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Florida Senior Shoots Thugs During Internet Cafe Robbery
gather.com ^ | 17 July, 2012 | Jim Kane

Posted on 07/17/2012 3:03:03 PM PDT by marktwain

Since the George Zimmerman shooting of Trayvon Martin, Sunshine State gun laws have come under scrutiny. But, Florida senior Samuel Williams, by shooting two goons during an Internet cafe robbery, has made a pretty good case for the right to carry concealed firearms.

Williams, 70, was minding his own business at the Palms Internet Cafe, in Marion County, when two thugs burst in, looking to rob the establishment. One of the suspects, 19-year-old Duwayne Henderson, brandished a gun, and the other guy was wielding a bat.

Of course, the other patrons were absolutely terrified. But, not Williams. When suspect Henderson turned his back, the Florida senior pulled a .380 semi-automatic gun, and started firing away at the crooks.

At this point, it looks like Williams, a licensed conceal carry owner, won't face any charges. Frankly, the man deserves a medal. If more law-abiding citizens owned firearms, and knew how to properly use them, there would be far less violence on the streets. Some people are predicting the Florida senior will now become a Second Amendment poster boy.

The statistics don't lie. The zip codes with the strictest gun laws, also have the highest numbers of rapes and murders. More firearms equals less crime.

Both of the suspects suffered minor gunshot wounds. You can view the amazing surveillance video here.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; duwaynehenderson; fl; florida; marioncounty; palmsinternetcafe; robber; samuelwilliams
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Video at the site.
1 posted on 07/17/2012 3:03:18 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
On another thread, some FReepers are already complaining that he put patrons in danger, that the robbers weren't really threatening anybody, that he's another George Zimmerman, etc. etc. etc.

In my opinion he did the right thing, and if everybody was willing to do the right thing there would be less hyperventilating and calling for the smelling salts when somebody does do the right thing.

I hope to goodness the DA doesn't charge him a la Zimmerman.

2 posted on 07/17/2012 3:07:17 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: marktwain
How long before Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton stage a protest???
3 posted on 07/17/2012 3:07:57 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: marktwain

That guy is cool as a cucumber. He needs to be a greeter at those Wal-Mart stores in Florida.


4 posted on 07/17/2012 3:10:43 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: marktwain

5 posted on 07/17/2012 3:11:37 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth again.)
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To: marktwain
That is what I call "Gun Control"

6 posted on 07/17/2012 3:18:01 PM PDT by Uriel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

If they are complaining, they are probably not Freepers.


7 posted on 07/17/2012 3:18:06 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: marktwain

“Duwayne”, indeed. Video not needed.......


8 posted on 07/17/2012 3:18:28 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: marktwain

They just showed it on the local TV news.

He did the right thing. You never know what is going to happen in such a situation but you can’t remove all risks from such an event.


9 posted on 07/17/2012 3:19:34 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: marktwain

The only thing wrong with this story is .380. Really? Get a .45 so there’s no question. Other than that, good shooting!


10 posted on 07/17/2012 3:21:13 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: marktwain
Under Florida law, a person is allowed to use deadly force if he or she fears death or serious injury to themselves or others. As long as the person isn’t committing a crime and is in a place where he or she has a right to be, they are considered to be acting within the law.

Well, then George Zimmerman walks.

11 posted on 07/17/2012 3:21:16 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: freekitty
Some of 'em have been here awhile.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2907665/posts

12 posted on 07/17/2012 3:23:00 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: marktwain

Good shooting Citizen. Civilization thanks you.


13 posted on 07/17/2012 3:26:45 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: marktwain

Poor caliber selection, excellent execution.


14 posted on 07/17/2012 3:27:37 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: saganite
Problem is, if you're going to the internet cafe in your shorts and T-shirt, you may well not carry the .45, and it's absolutely no use if it's home on the nightstand.

Even a small .45 is a heavy load in a pants pocket -- a .380 you won't even remember you have until you need it.

I can see both sides of this one, because I shot a rabid raccoon TWICE with a .380 -- it stopped him from charging at me, but it didn't incapacitate him. He ran away and I lost the trail at the creek (wet and hundreds of raccoon footprints). He wasn't going to live long in any event though (tremors and drooling).

On the other hand, I had the .380 in the back pocket of my jeans because I always have it there. I simply stepped out on our back deck to see what the funny noise was, and the so-and-so ran at me.

15 posted on 07/17/2012 3:32:04 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: marktwain
DIRECT LINK TO VIDEO HERE
16 posted on 07/17/2012 3:32:07 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I once shot a raccoon with a .45 auto. 3 shots all in the thorax and he still fought my dog for a minute of two. The coon was not rabid and they were hardball but a .45 isn’t always magic either.

I suspect if they had been hollow points or even 9mm HPs, the coon would have expired sooner.


17 posted on 07/17/2012 3:37:03 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: marktwain
Both punks play as innocent victims who are assaulted by evil old men...

Two men who attempted to hold up an Internet cafe were shot and injured by a patron of the business Friday night, according to the Marion County Sheriff's Office. Sheriff's officials said they got a call at 9:54 p.m. about an armed robbery at Palms Internet Cafe, 8444 SW State Road 200. When deputies arrived at the scene, patrons outside the business told them that two men in masks — one armed with a baseball bat and the other with a handgun — had barged into the business. The robbers told the approximately 30 patrons to get on the floor, and they demanded money.Officials said one of the patrons, Samuel Williams, drew his own handgun and shot

at the robbers, according to sheriff's officials.Both robbers began running toward the front door, and the patron fired several more shots as they fled.

The two men got into a car parked nearby and fled.

Not long afterward, deputies got a call about two men at a Marion Oaks residence who were telling people there that they had been shot while at Scott Carrigan Baseball Park on Southeast 17th Street in Ocala. Police Department officers went to the ball field but found no evidence of a shooting there, according to sheriff's officials.The two men were transported — one by helicopter — to Shands at the University of Florida in Gainesville. The Sheriff's Office identified them as Davis G. Dawkins and Duwayne Henderson, both 19. Dawkins has a Dunnellon address. His alleged accomplice has an Ocala address, officials said.Dawkins had a superficial wound in his left arm, but Henderson was shot in two places: his left buttock and his right hip

Locally, neither of the men have a criminal record, authorities said.

“I feel horrible. It doesn't feel good. It makes you think about life's decisions, and how you should live your life,” Henderson said in an interview with the Star-Banner at the jail on Saturday afternoon.Hours after his release from the hospital, Henderson, who talked about the pain he feels in his buttock and hip, said the plan was to “barge in, get the money and leave.” He said “he never expected anyone to be armed.”“The gun was broken and rusty and wasn't loaded. Nobody was going to get hurt,” he said, standing with crutches.

Retrieving the customers' phones was what he said was their “main priority.” That way, he said, the customers could not call law enforcement officials.Henderson theorizes the reason why he was caught off guard is because, when Dawkins entered the business, he busted a computer monitor with the baseball bat and “glass got into his face.”“He couldn't warn me,” Henderson said.

With the glass temporarily blinding his friend, Henderson noticed two women were behind the counter and he thought that was “fishy.” Turning around to see what the women were doing, Henderson said he was shot.“I turned around to run and my leg gave out. That was when I got shot. I hit the ground, and he was still shooting. I thought I was going to die,” Henderson said.Henderson said that, “by the grace of God,” his “leg came back.”

“I ran,” he said.

Henderson said he and Dawkins drove to a house to see a woman he said “is like a second mother” to him At the Marion Oaks residence in the 13000 block of Southwest 47th Terrace, deputies found what they believe was the getaway vehicle, a four-door black Nissan Sentra. The car was towed to the Sheriff's Office for processing.“I couldn't breathe. I had lost so much blood. I don't know what she did, but she revived me,” he said, likening the experience to coming back from the dead.The occupants inside the home called law enforcement, he said.

At the scene in Marion Oaks, a deputy and an evidence technician searched a large open grassy area across the street for evidence, which was collected and placed in brown paper bags.None of the residents or visitors there wanted to talk with a Star-Banner reporter.

At the Internet cafe, investigators collected a .45-caliber handgun they believe was carried by Henderson, which he confirmed in his interview.Henderson was charged with attempted robbery with a firearm and felony criminal mischief.

Interviewed at the hospital, Dawkins admitted to Detective Erik Dice that he took part in the robbery, according to sheriff's officials. The young man said he had the bat, which had been in his vehicle. Dawkins told the detective he was confronted by two people at the ball field and forced to assist in the robbery.Officials said Dawkins previously had worked for the cafe but had been fired.

He was arrested for attempted robbery with a firearm and felony criminal mischief and taken to the Marion County Jail. He declined to be interviewed by a reporter.Henderson said he met Dawkins through a mutual friend about four or five months ago, and that he usually hangs out at Dawkins' Dunnellon residence.Because Dawkins used to work at the cafe, Henderson said Dawkins told him there was “a lot of money there.” Both of them, he said, gathered the gun and bat for the robbery attempt.He said he went to Dawkins' place around 8 p.m. Friday night, where the plan was hatched.

Their actions frightened the customers at the Internet cafe.

“It was scary,” said Kristy Kuhn, a customer. “It wasn't my idea of a good Friday night.”

She said she had been sitting in the second row playing a game and heard loud noises and voices yelling, telling them to “put our wallets out and get on the ground,” Kuhn said.A few seconds after that, she heard gunshots. Kuhn said she hid underneath a desk.

Ruth and Neville Allison, also patrons of the Internet cafe, said they saw the incident unfold.

They said the robbers — one with a gun and the other with what looked like a bat wrapped in white tape — entered from the parking lot.The robber with the bat smashed one of the computers, the couple said. Then the robbers ordered everybody to get down on the ground and take out their wallets and whatever valuables they had.Williams — who declined to be interviewed — was sitting in the row nearest the door. He immediately took out his handgun, took aim and started firing, witnesses said.Neville Allison said the two robbers then tumbled out the door. The robber with the gun may have dropped his weapon, he said. Williams told Dice he was at the Internet cafe with his wife and was afraid the suspects were going to shoot somebody. He told the detective he was scared and that he began shooting at the men.Early Saturday morning, the business and its parking lot had been roped off with crime scene tape. Numbered evidence markers were outside next to sunglasses, a plastic bag and a blue bag.Also outside the Internet cafe and in front of neighboring businesses were numerous smaller markers to indicate drops of blood.

Inside the Internet cafe, a chair had been knocked over and a few more of the larger markers could be seen. The manager of the cafe declined to comment.Though Henderson said he doesn't blame Williams for shooting, he takes exception with Williams shooting at him while he was down.“I was down, and I'm not going to continue to shoot you,” he said.

UPDATE. The Internet cafe patron who shot and injured two men as they tried to rob the business will likely not face any criminal charges.“Based on what I have seen and what I know at this time, I don’t anticipate filing any charges,” said Bill Gladson of the State Attorney’s Office.Gladson said he has reviewed the security surveillance video from the cafe. While he still awaits final reports from the Marion County Sheriff’s Office, he said the shooting appeared justified.Samuel Williams, 71, who fired the shots, has a concealed weapons permit, according to the Sheriff’s Office. Under Florida law, a person is allowed to use deadly force if he or she fears death or serious injury to themselves or others. As long as the person isn’t committing a crime and is in a place where he or she has a right to be, they are considered to be acting within the law.Williams, who lives in Ocala, could not be reached for comment on Monday. But at least one of his 30 fellow patrons at the cafe wants to thank him.“I think he is wonderful. If he wouldn’t have been there, there could have been some innocent people shot,” said Mary Beach.

Beach was sitting in with her back to the door Friday night and didn’t realize what was happening until she heard shots.

“I heard pop, pop; then pop, pop, pop, all at once,” she said. “In the confusion I never really got to see his (Williams) face.”

Surveillance video of the incident was released on Monday by the Sheriff’s Office. It shows two masked men entering the Palms Internet Cafe, 8444 SW State Road 200, just before 10 p.m. Friday. One of the men had a gun.Williams was seated toward the back of the cafe dressed in a white shirt, shorts and baseball cap.

One of the masked men, identified as Duwayne Henderson, 19, comes in pointing a handgun at customers. The second man, Davis Dawkins, 19, is seen swinging a bat at something off screen, which was later identified as a $1,200 computer screen.As Henderson turns his back, Williams pulls out a .380-caliber semi-automatic handgun, stands from his chair, takes two steps, nearly drops to one knee, and fires two shots at Henderson, who bolts for the front door.Williams takes several more steps toward the door and continues firing as Henderson and Dawkins fall over one another trying to exit the building. The two eventually run off screen.Both men were shot by Williams. Their wounds were not life-threatening. Each was arrested hours later and charged with attempted armed robbery with a firearm and felony criminal mischief.

Henderson remained in the Marion County Jail late Monday in lieu of a $31,000 bond. Dawkins was released Sunday after posting an $11,000 bond.Internet cafes are regulated by the state. They offer sweepstakes entries, which are used to buy time on computer terminals that simulate casino-style games. The operations, which have sprung up around the county
18 posted on 07/17/2012 3:40:01 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: AnAmericanMother
On another thread, some FReepers are already complaining that he put patrons in danger, that the robbers weren't really threatening anybody, that he's another George Zimmerman, etc. etc. etc.

The only patron that appeared to be in danger was that woman who plodded right past the gunfire, hands over her ears. It made me wonder if she understood what was taking place around her.

19 posted on 07/17/2012 3:42:48 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: saganite
My .380 is as large as I can carry without printing.

It's to get me to my battle rifle.

The .38 snubby that grandad carried when he preached has saved my life 5 times, loaded with snakeshot.

/johnny

20 posted on 07/17/2012 3:52:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Charles Martel
She obviously had no idea.

But I don't think she was ever in the line of fire, so long as she didn't suddenly jump to her left. The old guy was very concentrated and had a good Weaver stance. And the robber's gun was pointed at him, even though the robber's attention was diverted.

Looks like a good shoot to me, and the DA seems to agree.

The slimeball's argument that he was down and therefore no threat is bogus. Plenty of people have been shot by a wounded felon returning fire. You keep on shooting until you're sure the threat is over.

21 posted on 07/17/2012 3:52:27 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: yarddog
I suspect if they had been hollow points or even 9mm HPs

FMJ is for ranges.

My carry .380 has frangibles for everyday use.

/johnny

22 posted on 07/17/2012 3:54:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: AnAmericanMother

You’re right. I was prepared to fault the guy until someone reminded me that shooting a running target while running was pretty impressive shooting.

I think the only one at risk were the bad guys. God Bless that concerned citizen. We need more like him!


23 posted on 07/17/2012 3:54:58 PM PDT by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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To: saganite
"The only thing wrong with this story is .380. Really? Get a .45 so there’s no question. Other than that, good shooting!"

Got that right. Girlfriend and I were just discussing that very thing. We both pack Glock 30's (.45 ACP); kickass little beasties. Those assholes would NOT have crawled, run away. They'd be pushing up daisies while donning Trayvon t-shirts by now.

24 posted on 07/17/2012 4:05:59 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: RightOnline

If you don’t mind my asking, how does she carry without printing?


25 posted on 07/17/2012 4:11:02 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
They're nuts, at about 24 seconds in the video the guy in the hoodie (can I say hoodie or am I a radist) swings his weapon at Williams. I suppose Williams could be criticized for firing as they fled. Here in Illinois they'd charge you for that, along with a felony for the concealed weapon. What's a few more dead Chicagoians after all, they should use their home computers.
26 posted on 07/17/2012 4:19:48 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Re my post, I went to the other thread and no one was contending that they weren’t a threat. Tactical criticisms, like the proximity of patrons, not sure I can determine that from the video though his line of fire lookes clear to me, and firing as they fled, a crime many places since the threat has ended, are legitimate.


27 posted on 07/17/2012 4:25:05 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: SJackson
Some comments on that thread: the old guy "escalated it", the robbers weren't threatening anyone, they ran away and he shouldn't have shot again, etc.

I disagree that the threat is ended just because the goblins are headed for the door. If the guy still has a gun (he dropped it, but Williams may not have seen that) he can shoot while running away. And while his partner had a bat, he might also have a gun.

Under the circumstances, I think the shot fired at the door was understandable. You have two guys doing a lot of moving around, and you don't know if they're scrambling to their feet to run away or to return fire, especially if they turn while getting to their feet.

And if you hold your fire and you are wrong, they could kill you. I'm not giving them that courtesy when they started it.

28 posted on 07/17/2012 4:37:28 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: marktwain

“....19-year-old Duwayne Henderson....”

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I see your Trayvon and raise you a Duwayne.


29 posted on 07/17/2012 4:48:36 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: elkfersupper

C’mon you guys, give him a break.

James Bond used a .380 and nobody said anything about the caliber. It’s also known as 9mm Kurz.

James Bond was a pussy compared to this guy — he never had to face Trayvons and Duwaynes.


30 posted on 07/17/2012 5:00:23 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

Actually in the Bond novels, he uses a .32 caliber PPK after M took his .25 caliber Beretta away from him.


31 posted on 07/17/2012 5:03:55 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: AnAmericanMother

You are correct. And, furthermore, we need to get over the guilt of some guy getting shot or dying during the commission of a violent crime. Perps need to know that people are armed and willing to defend themselves and others. Don’t come in to a place with a weapon and try to rob people. If you get shot, tough.

It is not the responsibility of government to provide perps with a safe environment in which to prey on other people.


32 posted on 07/17/2012 5:04:32 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: yarddog

Them were the good old days when criminals were brought down with a .25.

Now they warn CHL holders that even 9mm+P hollow point does not do the job. You can’t trust anyone these days.


33 posted on 07/17/2012 5:11:14 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

Somebody get the Reverend Sharpton and the Reverend Jackson on the line.


34 posted on 07/17/2012 5:18:27 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: 353FMG
James Bond was a pussy compared to this guy — he never had to face Trayvons and Duwaynes.

Yeah, but he did have to deal with Goldfinger, Odd Jobs, and Poussy Galore! That's got to count for something.

35 posted on 07/17/2012 5:18:50 PM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: Uri’el-2012

That is to friggin sweet!

Next time headshots please!


36 posted on 07/17/2012 5:35:00 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: 353FMG

One of the first high quality guns I bought when I was young was a Browning Hi-Power. I got it in 1969. At that time it was hard to find much performance ammo. The local hardware stores carried only 115 and 124 grain fmj bullets.

I did buy a few boxes of Super Vel 90 grain JHPs. I still have a partial box somewhere around. It may have been the hottest commercial load ever. I had the unpleasant job of putting down several diseased dogs.

I wanted to do it humanely and used those little 90 grain buzz bombs. I have never seen anything perform like that even including .44 magnums. The poor dogs were dead when they hit the ground. They didn’t even twitch or move. Those bullets must have done massive internal damage.

I suspect they would have been an effective load for protection against human thugs.


37 posted on 07/17/2012 5:36:35 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Mr. Wright

“Somebody get the Reverend Sharpton and the Reverend Jackson on the line.”

I’m sure those two worthless slugs were sniffing around long before this hit the “media”.


38 posted on 07/17/2012 5:41:09 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: AnAmericanMother
She obviously had no idea. But I don't think she was ever in the line of fire, so long as she didn't suddenly jump to her left. The old guy was very concentrated and had a good Weaver stance. And the robber's gun was pointed at him, even though the robber's attention was diverted.

Yep, I liked the way Williams did the fire-and-advance thing, several times. I wonder if there's some training in his past, beyond the usual CCW stuff.

As for the bystander, I was more concerned that she'd walk into a gunshot fired at Williams by the fleeing perp. She's lucky that the old fellow kept the heat on them hard, compelling the armed thug to retreat rather than shoot it out.

39 posted on 07/17/2012 5:41:50 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Mr. Wright
Somebody get the Reverend Sharpton and the Reverend Jackson on the line.

You can bet that Benjamin Crump or one of his associates chased these ambulances. No doubt in my mind.

40 posted on 07/17/2012 5:44:26 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: marktwain

Duwayne got the Du-bang.

Bump.


41 posted on 07/17/2012 5:48:11 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: yarddog

Ah, I remember the Browning Hi-Power. You could get the beautiful engraved version for the outrageously high price of $155!!!!

Back in 1960 I bought my first gun from a newspaper ad. It was an Argentinian Luger for $40. It even had a grip safety. All matching parts except for two.

Oh America, how I miss you.


42 posted on 07/17/2012 5:52:52 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Dallas59

“The gun was broken and rusty and wasn’t loaded. Nobody was going to get hurt,” he said, standing with crutches.”

Oh, Duwayne, poor baby. Shame on us for not realizing that. If the president had a son, he would look like Trayvon, but do you think, perhaps, he might act like you? Just askin’.


43 posted on 07/17/2012 5:52:56 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I didn’t see much about Williams escalating things on that thread. Don’t disagree with your comments, you’re right about the risk about not firing on someone armed in flight, he can turn quickly and effectively. And that action could place you in legal jeopardy in many states. Probably better to keep comments on the other thread there. I might not have fired while they fled, but I don’t have any problems with your assessment of the situation or Williams.


44 posted on 07/17/2012 5:53:07 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: elkfersupper

For an elderly man who probably has a little arthritis in his hands, a 380 isn’t a bad choice. I used to have no problem with my 10 mm, but I’ve thought seriously about dropping down to a 9 mm or 380 because of arthritis. I dropped from a 300 WM to a 325 WSM for an elk rifle for the same reason, arthritis in my shoulder, and I’m only 58. I think the old guy made a wise choice.


45 posted on 07/17/2012 5:58:02 PM PDT by pallis
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To: yarddog
Actually in the Bond novels, he uses a .32 caliber PPK after M took his .25 caliber Beretta away from him.

Correctamundo, for the most part (the Walther made its first appearance in the fifth novel). And remember that Bond was "the best shot in the Service," and that he had used the Beretta successfully for more than 15 years before having it taken away (due to it getting stuck in his pants, with a silencer on it, at the end of "From Russia with Love" while trying to shoot Soviet Col. Rosa Klebb in a Paris hotel room). He hated to lose the Beretta, even though he knew that the Walther was a superior weapon, a "real man-killer" according to "Q".

46 posted on 07/17/2012 6:01:41 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: 353FMG

I don’t remember what the Renaissance model of the Brownings went for. I do recall you could get a set of 3 in any of 3 grades. The 3 were the Hi-Power, .25 auto, and .380 auto.

I had the local hardware store in Defuniak Springs order mine. The price was $104.50. I had ordered it in 1968 but thought the 68 Gun Control Act might affect my being able to purchase it.

Knowing that I wasn’t sure it would be delivered, Mr. King phoned my and told me the gun was in but I could take my time and he would hold it for me. I went ahead and drew the money out of my savings and picked it up. They came with a Browning rug back then and the polish and bluing were about as good as it gets.


47 posted on 07/17/2012 6:11:04 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: SJackson

Yeah, you’re right, not many comments in that vein, but it just rubbed me the wrong way. When the panic’s on, clear judgment is hard to come by. I was very impressed by the man’s steadiness and firm resolve under pressure. Sort of thing I saw in my WWII vet dad a couple of times when things got ugly — though Williams is too young for WWII AND Korea, he might be an early Nam alumnus.


48 posted on 07/17/2012 7:45:10 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I was thinking much the same thing. Just watching this septuagenarian move into position in a combat crouch then take upper hand very professionally, as if it’s second nature. The police didn’t detain him and he’ll not be charged (at least someone has good sense). I’ll bet on military or police background.


49 posted on 07/17/2012 8:42:38 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties, we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: yarddog

Hail to the hollow point yarddog. Even my 22 LR are hollow. Why waist the ammo when one shot will do.


50 posted on 07/18/2012 4:56:36 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism, in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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