Posted on 07/12/2012 4:37:05 PM PDT by kristinn
**Exclusive**
Late Thursday evening, Mitt Romney's presidential campaign launched a new fundraising drive, 'Meet The VP' -- just as Romney himself has narrowed the field of candidates to a handful, sources reveal.
And a surprise name is now near the top of the list: Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice!
The timing of the announcement is now set for 'coming weeks'.
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It was Condi who received two standing ovations at Romney's Utah retreat a few weeks ago, and everyone left with her name on their lips.
Rice made an extended argument for American leadership in the world.
(Excerpt) Read more at drudgereport.com ...
I missed that. Which fake certificate was this?
Romney could have picked Rodney King, but he’s dead.
Unfortunately, the same could be said for any selection with an IQ greater than room temperature.
Do you have a source for that information, or are you confusing Rice with Colin Powell -- who actually endorsed Obama?
Rice: I have constantly told people that I was Secretary of State and I was not going to get into a partisan debate. And I would vote my ballot in a secret way, as all Americans do. But I just want to acknowledge that after the election took place, it was a special time for Americans.
If that's the Left's best smear, they've got nothing.
“That’s an idiotic view. The conservative base constitutes a huge percentage of the Republican Party. Without base turnout, Republicans can’t win. Cater to them or lose the presidential election. It’s that simple.
Not showing up at the polls because someone didn’t cater to single-issue voters (i.e, abortion) regarding the VP pick? Imbeciles.
It wasn't ever really about Bush. They're communists. And they've been as busy as ever promoting the communist cause through the guise of "peace". The word is in quotes because, like most of these SOBs, they're not really anti-war/pacifists. They've never met a violent leftist uprising or revolution they didn't support. Their heros are mass-murderers like Mao, Che, Castro, and, in some cases, Stalin. Not exactly men of peace. They work closely with pro-communist terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. They openly embrace commie traitor Jane Fonda. They're big players in the Ayers-Dohrn anti-Israel/anti-US, Mid-East missions of recent years. They're a big part of the Communist Party USA front movement "Peace Action", which seeks to disarm the US via pressure from "anti-war" protests.
Hey Noob I know the difference between Powell and Rice but it aint easy they are so much alike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPdPYX1Hv8E
But this is all the proof I need
Mittens doesn't care about the FReeper vote.
He cares about “moderates” and independents in swing states. People who don't follow politics that closely or passionately but who will vote and are concerned about the economy and are “disappointed” in 0bama.
These are the people that Condi will appeal to. Yes, she has negatives but the Bush presidency is ancient history to these swing voters. Her “moderate” position on abortion will also be a plus to them.
The other thing is that it takes the wind out of the sails of the Zero campaign. Race and the “war on women” get taken off the table - and even the MSM won't carry Zero's water for him on these issues if Condi is the nominee. Then the campaign becomes about Zero's record and the economy - a battle the Mittens people are prepared to fight.
Do I wish there was going to be a Goldwater conservative giving Zero heck day and night? Yes, absolutely. But it's just not going to happen, and the way the Mittens people see it Condi is so much more appealing than having to name Tim Pawlenty as the VP that this is probably a done deal.
The media will make sure that it won't be ancient history.
I think GVnana was asking for proof that she (Rice) endorsed and voted for Obama. I don't think she's anywhere near as bad as turncoat Colin Powell who actually did endorse the communist. And Powell would definitely have known prior who and what Obama was, and what "fundamental transformation/"Change" really meant.
Condi is as "conservative" as Colon Bowel.
Proof? That was nothing. You’re a waste of my time.
(Similar posts at 17 from ConservativeTeen, 26 from Anti-Bubba182, 50 from Politicalmom, 58 from Tzar, 72 from Little Ray, 116 from SUSSA, 132 from norton, 166 from Persevero, 213 from Donna, 285 from firebrand)
On the other hand, 311 posted on Fri Jul 13 2012 07:51:43 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Tzar: “Some people are writing that Condi is pro-life. We’ll see how the cards fall. If she is prochoice and gets on the ticket, I’m voting 3rd party.”
We need to get this cleared up.
Wagglebee, do you or others over in the pro-life and moral absolutes ping lists have any clear and unquestioned facts on Condoleeza Rice and her views on abortion?
Either Rice is pro-life or pro-choice. If she's being slandered and is actually pro-life, let's verify it and stop the unwarranted attacks. If she is pro-choice, let's get that documented and make sure there is organized pro-life opposition to her. If she's ambiguous on her views and has said more than one thing in the past, let's get the contradictory statements out for us all to see, and then force the Romney campaign to either ditch her or have her clearly state her views.
This is too serious to let drop.
Possibly. They'll mention it. But the MSM always liked her - she was the anti-Cheney - and they'll like covering her because she's got star power and these so-called journalists like nothing more than covering stars.
Look, I'm not a big Condi supporter and thought she was a bad SoS, and I detest Mittens. I'm just trying to explain her appeal to the Mittens people.
an Arabist
pro abortion
ambiguous about who she supported in 2008
Geezuss
have freepers gone as mad as the GOP establishment?
just because she is black...the white race in America has gone verifiable Colonel Kurtz
in today's silly world they would support the right jockey post if they thought it absolved them and they could preen
i had hoped the Obama debacle had quenched that idiocy
George Stephanopoulos And Michele Bachmann 'Settle' The Obama Birth Certificate Issue (George Stephanopoulos shows her a copy of the first FAKE birth certificate posted on candidate Obama's website and Bachmann accepted it)
This was before Obama released the newer FAKE birth certificate which was the PDF with layers.
That would make her selection all the more interesting. She could say “Hey, I got caught up in all the hoopla, too, but look at what has happened!” I hope it’s not her, but that will be an interesting angle if she’s picked.
Precisely...I had forgotten about that...I have the book too.
“Leave skin color out of it”.
That’s good advice... for you as well. Could it be possible that Dr. Rice brings much more than race (or gender) to the ticket? Gee — how ‘bout experience from being Sec State during wartime? Much more than Obama and Biden combined could ever hope for. Or maybe that she’d smoke Biden in the VP debates (if there is such a thing)because she’s so dang intelligent? Or maybe that she’s actually read the Constitution? Why must republicans fall to the same shallowness as democrats and look first at the race of the person then at the gender?
I can’t be the only person who saw the recent interview with her where she said in no uncertain terms that she IS NOT interested and WOULD NOT and DOES NOT want the job. She was not ambiguous like many. She was emphatic.
I just don’t get why everyone is fussing over this.
If the base stays home then they/we deserve four years of Obama and the destruction of liberty forever. OBAMA solidifies our base — not the VP pick.
Statements from Condi on abortion issue:
“We have to respect the culture of life and we have to try and bring people to have respect for it and make this as rare a circumstance as possible.”
“I tend to agree with those who do not favor federal funding for abortion, because I believe that those who hold a strong moral view on the other side should not be forced to fund it.”
I think she's for abortion in limited cases. I heard her on a Rush clip today say that she opposes late-term, describing it as cruel. And if she's opposes it in terms of cruelty (pain and suffering to the unborn), she'd have to be against it in cases months prior to "late-term" as well, since the unborn almost certainly feels the pain of the operation even then. As for her having been 'pro-Obama', she sure didn't sound like it the other day:
“President Bush was willing, against a lot of criticism, to assert American leadership,” she [Rice] said, adding: “I’m pretty certain I don't see that same level of willingness to assert this [from Obama]: That the United States is indeed exceptional, the United States isn’t just the lowest common denominator of what the [United Nations] security council can deliver.”
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-bush-rice/2012/06/27/id/443613
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"...we need to reassure our friends [overseas] that, indeed, we’re going to be with them, and that our foes have to respect, and indeed, fear us."
Statements from Condi speech:
“We have to respect the culture of life and we have to try and bring people to have respect for it and make this as rare a circumstance as possible.”
“I tend to agree with those who do not favor federal funding for abortion, because I believe that those who hold a strong moral view on the other side should not be forced to fund it.”
thanks for noticing!
Read up...I got plenty more if it takes it
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/07/condi-rice-abortion-pro-choice-vp-romney.html
here’s her video with Blitzer...why on earth would a GOP cabinet member not frigging tell us she is supporting the GOP candidate this election
cause he’s black maybe..same reason so many daft freepers toss their supposed convictions out the window and wet their britches over her (just like they did Powell)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPdPYX1Hv8E
if you must go BLACK...go with West ..he is far more genuine
I am a hardcore culture war rightist..it is bad enough to have to stomach Romney.
I will not support a race and gender pick social liberal as VP
that is anathema
why not ask JR his opinion...lol...no worries...I don’t do that but I suspect Condi supporters here don’t grasp yet the length of their rope
Boy, wouldn’t it! That effing idiot Biden would be reduced to a pile of crap with a bunch of hair plugs on it.
It’s like bringing a tank to fight some doofus with a rock.
Rice is absolutely pro-abortion.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/mar/11/20050311-115948-2015r/?page=1
I dont see this as changing any votes among the conservative community. If you were an ABO person before, I cant see you not being one because of Condi. If your part of the FUMR crowd, I dont see you changing that position because of Condi.
Truthfully, I dont think ANY VP would make a difference to the two camps. Probably a few on the fence that might not vote for Romney if he picked a very liberal VP such as Lincoln Chaffee, Olympia Snowe, Leon Trotsky, etc...and vice versa, some might vote for him if he were to pick Allen West, Sarah Palin, Zombie Reagan, etc...but for the most part, if you are a conservative, you are where you are gonna be.
It's a good thing Drudge is just being used, because you couldn't be more wrong...
Your thinking is sound.
I slept on the rumor, and a couple points occurred to me this morning.
1. Romney won the nomination without the conservative base. Actually, he won it with the conservative base actively campaigning against him.
2. I truly believe Romney feels this is like 1980 all over again, with Obama playing the role of Carter and he playing the role of Reagan.
3. Romney will take Reagan’s big tent approach. No doubt about it. 30 years later, he is going to have to do it again and bring all walks of Republicans together for the big battle against the moonbat elite. Fiscal conservatism is the one tenet rational people of either party can rally behind, which is why Obama keeps trying to talk about every social issue under the sun and Romney character assassination to change conservative’s talking focus away from the economy and his disastrous fiscal policy. And the fact that he’s a flipping Marxist.
4. Romney also saw that even if you pick a “historic” VP that is conservative, you don’t win over the conservative base. No matter all the reasons we can hash out, McCain lost with a conservative VP pick because Palin got character assassinated.
5. His VP pick has to get him a significant portion of that Big Tent that he can’t bring in. This could conflict with #4 if he feels he really needs the conservative base beyond fiscal conservative reasons, and that’s why this trial balloon got floated. We should see another one float in the next week or two, and it will be one conservatives will either tolerate or get decent response from, but he is going to consider the Big Tent reaction more than the conservative one.
6. Above all else, Romney wants to win. He went after Obama right off the bat.
Honestly, now that I had time, the reasons behind Condi make sense for all the reasons you stated. It is a good argument. She is up for something on his team, but what is higher than SoS, which she already did? Everything points to her as some sort of metering stick: the VP has to bring in experience and a good chunk of Big Tent instead of being someone polarizing. If someone else can beat Condi on that, then that is the pick. These things are always a process of elimination.
Most definitely.
Romney: “I don’t have a list at this stage. I haven’t put together a list. I haven’t done any thinking about a VP contender at this point. I would anticipate that whoever our nominee is would start with a very long list because frankly we have quite a group of people who have the skill and the credibility to be viable members of a national ticket. So he asked me about a couple of names but there are – I don’t have to tell you this – there’s a long list of very capable folks, including people who’ve run this cycle.”
TWS: “Would anyone on that list be pro-choice?”
Romney: “No.”
In response to reports that the Romney campaign may be considering former Secretary Condoleezza Rice as a potential running mate, Susan B. Anthony List President Marjorie Dannenfelser said: “Former Secretary Rice’s position on the sanctity of human life makes her an unqualified candidate for Governor Romney to choose as a running mate. Throughout the campaign, including at the Palmetto Freedom Forum last September, he has pledged to us in no uncertain terms that he would choose a pro-life running mate. We have taken Governor Romney at his word and therefore believe Secretary Rice will be ruled out of consideration. Secretary Rice’s position violates criteria that Governor Romney himself has laid out.”
If every single element of conservatism has to be met before we will vote to save the country from Obamunism then we are screwed and don’t deserve to win another election anyways. I’m beginning to have doubts about this country as a whole anyways,,,
It looks like the Rice for VP talk is just talk.
” if you must go BLACK...go with West ..he is far more genuine
I am a hardcore culture war rightist..it is bad enough to have to stomach Romney.
I will not support a race and gender pick social liberal as VP”
Heck, I’ll BUMP that !
drudge = whore
let the Bush nightmare end once and for all PING PING PING PING!!!
Rice and first lady Laura Bush spoke for the administration at the Oct. 10 [2006] swearing-in at the State Department where Dybul was accompanied by his male partner, Jason Claire.
Rice, during her comments, referred to the presence of Claire’s mother and called her Dybul’s “mother-in-law.”
Rice's approving 'gay' remarks rankle GOP base
http://www.wnd.com/2006/10/38405/
Sure it is..... it was on Drudge and makes the media happy for something to fill airtime. The media will grab at anything to stop talking about obama's failures.
Condi identified herself pro-choice, or somewhat pro-choice, and leaning Libertarian on the issue.
http://www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050313/news_1n13rice.html
Exactamundo. O’s people will be running clips of “But we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud” until the cows come home. Stay away from that. Shrillary supported the Iraq War, and that’s why she’s stuck at Foggy Bottom while Zero is in the White House.
Again, your opinion of them doesn't matter.
Sarah Palin is the only reason McCain didn't lose by double digits, and he was pro-life. Romney claims to be pro-life now but has a pro-choice governing record. Without a pro-life, pro-conservative values running mate, Romney can't win.
Cater to the base or suffer the destruction of the country.
I prefer to cater to them. I want to see Obama defeated. If you don't care, nominate another RINO. Two RINOs on the GOP ticket will ensure Obama's reelection. It makes no difference what you think of the recalcitrants who stayed home.
“Cater to the base or suffer the destruction of the country.”
Vote for everyone down-ticket (who cumulatively can do much more to affect your cause than the president can) or kiss your cause good-bye. Or stay home and pout.
Ha, Sarah threw pro-lifers under the bus when she said she didn’t have any problems with Rice’s pro-death views. So much for sticking to one’s principles.
Why does everyone thinks Rice is so smart? Is it all the degrees? Those are easy enough to get these days, particularly if one gets the minority pass.
She was a terrible Secretary of State (not that any other recent ones have been prizes) and she seems to be a dull, empty suit.
Add to that the pro-abortion views, and she is a terrible choice.
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