in the population. There has to be active crime prevention program aimed at these.
My carry permit was issued in 1791
Citizens with no criminal record should be able, at will, to carry, concealed or open, any firearm they please, hand gun or long gun, anywhere they please without let or hindrance by government authorities.
When my body reaches ambient temperature then you may take my weapons.
Perhaps there would have been more; likely not though. In such a situation the movie-goer's eyes will likely be fairly well adapted to the low-light levels. But this is ignoring that these sort of people seek out no-gun zones, which this theater is due the theater-chain's policies, and that if the general population were armed then this area would likely not have happened.
I believe Norway would be considered a “reasonble” country by the libs. Didn’t stop that nut from killing five times as many young people on that island as in Aurora.
WHAT makes anyone think to ban guns would have kept this guy from getting guns illegally?
I am sure the gangs and all the chicago thugs buy ALL their guns legally. ha.
better yet, just wait and the govt will create another “Fast and F..d up” project and then we will make SURe the bad guys have plenty of guns!
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