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Southern California sewage will fertilize Kings County ag land
The Fresno Bee ^ | 13 July 2012 | Mark Grossi

Posted on 07/15/2012 9:29:51 PM PDT by smokingfrog

Southern California soon will begin sending sewage sludge into western Kings County -- up to 500,000 tons a year to a piece of farmland the size of Clovis.

It's the San Joaquin Valley's newest mega-composting project, mixing treated human waste from 5.7 million people and woody debris from area farming.

The compost will be used as soil nutrient on scrubby land at Westlake Farms to help grow cotton, wheat, pomegranates, pistachios and other crops.

But make no mistake about this enterprise. The Sanitation Districts of Los Angeles County -- serving 78 cities, including Long Beach and Beverly Hills -- bought 14,500 acres of farmland so there would be a place to send these pungent truckloads.

The first sludge, or biosolids, probably will arrive late next summer, the sanitation agency says.

The project's yuck factor lit up the Valley's west side 10 years ago when the L.A. districts bought the land. Distaste lingers today among environmentalists and residents of nearby Kettleman City.

But the $120 million project has survived appeals of its county operating permit, a lawsuit over air quality and continuous scrutiny.

(Excerpt) Read more at fresnobee.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: compost; ewwwhhh; sludge

1 posted on 07/15/2012 9:30:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Grow food in poop. Not the best idea we’ve had.

Besides the possibility of pathogens and prions, what about drug residues?


2 posted on 07/15/2012 9:34:56 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1271 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: null and void
Grow food in poop. Not the best idea we’ve had.

I've got to disagree there. Notwithstanding your questions, it's just about the best idea California has come up with in decades.

3 posted on 07/15/2012 9:36:51 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: null and void

I’d be more concerned with heavy metals. BTW, I’m not talking music.


4 posted on 07/15/2012 9:37:54 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: smokingfrog; All

MILDRED: Oh Jake, it’s just your imagination.

JAKE: No it’s not Mildred. I’m telling ya; this water melon taste like sh*t.


5 posted on 07/15/2012 9:40:13 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: smokingfrog

There’s a Governor Brown joke in there somewhere.....


6 posted on 07/15/2012 9:40:53 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: null and void
What are you worried about?

From Wikipedia: All known prion diseases affect the structure of the brain or other neural tissue and all are currently untreatable and universally fatal.[4]
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This structural stability means that prions are resistant to denaturation by chemical and physical agents, making disposal and containment of these particles difficult.

Oh, yeah. Miss-folded protiens that only affect humans have to come from humans... So lets put humans in the food chain... Not a good idea.

7 posted on 07/15/2012 9:41:06 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: coloradan

There is that, I suppose.


8 posted on 07/15/2012 9:52:48 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1271 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: smokingfrog; abigail2; AgThorn; al baby; BAW; bboop; BenLurkin; Bob J; Brad's Gramma; ...
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9 posted on 07/15/2012 9:54:20 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: null and void
Grow food in poop. Not the best idea we’ve had.

Well... we've got to do something with it, and it is an excellent fertilizer. Plants grow best around the septic lagoon.

Besides the possibility of pathogens and prions, what about drug residues?

Well... you should wash any plant food before eating it.

10 posted on 07/15/2012 10:00:21 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: smokingfrog
"It's people sh*t !"


11 posted on 07/15/2012 10:03:37 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ThunderSleeps

I presume that if the human waste is turned to ash, there won’t be too many mis-folded proteins to worry about.


12 posted on 07/15/2012 10:05:44 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: null and void
Grow food in poop. Not the best idea we’ve had.

Vietnamese would have to disagree. The smell smacks you in the face as soon as you step off the plane. Hey, ain't no Porta-Potties out in the paddies, just roll up the pant leg, squat down and let her rip......

I suppose their generations have built up some sort of immunity to whatever gets passed along.

13 posted on 07/15/2012 10:06:59 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: null and void

much of Talapia fish is raised this way.

2 to 3 weeks before harvest they are moved to a pure water containment to cleanse their system of any toxins.

Delish, huh?


14 posted on 07/15/2012 10:20:52 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: null and void

Think about that next time we have fish tacos.

LOLOLOLOL

True story.


15 posted on 07/15/2012 10:21:31 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

The fish are arctic cod, I checked....


16 posted on 07/15/2012 10:32:02 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1271 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

LMAO...


17 posted on 07/15/2012 10:38:06 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: meatloaf

That would be my concern as well. Lots of instances of urban sewage containing heavy metals.


18 posted on 07/15/2012 10:49:57 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: smokingfrog

How about giving Cali growers water to grow stuff.

With this news we’re better off with a roll of the dice buying food grown in Mexi-China.


19 posted on 07/15/2012 11:25:18 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: doorgunner69; null and void

Germany has been doing this for decades, if not centuries - growing food for human consumption using human waste-based fertilisers.

That said, if I did know it, I would not purchase / consume food grown in such media. The danger posed by medicine residues, etc. is very, very real.


20 posted on 07/15/2012 11:28:58 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: smokingfrog

Do they get all the medical and doper’s drug residue as an added bonus?


21 posted on 07/15/2012 11:45:02 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Don't ever think that the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent)
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To: smokingfrog

Who gives a crap? They’re just Californians. Not to be missed.


22 posted on 07/15/2012 11:46:14 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: James C. Bennett

Good point but let us expend on that. We now have genetically altered beef and many other altered products out on the market. What is to say that the fecal matter of these animals too is not effecting the food that is grow in that? We all know animals are pumped full of steroids and pass it out in the end and that worries me. What concerns me more is reading the label on lets say a can of green beans. I am amazed that they get more than two or three beans in the can with all that other crap in there.


23 posted on 07/16/2012 1:10:20 AM PDT by Plumberman27
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To: smokingfrog; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
Gadzooks, hasn't California... been force feeding their citizens their own poop for years?
24 posted on 07/16/2012 2:34:11 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: smokingfrog

The article further describes some aspects of the sludge treatment, but doesn’t clarify the parameters of the sludge being disposed in the agricultural sector. The purchase of the land doesn’t encourage less reporting, but probably should mandate closer scrutiny of their operating procedures.

Sludge is a byproduct of wastewater treatment, which ranges from heavy effluent after initial screening and clarification, to product which has been fully deoxidized, burnt, and void of bacteria. It is a part of the wastewater treatment process, not necessarily identifiable as sewage.

Most people associate sludge being used on agriculture with spreading manure on farmland. It isn’t the same. In many cases (most cases) sludge being disposed off site from wastewater treatment processes is not septic, nor has any odor. It likely is finer in particle size, less dense, and may be more prone to increasing dust in the air, if not adequately suppressed while handling the media.


25 posted on 07/16/2012 3:19:48 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: null and void

We’ve been using it to fertilize animal feed crops around here for years.


26 posted on 07/16/2012 3:58:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Daffynition

That’s what I was thinking.


27 posted on 07/16/2012 5:42:13 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: EveningStar

First porn films and now this.

Los Angeles....volcano of filth.


28 posted on 07/16/2012 7:19:06 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: smokingfrog
Not a new idea...


29 posted on 07/16/2012 8:12:44 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: cripplecreek
We’ve been using it to fertilize animal feed crops around here for years.

Much safer, IMHO.

30 posted on 07/16/2012 10:32:23 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1272 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: null and void

Agreed. There was a lot of processing before humans ate the meat or drank the milk. It was more than 20 years ago but it seems that we were only allowed to put it on hay fields then.


31 posted on 07/16/2012 11:15:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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