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Arpaio: Obama birth record 'definitely fraudulent'
Yahoo News ^ | 17 Jul 2012

Posted on 07/17/2012 7:06:21 PM PDT by mandaladon

PHOENIX (AP) — Investigators for an Arizona sheriff's volunteer posse have declared that President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent.

Members of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's posse said in March that there was probable cause that Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House in April 2011 was a computer-generated forgery.

Now, Arpaio says investigators are positive it's fraudulent.

Mike Zullo, the posse's chief investigator, said numeric codes on certain parts of the birth certificate indicate that those parts weren't filled out, yet those sections asking for the race of Obama's father and his field of work or study were completed.

Zullo said investigators previously didn't know the meaning of codes but that the codes were explained by a 95-year-old former state worker who signed the president's birth certificate. Zullo said a news reporter who has helped out in the probe let investigators listen in on an interview he concluded of the former state worker.

The Obama campaign declined to comment on Arpaio's allegations.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arpaio; birthcertificate; certifigate; impeach; naturalborncitizen; nullify; obam; obama; remove; sheriffjoe
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To: mandaladon
What happens now????

Vote the illegal guy out of office in November....

51 posted on 07/17/2012 8:14:23 PM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: sport

Well, whatever. I just might read a book or weed my garden. I’m going to be very disappointed if this isn’t discussed tomorrow, especially since Drudge had the guts to post it on his site. I would think that doing so would make it easier for conservative radio talk show hosts to bring it up.


52 posted on 07/17/2012 8:16:30 PM PDT by goldi
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To: mandaladon

Nothing because Obama is Lord of the ‘rats even though Obama himself twice admitted he was bon in Kenya, once even in writing.


53 posted on 07/17/2012 8:17:27 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: mandaladon; Seizethecarp; Danae; Ladysforest; GregNH; Brown Deer; Polarik; Hotlanta Mike; bgill; ...
Investigators for an Arizona sheriff's volunteer posse have declared that President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent.

Mike Zullo, in announcing today's press conference a couple of weeks ago, described the forthcoming announcement as shocking. Well, there's nothing here that's shocking to any of us who were fallowing this story from the time the image of the purported BC was posted on the Net by the White House in April 2011. We strongly suspected it was a fake all along and the Arpaio investigation said the same thing at the March press conference. So about the only thing shocking about today's announcement is that the AP did a story on it!

Back in the March press conference, IIRC, the Arpaio team also discussed the likelihood that Obama's draft registration card was a fake as well. Any update on that today?

54 posted on 07/17/2012 8:17:29 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Cicero

I have no problem with anyone seeing the truth and the wonderful job Joe did. It’s men like Joe that love America. Compare him to the two godless lying clowns who want to lead America - Joe stands out even the more.

But I know you understand about Drudge and his bias - I consider him a useful tool being used by an enemy of our voting process, Our Constitution and anything that is good.
If Joe had site like Drudge - he’d tell Romney ‘talk a walk, you MF’er’!


55 posted on 07/17/2012 8:20:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Or like the news here in New York city:

“Today it’s hot outside! Today it’s hot outside! Today it’s hot outside!”

and now for a commercial....

Now back to the news:

“It’s hot outside! It’s hot outside! It’s hot outside!”


56 posted on 07/17/2012 8:22:37 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: eeriegeno

>”Vote the illegal guy out of office in November”<

Sorry, you’re on the wrong Website.


57 posted on 07/17/2012 8:22:47 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Confucius say, short note better than long memory....)
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To: All

POLL Time...
•We want to know...
QuestionThoughts on Sheriff Arpaio talking about President Obama’s birth certificate?
Good thing
Waste of time


So far it’s...
Good thing
60%
Waste of time
39%

Poll here... http://www.abc15.com/subindex/about_us/as_seen_on#ixzz20x7ku9Li


58 posted on 07/17/2012 8:25:16 PM PDT by Orlando
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To: GVnana

Following their trip to Hawaii, the investigative team saw that national security implications were more compelling than whether Obama’s birth certificate was legitimate or not. Arpaio’s team found it was a false and modified document but that this matter now needs to be handled by Congress.

I had not read your story before. Perhaps if you set all the facts, including the who, what, when, and where of your story, it may be useful in the coming days to other investigators. Just a thought.


59 posted on 07/17/2012 8:26:08 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: justiceseeker93

I read cBS did a story and Drudge has it up.

Arpaio- “It’s A Fake”

http://drudgereport.com/


60 posted on 07/17/2012 8:31:11 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: goldi

Trust me, start listening to your classical music, you will avoid being disappointed and you will sleep better. Take care of yourself - they are taking care of their livelihood!

All their rant is bogus because they fold like a cheap suitcase when they need to.

America comes last to politicians as they what to secure their protection in the political world and entertainers/political talking heads know when to toe the line.

WeThePeople are on our own! And that includes Joe, Col Lakin and others.


61 posted on 07/17/2012 8:31:19 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Tau Food
However, impeachment by the House should be its second order of business in January, right after repeal of Obamacare.

After being defeated in a landslide in November, Obama will be busy destroying what remains of the country following his 4 years of executive destruction. Keeping him busy with an impeachment trial would definitely have some benefits. Will also let future foreigners know that they are not welcome to run for President.

62 posted on 07/17/2012 8:32:25 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: mandaladon
Does this make the good Sheriff a ‘birther’?

In the eyes of ann coulter, birter’s are morons. Will the lady with a forked tongue come out in a day or so and attempt to discredit all of this - not on the facts, of course, but because Joe's a ‘moron’?

63 posted on 07/17/2012 8:33:14 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Perhaps, you are if you think that! Nothing to kickass about you!


64 posted on 07/17/2012 8:35:02 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
Hey, Trump, are you listening because we know your boy Romney isn’t.

Can't speak for Trump ... it's virtually guaranteed conservative talk radio Rush, Hannity, et al., will studiously ignore the Sheriff Arpaio presser. Blow hard conservative talk show cowards that they are ...

65 posted on 07/17/2012 8:35:35 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: mandaladon

It is time for our so called “conservative” talk show hosts and authors to stop attacking “Birthers”...and start going after Obama on this issue

The same people whining about Romney “not being tough with Obama” are the same ones who refuse to go after Obama on the Birther issue

We have too many on our side directly helping Obama get re-elected. Its time to start going after Obama on the Birther issue

And, good work by Sherrif Joe. Good that someone is not going after Birthers...and going after Obama


66 posted on 07/17/2012 8:35:41 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Romney has foreign assets.....Obama has foreign birth certifcates)
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To: goldi
goldi,before it was announced that obama was going to run and get the Democrat nomination for President, the individuals that ran him and are now controlling him had a meeting with the main stream media, the Democrat Party big wigs, the Republican Party big wigs. They were informed about everything that there is/was to know about obama. they were also told not to go looking under any rocks. Also, soon after obama assumed power meetings were held between some talk show hosts and obama’s goons. Talk radio is used now more to keep the sheep pacified more than anything else.But that is neither here nor there. What to keep in mind is that from the day he declared his candidacy, three groups of people knew everything that there was to know about obama, down to the color and brand of toilet paper he used. The three groups? 1. The Democrat National Committee. 2. The Republican national Committee. 3. The main Stream media. All three groups spent their time and enegry on digging up dirt on Sarah Palin and back stabbing her instead of challenging obama.
67 posted on 07/17/2012 8:39:22 PM PDT by sport
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To: justiceseeker93

I know a lot of people knew it was fake. Frankly, I never felt I had the competence to form a firm opinion so I’ve always been kind of an agnostic about all of this. However, there now seems to be a consensus forming among the experts and I’ll be interested in seeing what happens next.


68 posted on 07/17/2012 8:39:35 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Will the lady with a forked tongue

And adam's apple.

She cannot make fun of liberals any longer. She has made a complete @ss out of herself. Watch for her in the subway with a tin can. Or hannity feeling sorry for her and saying she's a good American. Bunch of BS'ers!

69 posted on 07/17/2012 8:41:20 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
I was being facetious.

I'm an ABO guy that gets his butt kicked around here for saying so. LOL

If it isn't ABO, (which means Romney - shhhh), the only alternative is Hopey Changey, the Epilogue.

Unless there's a third choice... hmmmmmmmmmmmm

70 posted on 07/17/2012 8:41:46 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Confucius say, short note better than long memory....)
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To: mandaladon

Nothing will happen. The people who created the lie are in power now, and they have shown that they will do anything to stay in power. The only way to defeat them now is to go outside the bounds of their power, and take them out there. Chicago style street fighting has no rules, only winners and losers, and that is the fight we’re in right now. If you can’t stomach that, or wish to take the moral high ground, then in that case you have already lost. Sometimes you have to sink to your enemy’s level in order to defeat them, beat them on their own terms so to speak. It’s nasty and brutal, but effective.


71 posted on 07/17/2012 8:49:20 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: mandaladon

It would be nice to get to 70% ...Show support for SJ


Thoughts on Sheriff Arpaio talking about President Obama’s birth certificate?
Good thing
61%
Waste of time
38%
http://www.abc15.com/subindex/about_us/as_seen_on#ixzz20xEHW5dp


72 posted on 07/17/2012 8:49:20 PM PDT by Orlando
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To: mandaladon
Nothing.

This whole thing is a sad circus. I think it's time for Arpaio to retire.

73 posted on 07/17/2012 8:57:32 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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To: mandaladon

Gaining some “gravitas” if it shows up on Yahoo News via the AP.....


74 posted on 07/17/2012 9:01:28 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: sport

That’s it! I stopped listening to all of them awhile back, you could sense their manipulation with things they didn’t touch on, or made light of.

I said screw’m let them play their game on someone who could see through them. If they can’t be honest - don’t act like you are!! I hate dishonesty and especially when they claim to be a conservative and pull that Sh^^! Go into a different career where you can maintain your dignity instead of evil controlling you - but money comes before anything for most.

That’s why I respect Palin - she is so above any and all these clowns - political and otherwise. She is NOT for sale and cannot be controlled. Epitome of honesty and integrity. And she and her family suffered greatly because of it!


75 posted on 07/17/2012 9:02:01 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Tau Food

How about disqualify Obama from running again and give Barack and Mooshelle a nice vacation? I’m sure Mooshelle has had enough of Obama and the White House. Time to move on...

I’m sure the democrats could find another qualified candidate.....
Hey, come to think of it I think Jerry Brown would make a fine candidate.

Jerry will soon bankrupt California, way not give him a chance to do the same to the good ole USA.

Jerry Brown for President!


76 posted on 07/17/2012 9:03:29 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: mandaladon; All
Sheriff Joe is the only man who is willing to take on Obama on issue after issue, without fear. Please show your support of him by signing his petition HERE.


77 posted on 07/17/2012 9:05:32 PM PDT by montag813
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To: newzjunkey
This whole thing is a sad circus. I think it's time for Arpaio to retire.

Is he the imposter here? That's a sad comment for someone who did a great job and was interested in doing the right thing. And got lots of grief for it! Amazing how some expect so much feom one person and perhaps, nothing from who they vote for.

78 posted on 07/17/2012 9:08:27 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: mandaladon

For starters 0bama should avoid Maricopa County.


79 posted on 07/17/2012 9:12:23 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: justiceseeker93

It wasn’t shocking to us but it was shocking to Zullo. He was not at all interested in this issue until Corsi came for interview. Zullo explained in the presser that he initially didn’t think Corsi had anything and it took 16 hours of interview to convince Zullo there was enough to investigate.


80 posted on 07/17/2012 9:18:19 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("The cross opens its arms to the four winds; it is a signpost for free travelers." GK Chesterton)
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To: Tau Food

We are the experts, we are today’s journalists and historians. We must be, as the “professional” journalists and historians have already surrendered!

This story transcends the contemporary political atmosphere, it affects every State, and it discredits our federation. The full truth about this story must be disseminated.


81 posted on 07/17/2012 9:25:41 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
I was being facetious.

You were being a wiseass.

You have a problem with FR conservatives not supporting your maggot candidate - keep it to yourself - like STUFF IT!

A kickass conservative doesn't fold like a cheap suitcase and proclaim Romney is the nominee before it is FACT! Is it the end of August where you are or are you just too anxious to follow the leader bandwagon.

DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW!!

You are as conservative as Romney is! I know kickass conservatives and you are NOT ONE!! Wimp!

82 posted on 07/17/2012 9:26:58 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: mandaladon

Finally a petition we can all send to Congress on the eligibility issue!

http://www.wnd.com/wnd_petition/petition-urging-congress-to-investigate-obamas-eligibility/


83 posted on 07/17/2012 9:32:04 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: goldi

Ditto!


84 posted on 07/17/2012 9:46:44 PM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will rot your gut from the inside.)
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To: All

Now at...
Good thing
65%
Waste of time
34%


I hope the talk shows use this ammo


85 posted on 07/17/2012 9:46:50 PM PDT by Orlando
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To: GOPJ; All

“The press doesn’t care. They want to know if Zimmerman kissed a six year old girl when he was seven... and if Romeny wears magic underwear... You know, the important stuff.”

This comment from a poster on another board sums it up, perfectly:

It has been scientifically proven that a good percentage of people that have been conned will refuse to believe they’ve been conned, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Such is the need for people not to look foolish.

What we’re witnessing in many of the comments here are people that are willfully deaf, dumb and blind to the evidence that Barack Hussein Obama is a complete fraud. That he’s conned a good many people that will not only not admit they’ve been conned, but to save face, will dig in even deeper in support of the very man that conned them.

Sad but true. With the evidence staring them in their faces, they will not see it. They will not hear it. But they will condemn anyone who presents it. Such is human nature.”

These media people CAN’T admit they got conned. They would lose face, and that would damage them. Look at Oprah...


86 posted on 07/17/2012 9:49:19 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: goldi
Hannity, Rush, Levin and the other so-called conservatives better lead tomorrow with this story or I’m going to listen to classical music on my radio from now on.

Beck and THE BLAZE can't touch it...won't touch it?

Beck is on record on the radio and TV ridiculing 'Birthers' and Birther investigations.

I hope Beck comes out looking the fool on this issue. Beck was so smart...so above such nonsense.
87 posted on 07/17/2012 9:49:31 PM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: chatter4
This video proves that Obama’s Birth Certificate was altered before it was released to the public. It also proves that Obama’s attorneys and those in Hawaii that saw Obama’s Birth Certificate were well aware that what Obama posted, was not what they provided to him. On April 27, 2011, NBC reporter Savannah Guthrie took a picture of Obama’s Birth Certificate. That photo shows the document, at that time, said Obama was born in “Huwaii”. That misspelling was “corrected” before copies were released to the press and for downloading by the public.

OK, I'm not much of an investigator. Connect the dots for me on this one. They misspelled Hawaii. What does that mean besides a typo?

88 posted on 07/17/2012 9:52:56 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: goldi
Well now THE BLAZE has it up at almost Midnight 07-17/18...was not there earlier.

I guess some editor decided it's hard to ignore since the AP has filed a story on this, and the AP is the source for most of the news they tag TheBlaze/AP.

Let's listen in the morning to see how Beck will 'nuance' what he said before about 'Birther Fools' in light of this new info.
89 posted on 07/17/2012 9:58:51 PM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: mandaladon

bookmark


90 posted on 07/17/2012 10:03:55 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Texas Songwriter

Sheriff Arpaio should bring the information to a Grand Jury and get an indictment (.....)


Exactly. If the evidence is incontrovertible, it’s in their hands then and it’s more ammunition. I don’t think Congress would touch it, without something bigger than Sheriff Joe.

Unfortunately.


91 posted on 07/17/2012 10:04:22 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: CaptSkip

who cares what Beck thinks?


92 posted on 07/17/2012 10:07:55 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Tau Food

The will be a wide ranging war soon...takes the heat of of their hand picked man and sets up the world takeover coming soon.
We had better be prepared....guns, butter, and ammo.


93 posted on 07/17/2012 10:09:38 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: presently no screen name

He’s not being serious


94 posted on 07/17/2012 10:11:26 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: jpsb

Well true that...but Beck is reaching lots of folks...


95 posted on 07/17/2012 10:12:22 PM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: newzjunkey

Nothing? Wow, I must have watched a different presser then you. I heard enough to make me doubt Obama released BC is in fact a legal legit BC. Prior to today I was on the fence now I am a birther until I get creditable evidence to the contrary.


96 posted on 07/17/2012 10:17:35 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: presently no screen name
It's not up to a candidate for President to address this issue. We fought hard with Sarah Palin to get conservatives a victory in 2010. Thanks to Sarah Palin it happened.

It's up to elected officials to address this and many other issues which have been ignored. Those conservatives we elected (with the exception of a few including Congressman West and Michelle Bachmann) have forgotten their conservatism. We didn't hold their feet to the fire. Now they spit in our face and in the face of Sarah Palin.

There are consequences for this. People lose faith in candidates that call themselves “conservative” (even the ones who are authentic). If we fail to hold those we elected accountable we cannot blame republicans if they get behind a candidate that is not to our liking.

REPEAL SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER needs to be a required promise for ANY conservative running for Congress. He's the problem!

97 posted on 07/17/2012 10:18:06 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

There are two birth records in the paragraph you questioned...one is supposedly an original offered by Hawaii that you can observe on site. This is saying that media person Savannah Guthrie knows the word Hawaii is misspelled there...she saw it. The other one was put on the WH website and was said by them to be O’s BC. But the word Hawaii is spelled correctly.

Please re-read and notice the other point Arpaio made about indications parts of the supposed original were left blank of certain requested info about the father, but on the WH website one, that info is filled in.


98 posted on 07/17/2012 10:18:17 PM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: CaptSkip

I used to like Beck, but he turned on Palin, Newt, Paul just about everyone. He’s a lose cannon on the deck of a ship in heavy seas. No telling where he is going to roll next. Oh and I can not stand the lying puke face Pat Grey.


99 posted on 07/17/2012 10:22:47 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: jpsb
I used to like Beck, but he turned on Palin, Newt,

I suspect he was in the bag for Romney all along. The both put on their magic underwear one leg at a time.

He just didn't want you to think he was supporting Romney ONLY because they share the same religion. So, he decided to pretend to support another candidate but to assure his real candidate would win in the end he knew he'd have to choose the one least able to win in the primary.

I think the first one he supported was Michelle Bachmann (I could be mistaken about this one) but after she dropped out he decided to fake support for Rick Santorum.

100 posted on 07/17/2012 10:28:51 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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