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There is more in the article about the reaction of various Arizona politicos to Arpaio, but I thought the press release from Hawaii was worth posting.

I know it won't convert the true believers.

1 posted on 07/18/2012 6:27:18 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man

nope its a say nothing bunch of garbage by a dem hack....quoting the WP


2 posted on 07/18/2012 6:29:49 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Why dosn’t Hawaii make a meeting with Arpaio’s lead investigator and explain the discrepancies piece by piece.


3 posted on 07/18/2012 6:35:43 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Obama is a fraud CON. You know it, we know it, and everyone knows it. And the Hawaii government is corrupt.


4 posted on 07/18/2012 6:38:02 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: butterdezillion

I think you should respond to this article.


5 posted on 07/18/2012 6:39:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Tex-Con-Man

We also note that section 338-17.8 was not passed until 1982, so it cannot apply to President Obama, who was born at the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu in 1961, as is reflected on his certificate of live birth, a copy of which can be viewed on the White House website, a link to which is provided on DOH’s website.


So he is confirming that Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Kapiolani Hospital, eh? Then why did Kapiolani pull that fundraising letter when they started getting heat about it?


6 posted on 07/18/2012 6:42:33 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

I noticed that this clown did not address how easy it was to get a Hawaiian birf certificate in 1961. Specifically, the law that was in effect from 1955 to 1982. Zullo went over that Hawaiian statute in detail.


7 posted on 07/18/2012 6:45:57 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Tex-Con-Man

The more we learn about about that con, Obama it gets worse. He was put there not by the voters; but by Soros.


8 posted on 07/18/2012 6:47:19 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Dear Mr. Wisch,

Show us the microfilm.

Sincerely,
The American Public


9 posted on 07/18/2012 6:47:38 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Tex-Con-Man
The State of Hawaii will go down swinging defending this one. However, the real issue being covered up is the one of “Natural Born Citizen”.

How dang difficult is it for the “ones in the know” to realize, or understand the “Natural Born Citizen”. You know, a child born whose BOTH parents are Citizens at the time of said child's birth.

Although the BC from 0pansy is a fraudulent one (and very important), the BC is only a distraction over the NBC issue. Just my thoughts.

10 posted on 07/18/2012 6:48:22 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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Wisch can say all he wants but he’s not even authorized to see the records in question. When Wisch says that Obama’s birth certificate is “valid”, what birth certificate is he talking about, and how does he know whether it is or isn’t, if he hasn’t been allowed to see the record? Which law allows Wisch to say what is on Obama’s birth record? When Zullo spoke to Jill Nagamine (deputy AG) she said that they can’t say anything unless there is an official procedure for a qualified person to get a “verification”.

And the truth of the matter is that AZ SOS Ken Bennett filled out an official application for a verification of Obama’s true birth facts (DOB, gender, city of birth, island of birth, mother’s name, and father’s name). According to HI statute HRS 338-14.3 the DOH SHALL (mandatory, no wiggle room) issue a verification of the existence of a vital record AND anything that a qualified applicant requests to be verified pertaining to the vital event. The law stipulates that a verification is a certification that the vital even happened as described by the applicant. IOW, as long as the applicant provides birth facts to be verified that are on a legally valid vital record, the HDOH is REQUIRED to verify those as the true facts.

So what did Onaka do? He refused to verify Obama’s gender as male, DOB as Aug 4, 1961, city of birth as Honolulu, island of birth as Oahu, mother as Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, and father’s name as Barack Hussein Obama. According to the requirements of HRS 338-14.3 the only legal reason for him to refuse to verify those facts to a qualified applicant (which HI recognized Bennett as being by providing a verification of the existence of the birth record) is if they cannot say that the vital event really happened that way. Onaka verified that the claims on the posted long-form are what is claimed in their records, so the only reason left for Onaka to refuse to verify those facts is because the record they have is NOT LEGALLY VALID.

So Wisch can say all he wants with his unaccountable blowing out his rear, but Onaka has rules he has to follow, and when asked specifically whether Barack Hussein Obama II, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu on the island of Oahu to mother Stanley Ann Dunham Obama and father Barack Hussein Obama, and being required to say yes to any of those items which were true.... he refused to say yes to ANY of those items.

So there is our answer. Hawaii has spoken. The record they have for Obama is not legally valid, according to the only one qualified to answer that question, when subjected to the laws governing verification.

Furthermore, the HDOH has been caught 3 times now falsifying official records, so even with all the hedging around the HDOH did in the instances cited by Wisch, there is little reason to believe them, because they’ve already shown blatant willingness to falsify official records:

1. the 1960-64 birth index so that it includes legally non-valid records.

2. Virginia Sunahara’s database record, so that it didn’t show up under her name when queried. Whose name was her record under at that time, if not her own?

3. The HDOH altered Stig Waidelich’s BC# in a stunt coordinated with CNN. Here’s what I posted elsewhere regarding this latest falsification which I suspected long ago but which is now proven:

Interesting that you bring up CNN...

Based on what Verna Lee said, there is no way that Stig WAidelich was given a BC# 282 later than Gretchen Nordyke, who was born 28 minutes before him. For 282 people to be born in those 28 minutes would require a birth rate 336 times the birth rate in Honolulu for August of 1961.

The HDOH fabricated a BC# for Stig Waidelich to make it appear that BC#’s were not issued sequentially (in order to try to explain away Obama’s BC# discrepancy). And in order to get that false BC# out into the public they arranged a stunt with CNN, where CNN would focus on Stig Waidelich and have him order his BC and pick up the COLB straight from the HDOH office while the CNN cameras videotaped, including the BC#.

By about 6am the morning after that segment by Gary Tuchmann aired on CNN on April 25, 2011... an Obama supporter submitted a comment on my blog asking whether I had seen Stig Waidelich’s BC# and that it contradicted what I was saying about Obama’s BC# being a discrepancy.

That segment showing the BC# that was specifically fabricated by the HDOH for CNN cameras was re-aired on May 30th, when Mike Zullo was in Hawaii investigating the fraud surrounding Obama’s BC. That’s TWICE that CNN aired the stunt that they worked out with the HDOH in order to get FALSIFIED records into the public eye.

So when you mention CNN, they actually DID play a hand in a fabricated birth certificate: Stig Waidelich’s. With the help of the HDOH itself.

This is much, much bigger than Rathergate.


11 posted on 07/18/2012 6:48:22 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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What does ol’ Josh have to say about the multitude of layers in the PDF of the LFBC which should not be there; or the handwritten codes put into the BC form by the registrar that were tampered with and which, as a result of the tampering, contradict each other, etc?

That registrar, Ms. Lee, is still living, and was interviewed by the Cold Case Posse. She has seen how her document has been altered, and as I understand it, she is pissed!

I can see where Hawaii has gotten itself into a real bind. They started the cover-up some years ago, at the behest of Zero’s lawyers, thinking it was a minor detail and would never come up again.

So now they are stuck with their story and have to stonewall, because they can’t let anyone actually EXAMINE the ORIGINAL document which is in their archives; so they suggest that interested parties look at the LFBC on Obama’s website. IMHO, one will get just as much true information by examining a single square of Charmin toilet tissue!


12 posted on 07/18/2012 6:49:44 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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“President Obama was born in Honolulu, and his birth certificate is valid.”

Maybe it is valid. Maybe he was born in Honolulu.

Maybe it has the wrong Father on it.


19 posted on 07/18/2012 7:06:53 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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Ping


20 posted on 07/18/2012 7:16:22 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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Tuesday evening, officials from Hawaii responded to Arpaio’s allegations that their lax laws on birth certificates could pose a national security threat, saying the allegations “are untrue, misinformed, and misconstrue Hawaii law.”

Hawaii says "Who? Us? No way man!"

Obviously they are telling the truth. Everyone knows that if they were guilty they would admit it.

27 posted on 07/19/2012 1:50:47 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Tex-Con-Man; butterdezillion; Kenny Bunk; TheCipher; rolling_stone; freekitty; little jeremiah; ...
Joshua A. Wisch, Special Assistant to the Attorney General of Hawaii says, -

...We also note that section 338-17.8 was not passed until 1982, so it cannot apply to President Obama, who was born at the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu in 1961, as is reflected on his certificate of live birth, a copy of which can be viewed on the White House website, a link to which is provided on DOH’s website.


Actually, the Hawaiian 1982 law does apply Wisch. Section 338-17.8 states it retroactively as we see below when Hawaii was a Territory:

This part OBot Wisch -

"[§338-17.8]... Certificates for children born out of State. ... the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.... "

If that's not good for you the delusional OBots, here is the 1955 law that governed Barrack Obama alleged HI birth in 1961. Look and read closely at the highlighted box:



Hawaii 1955 Birth Cert Laws



Again, the HI statute that was in effect from 1955 to 1982.

"Section 57-9 Local registrar to prepare birth certificate.

(a) If neither parent as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate."

Amendments to the Hawaiian birth certificate can be made at any time in the future whether that it is 6 months after the alleged Hawaiian birth or it is 60 years after the alleged Hawaiian birth.



Tex-Con-Man - "I know it won't convert the true believers.

Hawaii is getting skewered here with the truth CON as we all can plainly see.

30 posted on 07/19/2012 2:52:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Sounds like a bunch of Wisch-ful thinking on the part of the Hawaiian Assistant to the AG:
Not only are Hawaii’s vital records some of the best managed, but they also have some of the strongest restrictions on access to prevent identity theft and fraud.

Maybe he can explain this story from just a couple of years ago:

Hawai'i ranks 6th in ID theft

Hawai'i has the sixth-worst record in the nation for identity theft and fraud, a new study shows

"Local businesses and even national businesses need to be aware that Honolulu ... has a substantially higher identity fraud rate," said Stephen Coggeshall, author of the report by San Diego-based ID Analytics Inc.

"The problem is growing and has been growing," added Chris Van Marter, Honolulu deputy prosecuting attorney and head of a white-collar crime unit. "The problem is going to get worse before it gets better."

link

37 posted on 07/19/2012 4:16:13 PM PDT by edge919
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I don’t think Sheriff Joe is going to like this- I can’t wait to hear his response to Hawaii

They were not even allowed access to PUBLIC records when they went down there- Everyone they encountered in Hawaii stood in their way at every turn.

Even the simple hospital registration book- which could have ended it right there- was kept from them.


40 posted on 07/19/2012 5:25:03 PM PDT by Mr. K (fat-fingers+small laptop keyboard+bad eyesight=many typos)
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