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Penn State To Remove Paterno Statue This Weekend
WFAN ^ | 7-20-2012 | Kim Jones

Posted on 07/20/2012 11:12:53 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

NEW YORK (WFAN) – It seems the fate of Joe Paterno’s statue at Penn State has been sealed.

“Am told that Penn State plans to take down the Paterno statue this weekend,” Kim Jones of the NFL Network and WFAN reported via Twitter on Friday.

Paterno, fired by the university last year amid the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal, died in January. His legacy was further tarnished by a scathing report released last week by former FBI director Louis Freeh.

The Freeh report accused the former coach and other university officials of “repeatedly” concealing “critical facts relating to Sandusky’s child abuse” in order to avoid bad publicity.

Many have since called for the removal of Paterno’s likeness in front of Beaver Stadium. A banner even flew above Penn State this week with the message, “Take the statue down or we will.”

Sandusky was convicted in June on 45 of 48 counts of sexual abuse against 10 boys, some within PSU’s athletic facilities.

The Paterno family plans to launch its own investigation in the wake of the Freeh report.

“The announcement of the findings by the Freeh Group is yet another shocking turn of events in this crisis,” the family said in a statement Monday. “We are dismayed by, and vehemently disagree with, some of the conclusions and assertions and the process by which they were developed. Mr. Freeh presented his opinions and interpretations as if they were absolute facts. We believe numerous issues in the report, and his commentary, bear further review.

“Our interest has been and remains the uncovering of the truth.”


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1 posted on 07/20/2012 11:12:57 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

I doesn’t need to be taken down, it needs to be blown up.


2 posted on 07/20/2012 11:16:12 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Sir Napsalot

It has to happen. Paterno, through his willful ignorance, ruined the lives of many children and tarnished the reputation of a school and football program.

It remains to be seen whether there’s a confrontation between the people removing the statue and those misuided students/alumni who think that nothing is wrong.


3 posted on 07/20/2012 11:17:10 AM PDT by MplsSteve (General Mills is pro-gay marriage! Boycott their products!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
OOH-RAH!


4 posted on 07/20/2012 11:17:25 AM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Better have some security on-hand. The student body up there is delusional and prone to tantrums.


5 posted on 07/20/2012 11:18:40 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I hear that NAMBLA has expressed interest in obtaining the statue.


6 posted on 07/20/2012 11:19:00 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Sir Napsalot

Thought they’d do this. My next question is who in the NCAA knew this, heard the scuttle and did nothing as well—like report what they heard to police.


7 posted on 07/20/2012 11:19:50 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: glorgau
“Our interest has been and remains the uncovering of the truth.”

They'll be searching the same golf courses where OJ was looking for his wife's killer.

8 posted on 07/20/2012 11:22:07 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Tallguy

My guess is it’s going to end up staying for awhile. From what I’ve heard, there’s going to be a defensive effort (so to speak) that will make the Vietnam era look tame....


9 posted on 07/20/2012 11:22:10 AM PDT by E Rocc (November 2, 2010: The beginning of the end of the kleptocracy.)
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To: Tallguy

Yep, it could get ugly.


10 posted on 07/20/2012 11:22:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Sir Napsalot

Just install a rotating base underneath it. Tourists could make it ‘look the other way’.


11 posted on 07/20/2012 11:22:54 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

JoePa Could have done the honorable thing, by addressing the matter to the authorities when it was brought up. But, he continued to deny his involvement until his dying day. Screw you Joe Paterno and your piss poor legacy.


12 posted on 07/20/2012 11:26:27 AM PDT by erod (This Chicagoan will crawl over broken glass to vote the fake Chicagoan Obama out!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Until it is removed, I would be throwing lots of birdseed at it’s feet!

Let the pigeons cover it in appropriate comment.


13 posted on 07/20/2012 11:26:27 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: Sir Napsalot

What took the leadership(?) at Pedophile Sanctuary University so long to agree to do the obvious? By waiting so long to arrive at this conclusion indicates that the assigned leaders (they really aren’t leaders they are public relations specialist) at PSU still possess little or no empathy for the young innocent victims and still are seeking ways to salvage Paterno’s reputation. This is impossible to do. They may have finally been forced by public opinion (airplanes in the sky) into doing today what they should have done weeks ago.


14 posted on 07/20/2012 11:26:34 AM PDT by Saltmeat
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To: lacrew

LOL


15 posted on 07/20/2012 11:27:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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16 posted on 07/20/2012 11:29:35 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: E Rocc

All depends on whether the University really wants that statue down. They could use the student oppostion as an excuse to leave it up for a time. But anybody who has witnessed the PSU security thump students attempting to take down the goal posts after a big win (I know, it’s been awhile) knows that they don’t mind bloodying a few noses and using pepperspray.


17 posted on 07/20/2012 11:29:59 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: glorgau

I was thinking if they’d decided to let it stay up they’d then put up a statue of Sandusky, just to be consistent. But they did the right thing.

Pedo-State.

Sandusky: From Penn State to the State Pen.


18 posted on 07/20/2012 11:30:19 AM PDT by raccoonradio (")
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To: Sir Napsalot

Good move. Next they need to dismantle the football program.

But I expect the NCAA will do that.

But then again... there are millions of dollars at stake. And what’s a few sore buttholes anyway in contrast to the millions of dollars at stake, right?

/sarc


19 posted on 07/20/2012 11:31:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
"The Freeh report accused the former coach and other university officials of “repeatedly” concealing “critical facts relating to Sandusky’s child abuse” in order to avoid bad publicity. "

I've read this but no details. How did Paterno repeatedly conceal? Anyone got any reference?

20 posted on 07/20/2012 11:33:29 AM PDT by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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To: WKUHilltopper
My next question is who in the NCAA knew this, heard the scuttle and did nothing as well—like report what they heard to police

Bingo!

I know of no coaching positions offered to Sandusky from other universities after his early retirement from PSU. Leads me to believe there were a number of people at other institutions who had knowledge, yet said nothing.

21 posted on 07/20/2012 11:35:01 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: erod

You are spot on Sir. If Joe had called the cops, he would have been called a hero. The stink would have been bad, but not nearly as what happened.
Pride destroyed a great man. Now he will be cast into the darkness.
Sandusky should get the chair. All child molestors should. They take a little ones life, leaving a empty shell of a person.


22 posted on 07/20/2012 11:35:35 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: ex-snook

Their goal was to conceal all the facts. The fact is that by not going to the legal authorities they concealed the facts that they each knew. Once they became aware, then from that moment on the concealment was continuous.


23 posted on 07/20/2012 11:38:40 AM PDT by Saltmeat
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To: lacrew

BEST POST. LOL


24 posted on 07/20/2012 11:41:52 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Sir Napsalot

ZANES:

Bronze statues of Zeus, known as Zanes and paid for from fines for lying, bribery, and cheating, lined the route to the Olympic stadium.

By the fourth century, bronze statues of Zeus, known as Zanes and paid for from fines for lying, bribery, and cheating, lined the route to the Olympic stadium. Pausanias says the first six statues were established in the 98th Olympiad (388 B.C.) when the boxer Eupolos of Thessaly bribed his opponents. An inscription on the base of one of the first statues declares that “an Olympic victory is to be won not by money but by swiftness of foot or strength of body” (trans. S.G. Miller). Inscriptions on other bases similarly urge piety and warn against violations. In A.D. 93 an Alexandrian athlete who arrived late was expelled and fined for lying. He had claimed being delayed by weather when in fact he had been delayed by competing in prize games in Ionia. A fellow Alexandrian exposed his lie and was declared the victor without a fight. Lead curse tablets show that athletes even tried to hex rivals at Isthmia and elsewhere with pleas to underworld deities such as “let them not prevail in running.”

http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/olympics/olympia.html


25 posted on 07/20/2012 11:44:56 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Yep. Sandusky was the leading candidate for the Temple and Maryland coaching jobs and all of a sudden - POOF, he was dropped like a hot potato.

Things that make you go, Hmmmmmmmm.


26 posted on 07/20/2012 11:45:22 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: Sir Napsalot

I say leave it standing,

with a millstone tied round it’s neck.


27 posted on 07/20/2012 11:46:03 AM PDT by lack-of-trust
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To: Sir Napsalot
“Our interest has been and remains the uncovering of the truth.”

Ironic coming from members of the Paterno family.

28 posted on 07/20/2012 11:46:45 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: ex-snook
How did Paterno conceal?

Just one example is that he gave McQueary a job after McQueary gave a credible eye witness account of seeing Sandusky in the shower with a boy who looked about 10 years old with (not for the faint of heart) rhythmic sounds of wet bodies slapping together.

This was roughly a decade before these charges came to light.

If McQueary was NOT credible - why did Paterno give him a job? If McQueary was credible - then both he and Paterno witnessed, over the next DECADE, Sandusky parading around Penn State Campus with other young boys, going to banquets, and using his access to the Penn State athletic facilities as the “currency” with which he “groomed” his victims.

Paterno informed Sandusky of the eye witness account - but NOT actual authorities - allowing Sandusky to potentially silence the victim (who still has never been identified).

That is just ONE incident. The recent report also showed that this was the SECOND time (at least) that Paterno had credible reports of Sandusky victimizing young boys. It is also likely he knew of the janitor who saw the same thing McQueary did on a different date.

The report also showed that officials at Penn State were about to take what they knew to actual authorities - UNTIL they spoke with Paterno. Circumstantial - but quite damning.

Paterno is scum. Full stop. Winning football games does not ameliorate lessen or abrogate his complicity in child rape.

29 posted on 07/20/2012 11:50:07 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

Paterno was determined to die as the Penn State coach, he knew his predecessor would eventually uncover the truth....I think of an accountant who never goes on a vacation.


30 posted on 07/20/2012 11:53:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: ex-snook

“I’ve read this but no details. How did Paterno repeatedly conceal? Anyone got any reference?”

In the Freeh report there were copies of mulitple emails between the criminals about how to cover it up, how to avoid the bad publicity, how to bury it and maintain the university’s squeaky-clean status, etc.

One email referenced the idea that they may be culpable later on if the story ever became public. They chose to cover it up anyway.

Google can probably find the full report for you.


31 posted on 07/20/2012 11:53:41 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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To: lacrew
Just install a rotating base underneath it. Tourists could make it ‘look the other way’.

Wow. You've managed to sum up the whole situation with a bit of humor.
32 posted on 07/20/2012 11:54:38 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Sir Napsalot
I'm not a Penn State fan or a supporter of Joe Paterno, but I do not agree with the knee jerk reactions of many posters here or the Penn State administrators whose goal is to sweep this under the rug as fast as possible.

If you were to follow the entire Sandusky timeline, you would find that he was accused of similar sexual child abuse in the past, and was cleared of all charges. Although Joe Paterno did get him fired, the Penn State administration still allowed him “special” access to the sports facilities.

Run the timeline ahead several years and Joe gets a second hand report of Sandusky child sexual abuse from a student aide. He reports it to his superiors, and they sit on it. People (some here) decry his not going directly to the police, but what would they do, he was not a witness, and they had already been through all of this before – with Sandusky getting off. You must realize that during this time period, homosexuals were an uber protected class in State College – they could do no wrong.

If anyone is to blame for all of this it is the university administration who not only accepted the homosexual lifestyle with open arms, they promoted it with university (i.e. taxpayer and student fee) supported homosexual fairs. With all of this homosexual pressure placed on you, what would you do differently?????

33 posted on 07/20/2012 11:55:05 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: Responsibility2nd
Good move. Next they need to dismantle the football program. But I expect the NCAA will do that.

Running out of time if the NCAA or Big Ten are going to ban the team from play this year. My guess is that the sanctions will be announced after this season begins and will start with post-season play this year.

Frankly I think that the Big Ten should just kick PSU out and be done with it. But you've got that 100,000 seat stadium up there that just argues against it.

34 posted on 07/20/2012 11:56:35 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: lacrew

or put it back up with feet of clay...


35 posted on 07/20/2012 11:58:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sir Napsalot

1. What took the administation so long?
2. Are they afraid of the pigeons who idolize the one who enabled a pedophile?


36 posted on 07/20/2012 11:59:04 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I believe we’re going to find there was more than one child molester in high places at PSU. They are animals who run in packs.


37 posted on 07/20/2012 12:00:46 PM PDT by Crawdad
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To: ex-snook
I've read this but no details. How did Paterno repeatedly conceal? Anyone got any reference?

Every day that he didn't call the cops on a homosexual pedophile rapist who was walking freely around Paterno's beloved campus and Paterno's beloved football facilities was a coverup.

Paterno, being a grandfather, would have most likely done something if Sandusky was raping his grandchildren. But hey, if it's not his grandchildren, apparently in Paterno's world, it's no harm, no foul.
38 posted on 07/20/2012 12:02:17 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Sir Napsalot

Relegate them to division III and make them play all games on the road.


39 posted on 07/20/2012 12:03:00 PM PDT by tellw
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To: Sir Napsalot
The university could go a loooooong way to rehabilitating their image in the eyes of many, and openly redefining their priorities by melting it down and recasting a statue of PSU alum SEAL Lt. Michael Murphy...


40 posted on 07/20/2012 12:03:38 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: lack-of-trust
I say leave it standing,

with a millstone tied round it’s neck.


They could sell it to NAMBLA and give the proceeds to the rape victims. NAMBLA would be proud to have a statue of an enabler like Paterno. I'm sure all NAMBLA members would love to have somebody look the other way for years.
41 posted on 07/20/2012 12:04:47 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Sir Napsalot

The comments of so many here are so ignorant as to be worthy of the DU Hall of Fame.

JoPa was a fine man being besmirched by the same liberal trash MSM that so many here lament, but embrace in their current bottom feeding frenzy.

I am ashamed of all of you - JoPa was a great man & Penn St doing this simply greases the skids on what was a fine legacy.
Enjoy yourselves DUmmies!

I certainly will not look at any further responses here & I certainly will not contribute to any further alumni requests either.


42 posted on 07/20/2012 12:05:01 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Sir Napsalot
I propose that we should racer to Joe Paterno as Joe Patina since what you see in the outside is no representation of the inside.
43 posted on 07/20/2012 12:06:06 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Conservative_Rob
Run the timeline ahead several years and Joe gets a second hand report of Sandusky child sexual abuse from a student aide. He reports it to his superiors, and they sit on it. People (some here) decry his not going directly to the police, but what would they do, he was not a witness, and they had already been through all of this before – with Sandusky getting off. You must realize that during this time period, homosexuals were an uber protected class in State College – they could do no wrong.

If anyone is to blame for all of this it is the university administration who not only accepted the homosexual lifestyle with open arms, they promoted it with university (i.e. taxpayer and student fee) supported homosexual fairs. With all of this homosexual pressure placed on you, what would you do differently?????

Paterno may have thought he was in a tight-spot just as you describe it. The LGBT students at PSU had run the Lady Lions head basketball coach out of town a while back. Paterno was also keenly aware that Spanier and a minority of the Trustees wanted him to retire as far back as 2 previous contract negotiations. Spanier very much brought the alternative lifestyles to the fore at PSU. I could easily imagine Spanier using this homosexual community against Paterno -- unless Paterno was willing to splash some headlines and go out in a blaze of glory.

Even so, I can't excuse Paterno. And it should be noted that I don't know any of this for a fact. Just speculation on my part having gone to school there.

44 posted on 07/20/2012 12:06:55 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“The Paterno family plans to launch its own investigation in the wake of the Freeh report.”

“The Paterno Family?” Sounds like a crime syndicate. I guess in a perverse way it is!


45 posted on 07/20/2012 12:08:55 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387
“The Paterno Family?” Sounds like a crime syndicate. I guess in a perverse way it is!

I'd cut the family a little slack. They just found out that their recently deceased patriarch is alleged to have done some horrible things -- mostly by failing to live-up to his own moral code. They're having a hard time accepting it.

The only family member who might have been in a position to know was son, Jay Paterno -- who was on the coaching staff. But as SOB (Son of Boss) It's possible he was treated like a mushroom & kept out of the loop. Even if Jay got 'glimmers' he likely wouldn't have said anything to his sibblings, and certainly nothing to his mother, Sue Paterno.

46 posted on 07/20/2012 12:14:30 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

On the contrary, I think they should build two Paterno statues identical to the first, line them up and make one cover his eyes, one cover his ears, and one cover his mouth. Then engrave “See no Evil. Hear no Evil. Speak no Evil.” below them.


47 posted on 07/20/2012 12:16:47 PM PDT by apillar
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To: bill1952
The comments of so many here are so ignorant as to be worthy of the DU Hall of Fame. JoPa was a fine man being besmirched by the same liberal trash MSM that so many here lament, but embrace in their current bottom feeding frenzy.

"JoPa" was a huge a-hole. Read the internal penn state emails pal, I didn't get those from the MSM. He approved (or even encouraged) the more humane idea of not reporting Sandusky. (see the email)
48 posted on 07/20/2012 12:19:08 PM PDT by xenob
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To: Yorlik803

” If Joe had called the cops, he would have been called a hero.
Pride destroyed a great man. Now he will be cast into the darkness.”

Sorry to disagree with the second sentence. Greed and avarice destroyed a pipsqueak. Because you can coach a football team successfully, doesn’t make you a “great man.” Therein lies the fallacy in so-called “sports figures.” “Greatness” comes from personal character, not from any ability to teach someone with size 44 coveralls and a size four hat how to throw a ball. Or how to con a university out of a salary that goes well beyond reason. At the end of the day Joe Pa was just another grifter.


49 posted on 07/20/2012 12:20:52 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: SeaHawkFan

Make that refer.


50 posted on 07/20/2012 12:22:54 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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