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RUSH - Condoleezza Rice, Morality and Perspective [ spoke on sitting out election ]
rushlimbaugh.com ^ | July 13 2012 | RUSH

Posted on 07/13/2012 7:49:04 PM PDT by NoLibZone

RUSH:

I saw some stories about... Actually, I should more accurately say I saw blog posts speculating on what would happen to turnout. Some of them made the point that there really isn't a whole lot of turnout energy, that conservative turnout's kinda flapping away in the wind. And if Condoleezza Rice had happened to be the nominee, it could suppress turnout.

And I read that and it boggles my mind.

I could be dead wrong about it, bit when I see blog posts that conservative turnout is down because they hate Romney and are unhappy that Romney's the nominee, and conservatives are already thinking sitting it out and sitting at home?

And if Rice is the choice, that's bad?

I'm thinking, "What the hell is going on out there?" If that's true, if there are a bunch of you people sitting around there thinking you're not gonna vote 'cause Romney's the nominee and if he chooses Condoleezza it's over, then I have lost touch with you!

I have lost touch with you. I don't understand that at all.

If they fully implement Obamacare, it's not just babies in the womb that are gonna be killed! That's his point. So what does it matter?

Now, it matters because it's morality.

It matters, and you should never compromise your morality. But you do have to keep things in perspective. And you do have to have your eye on the big prize and what is going to enable you to have your morality prevail (or to have a chance to, at any rate).

But if there are people out there who are saying, "You know what? (grumbling) I don't like Romney so much and I'm thinking not voting,"

I don't know you.

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1 posted on 07/13/2012 7:49:18 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Here’s the audio of RUSH saying this.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?h6wmv1m8f46h89t


2 posted on 07/13/2012 7:50:36 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08. Right?)
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To: NoLibZone

Obama is NOT a RINO in any sense of the word.


3 posted on 07/13/2012 7:56:29 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamaid has to go.)
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To: NoLibZone

I heard that today, and finally realized Rush doesn’t know me.


4 posted on 07/13/2012 7:57:50 PM PDT by onceone
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To: onceone

How so?


5 posted on 07/13/2012 8:04:02 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: NoLibZone; All

“I’m thinking, “What the hell is going on out there?” If that’s true, if there are a bunch of you people sitting around there thinking you’re not gonna vote ‘cause Romney’s the nominee and if he chooses Condoleezza it’s over, then I have lost touch with you! I have lost touch with you. I don’t understand that at all.”

Dear Rush...yes you have lost touch with us, but you need to examine your own stance to understand your inability to understand. You are too quick to allow Romney to be POTUS because you don’t hold to the “morale/social” conservative viewpoint. You are more focused on the other two legs...I think mainly “economic.” I have always known you were part of the GOPe as Ann Coulter...you need to break to bonds. Don’t just “talk the talk”, you need to “walk the walk” and fully break ties with the GOPe (you are not fully Tea Party as you say). I think you need to take to heart what Jim Robinson has repeatedly said in many different ways. What follows is a lengthy (unedited and spot on) quote by Jim Robinson:

You either defend life and liberty or you don’t.

I’m sworn to defend it from all enemies foreign and domestic and an oath is forever.

Obama believes in the power of the state. Romney believes in the power of the state. Both have records of abortionism, homosexualism, progressivism, statism. Neither defends the constitution or life and liberty.

Those who line up with either are lining up to give unlimited powers to the state and place severe limitations on liberty and individual freedom.

I’m very sorry to have to report to you, my dear friends, that barring a miracle we pro-life and liberty conservatives have already lost the battle for the presidency. With either one of these two statists in power and with the current frame of mind of the SCOTUS, we have witnessed the end of constitutional government in America.

Our only prayer will be that we elect a majority of constitutionally minded conservatives into a majority of the legislative bodies all across this great land so that we the people can we re-assert our sovereign powers and impeach/recall/expel/fire and otherwise remove, rescind, overturn, repeal, abolish, close down and shutter all the corrupt usurping executives, legislators, judges and their corrupt usurping decrees, acts, amendments, treaties, decisions, departments, agencies, commissions, regulations, etc, and fully restore the constitution, restore the limits on government power and restore our God-given Liberty!!

Short of civil war, that’s how you mend it.


6 posted on 07/13/2012 8:06:47 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: NoLibZone
How odd and ironic. I get the feeling that I don't know Rush. Thought I did ... was mistaken. And he sure as hell doesn't know me. Thought he did ... was mistaken.

I will be voting, and will urge any conservative who's thinking of staying home, to vote. The only hope we have of helping conservatives in Congress is of voting for conservatives down ticket and voting top of the ticket such as to make it so whichever bastard wins the White House, LACKS A MANDATE in the popular vote. The only way we can do that is by casting a vote and having it registered in the popular vote count. I'm voting FOR a plurality and therefore FOR denying the winner a mandate; I'm voting third party at the top of the ticket. Every vote counts in measuring the degree of mandate the winner can claim. The more votes that go third party, the weaker the mandate of WHICHEVER guy wins.

7 posted on 07/13/2012 8:08:10 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: NoLibZone

We are running out of leaders!

RUSH
Dick Cheney
George W
Sarah
Rick Perry
Rick Santorum
Michelle Bachmann
Herman Cain
National Right to Life
Susan B Anthony


8 posted on 07/13/2012 8:13:04 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08. Right?)
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To: NoLibZone

“It matters, and you should never compromise your morality. But you do have to keep things in perspective.”

Rush, you say “never compromise your morality”, which voting for Romney would do...then you contradict yourself and waffle by saying “keep things in perspective.” Rush...it is YOU THAT ISN’T KEEPING THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE!

I still like you Rush, but on this you are just plain wrong...as is Coulter. Romney DOES NOT deserve our support anymore than Obama. The “Prize” is getting a conservative POTUS....voting for Romney WILL NOT accomplish that, and it may actually hamper it.

I wonder how many may stop listening to Rush now? Another sell out to the GOPe! I can hear the clicks all over the U.S.


9 posted on 07/13/2012 8:14:16 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: NoLibZone

I love it when someone who’s been divorced 3 times and married 4 times talks about morality.


10 posted on 07/13/2012 8:15:12 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: Finny; All

“I’m voting FOR a plurality and therefore FOR denying the winner a mandate; I’m voting third party at the top of the ticket. Every vote counts in measuring the degree of mandate the winner can claim. The more votes that go third party, the weaker the mandate of WHICHEVER guy wins.”

Amen to that Bro! Keep up the good work! I agree 100%!


11 posted on 07/13/2012 8:16:40 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: bimboeruption

“I love it when someone who’s been divorced 3 times and married 4 times talks about morality.”

Serial polygamy.


12 posted on 07/13/2012 8:18:50 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
Short of civil war, that’s how you mend it.

Romney is the last sliver of hope that mending might occur, otherwise it will be civil war and you and your "I voted 3rd party on principle" pals had better be ready.

13 posted on 07/13/2012 8:22:53 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: onceone

He says one thing that you don’t agree with and you are ready to dump him? You must not have been listening to him for very long to say such a thing. I disagree with Rush several times a day while listening to him, but for the other 99 percent of the time I agree with him.


14 posted on 07/13/2012 8:23:54 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: Sola Veritas

“Neither defends the constitution or life and liberty.”

Bit of a stretch there, don’t you think?


15 posted on 07/13/2012 8:24:18 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Nov. 7. Morning in America again.)
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I always thought maybe Jesus Christ is a RINO

/S


16 posted on 07/13/2012 8:25:46 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: Sola Veritas

Limbaugh must have paid his 3 ex-wives BIG bucks to keep their mouths shut.
As far as I know, not 1 of them has ever said a peep about him to the media.


17 posted on 07/13/2012 8:25:50 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: doc1019

I will not vote for Romney. I was not going to vote for the office of President in 2008, until Palin joined the team. I refuse to hold my nose again for a GOPe candidate. If they want my vote, they need to come to me.


18 posted on 07/13/2012 8:26:21 PM PDT by onceone
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To: NoLibZone
"I don't know you"

Who cares? Rush isn't my moral authority. I don't answer to him.

19 posted on 07/13/2012 8:28:23 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: onceone

See my tag line.


20 posted on 07/13/2012 8:29:22 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: Sola Veritas

I like your analysis on Rush.

I also think he’s more focused on the two-legs of the stool - economic and foreign policy/military. I think even our ‘Conservative leaders’ have become corrupted by this culture that the church itself let slide into lukewarm irrelevance.

Perhaps he should read John Adams a bit more, the President who said that our Constitution was made soley for a ‘moral and religious people’ because only a self-governing people beholden to moral and religious principles have little use for a powerful government of men.

America is very much like Ancient Israel was during the period of the evil Judges - when the corruption and evil of the culture and people was even worse than that of the heathen nations around them. No decent leaders could be found among them, nor could righteous men have a hope of being chosen to lead the corrupt nation. Israel kept choosing wicked leaders that waxed worse and worse until they collapsed from within and were taken over by alien powers that brought the remnant of it’s citizens not killed outright into slavery.

History does repeat - and given the fact that NONE of our national blessings come from ourselves, I have to wonder that a nation and culture that no longer puts morality front and center has a snowball’s chance on the sun to keep the other two legs from collapsing into ruin.

I will be voting this November - but NOT for the Romney trap being set for us by the Ruling Class.

In fact, my mindset is far past November and fully expecting no change except from bad to worse - and that is where my attentions and efforts are now focused.

Survival.


21 posted on 07/13/2012 8:30:13 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: NoLibZone

I took the oath which I take seriously and I intend to keep it, especially since the opposition is a proven communist who is destroying our country. I am not going to enable a communist to finish destroying our country.

Rommney sucks, but I have no choice this year. I will keep trying to get a conservative in the next primary.


22 posted on 07/13/2012 8:31:21 PM PDT by Enough is ENOUGH (I)
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To: doc1019

Damn. Did you even read my post? I said nothing about dumping him, I said he doesn’t know me. I suggest you take some refresher course in reading comprehension. Good gracious, the post was only one sentence long.


23 posted on 07/13/2012 8:33:33 PM PDT by onceone
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To: onceone

Same here. I didn’t vote for McCain. I voted for Palin.

And I don’t think Romney is supposed to win. It’s all a show.


24 posted on 07/13/2012 8:34:19 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Sola Veritas

It’s an election year. Rush always totally carries the water for republicans during election years. I can hardly blame him in this case, because I don’t know about everyone else, but I’d vote for Micky Mouse over 0bama.(Micky Mouse would actually be better than Romney too)

This election year doesn’t even feel like one to me. I’m about as enthusiastic when it comes to voting for Romney as I am about a trip to the DMV.

/totally_disgusted


25 posted on 07/13/2012 8:36:12 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Las Vegas Ron

4 later


26 posted on 07/13/2012 8:37:48 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Sola Veritas
Rush seems to be simply saying that we have two choices for President, so if you don't like either, you can choose the lesser of two evils. And though some think Romney another sort of devil, he really IS our only choice to defeat Obama. And if he chooses Condoleeza Rice, he'll STILL be our only choice to defeat Obama. Neither are my favorites, but I'll gladly take either, or BOTH over Obama.

We can work hard to get conservatives in Congress to replace the profligate Democrats and RINOs, and it is they who will do the work of legislation that will cut taxes, and make changes in Federal programs like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Sallie Mae, and attempt to cut funding to programs like Planned Parenthood. It won't be either the President or the Vice President who will do that, so their philosophies won't come into play, other than to have give an overall idea.

Sitting this election out in a snit over Romney, or his choice of Veep, is frankly cutting off one's nose to spite one's face, because the lack of a vote for Romney only increases Obama's chance to be re-elected. And considering what Obama has done during the past four years, we simply cannot afford four more years of him as President.

27 posted on 07/13/2012 8:39:39 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Terry Mross
"And I don’t think Romney is supposed to win. It’s all a show."

I think you very well may be onto something here. The entire thing seems as rigged as a professional wrestling match. The whole thing seems about as fake is it can be. Romney is just in there to take the fall. No matter what happens, we need enough conservatives to hold House seats to protect us from whichever of those liberals win.

28 posted on 07/13/2012 8:40:28 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Terry Mross
"And I don’t think Romney is supposed to win. It’s all a show."

I think you very well may be onto something here. The entire thing seems as rigged as a professional wrestling match. The whole thing seems about as fake is it can be. Romney is just in there to take the fall. No matter what happens, we need enough conservatives to hold House seats to protect us from whichever of those liberals win.

29 posted on 07/13/2012 8:40:47 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: onceone

To the average American reader to suggest that someone doesn’t understand them or doesn’t know them is to mean that you will no longer listen to them, why would you?

Excuse the hell out of me if I misunderstood your comment. Why would someone listen to a person that they feel doesn’t “know them”.

Mayhap if your post had been a little more detailed, this discussion would not be happening.


30 posted on 07/13/2012 8:44:07 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: Terry Mross
If Romney, or Obama wins, they will do it without my vote.

It is my vote, and I will cast or not cast it as I choose. If that makes someone think my not casting a vote is somehow a vote for somebody, they can blow it out their respective backsides.

31 posted on 07/13/2012 8:44:42 PM PDT by onceone
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To: doc1019
There are a lot of conservatives that are sick ... really sick and disgusted with "Establishment Republicans" !!!
We will NEVER get anywhere supporting these back-stabbers!

Wait until you figure out Romney.
If we nominate Romney, Romney will lose.
On another thread, WhiskeyX's analysis is very good on



Very well described!
Maybe it's time we got some DINOs to copy this evil plan against Democrats.
But who would soil their name and credibility, to do such an evil thing against the real evildoers? "

From Limbaugh Lexicon Terms Defined: Rio Linda, New Castrati and the GOP Establishment
32 posted on 07/13/2012 8:46:40 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Sola Veritas
“I love it when someone who’s been divorced 3 times and married 4 times talks about morality.”
You responded:
“Serial polygamy”

I guess we are all supposed to believe you really meant to say:
Serial monogamy

Freudian slip?

33 posted on 07/13/2012 8:50:44 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: KoRn

“And I don’t think Romney is supposed to win. It’s all a show.”

I do not know how so many folks - including Rush, cannot comprehend what is self-evident here, especially in hindsight of 2008 and the abject contempt the Ruling Class has shown Conservatives since Reagan left office.

I am literally laughing when I hear Levin and Rush exclaim bewilderment over Romney’s seeming sheepishness/unwillingness to hit back at Obama in ways that take the fight to him.

Especially considering the absolute no-holds-barred fashion the Romney campaign went after every Conservative running in this cycle. But for Obama - we get feigned opposition with no teeth from Romney.

I guess it would be bewildering if you actually fell for the show that the Ruling Class oligarchy has established in the chosen choice for Obama’s opponent.


34 posted on 07/13/2012 8:51:31 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: NoLibZone
Interesting...


35 posted on 07/13/2012 8:55:04 PM PDT by rdb3 (We need Ward Cleaver for President. We already have Eddie Haskell. (ATB))
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To: Sola Veritas

>> Rush, you say “never compromise your morality”, which voting for Romney would do

In my calculation, fewer nascent lives will suffer from abortion with Republicans in 3 Houses notwithstanding the fact that Romney has indeed betrayed Life. My vote wouldn’t necessarily be for Romney, it would be for Life. A 2nd term for Obama would keep the Life threat elevated.

The risk is well distributed on the few options we have. Romney could certainly pull the Republican party Left, but the GOP could also lose both Houses in 2014 with an Obama 2nd term; Leftwing Media and Obama would own the national dialog denigrating the “uncooperative” House Republicans in a two-year campaign. An Obama victory would continue in a campaign momentum to rid DC of Congressional GOP control.

Despite our diverging expectations, there’s no indifference to Life.


36 posted on 07/13/2012 8:56:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: NoLibZone
Rush us about getting the current regime out of office. Why is that so hard for so many fools on here to understand. We are totally screwed as a nation if Obama is reelected. Easy to understand! Please stop with the foolishness! I would love to have Palin, Newt or Rush as our candidate but it is not happening this year. I never had a chance to vote for any other candidates since Mitt was the only one left by the time our primary came around in Kentucky but that is not stopping me from the ultimate goal, saving our country from its biggest enemy maybe ever, Barack Obama!
37 posted on 07/13/2012 9:02:15 PM PDT by realraybon
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To: INVAR

>> the abject contempt the Ruling Class has shown Conservatives since Reagan left office.

Without local support, the Ruling Class cannot exist — the constituency is at fault.

It’s going to take a couple of decades to turn this around, but it will require a lot of work at the local level.


38 posted on 07/13/2012 9:05:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: KoRn

We’d have to elect 400 conservatives in the house to get a majority to ACT conservative.


39 posted on 07/13/2012 9:08:04 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Rennes Templar

No, it isn’t a “stretch”. Niether Romney nor BHO2 support the 2nd Amendment.


40 posted on 07/13/2012 9:15:24 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: NoLibZone

Rush should study these words from Jesus very carefully. Christ was talking to Rush and many more like him:

“No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.”


41 posted on 07/13/2012 9:16:08 PM PDT by bramps
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To: SuziQ

re: “Rush seems to be simply saying that we have two choices for President, so if you don’t like either, you can choose the lesser of two evils.”

The irony is that any candidate - even your favorite - has evil/sin in them - this is true of even the most conservative one. All of us are sinners - all do evil from time to time.

The question is - do you vote for more evil or less evil?

Put another way - do you vote for more good or less good?

We vote for the most good and the less evil we can get.

Even if the candidate is only 1% less evil than the other one, you obviously vote for the less evil. It’s a no-brainer.

The problem with some is that they think that both Romney and Obama are equally evil. I think that way of thinking is so twisted that it is pointless to argue with those who conform to that idea. Especially the ones who think Romney is GREATER evil than Obama! Oy vey.


42 posted on 07/13/2012 9:16:51 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: realraybon
Then you should get on the phone, computer, and into your car and drive to as many Romney headquarters as possible to tell him that you have personally witnessed the testimony of many ‘fools’ who take God's word very seriously (I knew you in your mother's womb) and will not vote for a pro abortion candidate!...and then get on your knee's and ask God to forgive you slandering those who take him seriously.
43 posted on 07/13/2012 9:21:57 PM PDT by bramps
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To: doc1019
Why would someone listen to a person that they feel doesn’t “know them”.

To find out how much he paid to have Elton John sing at his wedding?

44 posted on 07/13/2012 9:22:51 PM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ..gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..(Penn ST feels same about showers))
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To: donna

Funny


45 posted on 07/13/2012 9:25:32 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

I’m afraid the bulk of the posters in this thread will cut off their noses to spite their face.

Romney is not Obama. Do not confuse the two.

And for all of the pro-life absolutists, it ain’t getting over turned in your lifetime. At best we can hope to minimalise the occurrences.


46 posted on 07/13/2012 9:26:51 PM PDT by Edison (I don't know what irks me more, the lying or the incompetence.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
The problem with some is that they think that both Romney and Obama are equally evil. I think that way of thinking is so twisted that it is pointless to argue with those who conform to that idea. Especially the ones who think Romney is GREATER evil than Obama! Oy vey.

Ain't that the truth.

47 posted on 07/13/2012 9:28:58 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Gene Eric

That makes my whole point.

America could have survived a tyrant like Obama and the MarxoFascists, we cannot survive the fools that vote them into power.

We are no longer a people or culture that can maintain liberty, much less regain what we have already lost.

I’ll let Adams speak again:

“a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the Government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it” - John Adams to Abigail Adams 1775

History bears this observation of Adams as fact.

We have already surrendered the limitations on government while our share in the legislature is rendered neuter by the Ruling Class who runs the show.

Are we truly this sanctimonious tho believe we are too great to fail and fall?

We’re living it right now as history teaches us.


48 posted on 07/13/2012 9:33:38 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: bramps

Abortion is horrific, I don’t dispute that in any way. We have to win the battles before we win the war. If Obama wins its over


49 posted on 07/13/2012 9:36:08 PM PDT by realraybon
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To: bramps
Christ was talking to Rush and many more like him

Actually, I think he was talking to Christian clergy and leadership.

50 posted on 07/13/2012 9:37:43 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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