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Romney to Illegal Aliens: Join U.S. Military or Go Home
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Posted on 07/11/2012 4:10:25 PM PDT by tsowellfan

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s campaign office said that it is Romney's policy that “young” illegal aliens who join the U.S. military should be able to remain in the United States and attain legal permanent residency status, but that Romney is otherwise sticking by his previously stated position that all illegal aliens must return to their home countries.

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1 posted on 07/11/2012 4:10:36 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

The model is the French Foreign Legion. - March or Die -


2 posted on 07/11/2012 4:14:17 PM PDT by calico_thompson
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To: tsowellfan

Riiiight. That’s why the Romney Republicans in the Senate were pushing a GOP version of the Dream Act just a few weeks back.


3 posted on 07/11/2012 4:19:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you've surrendered your principles out of fear of Obama, Obama has already won. TomHoefling.com)
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To: tsowellfan
Joining the military is a privilege.

This current belief that people brought here illegally while young are entitled to some more ‘fair’ treatment is ridiculous.

This is similar to parent bank robbers or thieves who have children that are allowed to reap the money and objects of their criminal behavior.

4 posted on 07/11/2012 4:20:20 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: calico_thompson
Guess that plumbed the depths of Romney's knowledge of the armed forces. Last time i looked (Just now at a convenient site: http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/a/enlcitizen.htm ) ya still gots to be a citizen or a legal immigrant with an immigration visa.
5 posted on 07/11/2012 4:20:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tsowellfan

Romney is acting out what he feels conservatives are all about. He’s a cartoonish fraud. A caricature in progress.


6 posted on 07/11/2012 4:22:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: tsowellfan

I keep hearing stories about how illegals who have served in the U.S. military should be given amnesty. I call B.S.. How can an illegal alien without a valid social security number enlist in the military in the first place? As far as I know only legal resident aliens (with “green” cards) can enlist.


7 posted on 07/11/2012 4:25:07 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Jim Robinson

As Governor all they had to do was clean his yard


8 posted on 07/11/2012 4:27:51 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan

Some how I would rather not give gang members a way into our country, access to our weapons and our training. As long as American Citizens want to serve to protect the country, they should have the opportunity to do so. We don’t need a Foreign Legion.

Besides, the dems will demand that college be another way they can legally be allowed to stay in our country. The dems will agree to military service if the republicans agree to college attendance. The RINOs will say fine and the dems will happily vote for what they’ve always wanted — the same Dream Act they tried to pass before.


9 posted on 07/11/2012 4:30:33 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: EternalVigilance

Did Romney call them up and tell them how to vote?


10 posted on 07/11/2012 4:31:55 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: Waryone

I agree, this is nothing more than letting the camel’s nose under the tent.


11 posted on 07/11/2012 4:33:28 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: forgotten man

That could be the unspoken suggested policy. You have to first get a green card. Or putting it another way go back to your home company and wait in line to get a green card. If you join the military you may be on a faster track toward citizenship. I don’t think there will many illegals that will take Romney on this.


12 posted on 07/11/2012 4:35:18 PM PDT by orinoco (Orinoco)
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To: calico_thompson

Or barbarians in the Roman Army?


13 posted on 07/11/2012 4:35:28 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Jim Robinson
He’s a cartoonish fraud.

Better words couldn't be used for a description!

14 posted on 07/11/2012 4:37:49 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: muawiyah
Romney is talking about creating a NEW category of illegals who are willing to join the military and put their life on the line.

So it is separate from any existing law.
15 posted on 07/11/2012 4:42:49 PM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will rot your gut from the inside.)
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To: tsowellfan
Piss off Mittens. The Armed Forces of the United States are not a place to hide out from the law nor trade citizenship status. It is a privilege to serve your country. USS Henry B Wilson (DDG-7) 1979-1984
16 posted on 07/11/2012 4:43:55 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: tsowellfan; xzins

I didn’t know illegal aliens were allowed to join the Military. I don’t think Romney knows that either.

Where did the GOP find this clown?

Did he come in on a ship from Planet Kolob?


17 posted on 07/11/2012 4:46:20 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: forgotten man

Illegal aliens can’t enlist, unless they’re using a fraudulent SSN and don’t get caught doing so. Which is likely very difficult, considering all the paperwork and forms we had to fill out when first going through MEPS and all.


18 posted on 07/11/2012 4:46:34 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: entropy12

Not likely he’ll get a core of janissaries through Congress. Of course obama got the jizya through Congress. That’s a tax kafir’s (us) pay but the ulema (observant moslems) do not have to pay. So even more of that nonsense is possible ~ which is why I keep pointing out we can resurrect the custom of forcing allies to pay us tribute for the services provided by our military abroad!


19 posted on 07/11/2012 4:47:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tsowellfan

Illegal aliens, doing the job that romney and his entire family have refused to do.


20 posted on 07/11/2012 4:47:58 PM PDT by Duck Fan
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To: entropy12

CORPS, not “core”


21 posted on 07/11/2012 4:48:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: forgotten man
Fraud, ie, a, b

Then ya have cases like this one.
'Turns out immigration officials found that Dawkins was actually brought to the United States by his mom as an infant. She was later deported, but he was allowed to stay.

Dawkins was raised by other family members, always being told that he was born in the U.S.

He even had a Florida birth certificate and social security number. He served in Iraq in the Army and has since joined the Air National Guard.'

22 posted on 07/11/2012 4:49:38 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

Anyone, anywhere, of any nationality can already become a US citizen by serving in the US military.


23 posted on 07/11/2012 4:54:54 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: P-Marlowe; tsowellfan; Lancey Howard

We had a German national walk on our installation once and begin the process of joining the US military. That was in Germany.

So, if we had a Mexican national come onto a US installation in Mexico, which doesn’t exist, and ask to join the US military, I’d be open to listening.

However, why not let Arabic speaking illegal aliens become citizens just by joining our military. I’m sure that would make barracks living fun during live range weeks, and I’d have no problem with providing wartime training to illegal alien arabs.

I wonder if Romney even discusses some of this crap with any advisor at all.

This is why it would help if a presidential candidate had just a tiny bit of military experience. It would prevent them from looking like blithering ignoramuses. (ignorami?)


24 posted on 07/11/2012 4:55:32 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yes, provided you meet the ‘legal’ requirements and standards for the branch of service.


25 posted on 07/11/2012 4:58:02 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: muawiyah

Yup. Romney just wants to take a big fat liberal dump on the military like he dumped on Massachusetts. Romney likes homos (perverts looking for love in all the wrong places) in the military. And now illegal aliens (criminals) in the military. The military is not the place for social experimentation nor is it a trash dump. The military is just another political pawn to be played for political gain for the progressive statist Myth Romney. Like the Clintons and Obamas, he actually hates the military. Refused to serve himself. “Senator’s Son” and all that.


26 posted on 07/11/2012 4:59:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hasn’t there been a system for decades if not centuries where foreigners of friendly countries could and did have the ability to volunteer for the US armed services, getting an express road to citizenship in the process?

This isn’t qualitatively that much different from a judge telling a petty troublemaking American citizen to join the Marines or go to jail.

Mitt has a lot of bad faults but this plan isn’t on the level of Obama’s gay Marines.


27 posted on 07/11/2012 5:03:52 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook.)
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To: tsowellfan
Romney to Illegal Aliens: Join U.S. Military or Go Home

Spit*

28 posted on 07/11/2012 5:08:42 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Jim Robinson
Romney is acting out what he feels conservatives are all about. He’s a cartoonish fraud. A caricature in progress.

Just the language barriers alone would cause massive chaos and death.

They don't know this?

Of course they do.

29 posted on 07/11/2012 5:12:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

When Mexicans volunteer for the forces, I believe they have to prove they can speak and understand English before being permitted.

There would need to be something analogous for this. Can’t speak English, not eligible for it. Don’t jump all over Mitt about this until the entire situation is hashed out. There’s plenty of things to jump all over Mitt about that ARE clear.


30 posted on 07/11/2012 5:16:35 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I would love to see you and Mitt Romney debate each other for two hours. That would be awesome, and you would win such a debate.


31 posted on 07/11/2012 5:33:38 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: tsowellfan

since when can an illegal alien join the US military??

Permanent resident aliens have always been welcome and often gain their citizenship because of their service; but illegal aliens no - and properly so!!


32 posted on 07/11/2012 5:34:25 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper
When Mexicans volunteer for the forces, I believe they have to prove they can speak and understand English before being permitted.

Where are they leaning English?

33 posted on 07/11/2012 5:36:58 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: P-Marlowe

I agree, but most on this thread don’t


34 posted on 07/11/2012 5:38:17 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Nope. I don’t debate well. Within two minutes of listening to this lying statist clown, I’d blow up and tell him to KISS OFF!! Wouldn’t even want to be in the same room with some smug ass backstabbing turncoat statist bastard who’s trying to deprive us of our liberty,


35 posted on 07/11/2012 5:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper
Don’t jump all over Mitt about this until the entire situation is hashed out.

Bull sh*t. If they break our laws once, they'll do it again. I don't want illegal aliens in our GD military, end of story. I'm a vet, how bout you?

36 posted on 07/11/2012 5:40:03 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper
It's qualitatively different when the guy wanting to join the military is an illegal alien who broke the law upon entry, or shortly thereafter (as a visa overstay).

BTW, whatever standards were in place decades ago in WWII have been revised. I do know an individual who escaped Nederland by swimming out into the North Sea where he was picked up by a Brit boat then taken the US as a teenage refugee. He was then drafted into the USArmy Air Corps, then ended up doing his service on the Hump in the Pacific.

He returned home to Enschede after the war.

His entry into the USA was quite lawful.

37 posted on 07/11/2012 5:51:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: xzins

It’s something like ~ IG NO RAY MOUSES ~


38 posted on 07/11/2012 5:54:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dragnet2

Well, do you want judges not ordering troublemaking yoots to go into the service or go to jail? Same logic to a T.


39 posted on 07/11/2012 6:08:58 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook.)
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To: dragnet2

That’s the Mexicans’ problem before volunteering.

I would not expect the program if enacted to be anything more than a fig leaf because of the bad English illiteracy of most illegales. But as a fig leaf it stinks no worse than the judge who offers a kid who just burned down the neighbor’s shed, join the services or go to jail.


40 posted on 07/11/2012 6:12:20 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook.)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper
Well, do you want judges not ordering troublemaking yoots to go into the service or go to jail? Same logic to a T.

Same logic eh? You're talking about U.S. citizens?

Tell ya what slick, you enter Mexico illegally, and go rob some greedymart down there and see if those AH's in Mehico welcome you into their government or military...

Gezzzz. You either got a screw loose, or are pro-illegal for whatever reason.

41 posted on 07/11/2012 6:14:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Yeah, the hypocrisy of Mexico stinks clear back to old Spain. It really ought to be possible to bill Mexico for the support of these invaders.

And so what. This would be a token program at best unless a bunch of illegale kids want to crash course in English. You abandoned the assertion that “if they’ll offend once they’ll offend again.”


42 posted on 07/11/2012 6:18:09 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook.)
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To: tsowellfan

Romney knows nothing about the US military and its time he take a crash course. Neither him or his father ever served. He has five physically fit sons who have never served. For him to tell illegals to join the armed forces is an insult to veterans. We don’t need a bunch of Hasans floating around with their prayer rugs slaughtering American soldiers.American armed forces should be manned by American citizens.


43 posted on 07/11/2012 6:23:18 PM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: xzins
This is why it would help if a presidential candidate had just a tiny bit of military experience.

Amen to that

44 posted on 07/11/2012 6:23:28 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper
This would be a token program

I've got a belly full of government programs and ideas...

Enough of this BS.

45 posted on 07/11/2012 6:26:47 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tsowellfan
Bishop Willard and his cult of cowards who haven't served en masse for over a hundred years (at the high leadership level)has Goebbels like balls in even talking about military service.

On your bike WILLARD, Jesus is headed for Missouri, your prophet has said so.


46 posted on 07/11/2012 6:28:07 PM PDT by Rome2000 (WILLARD ROMNEY -- MORMON MELCHIDEZEK BISHOP -HIS FAMILY HAS AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE FOR GENERATIONS)
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To: tsowellfan

Gonna’ need a lot of Spanish speaking drill sargents. Otherwise, when the order is given to attack all they’d have to do is say “No comprende”.


47 posted on 07/11/2012 6:29:35 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper; dragnet2
Domestic lawbreakers are not the topic. We are talking about foreign lawbreakers, or even logically speaking, foreign born kidnapped children! Somebody somewhere has custodial rights back in the old country and any illegally entered children should be returned appropriately.

BTW, we don't need criminals in our military ~ maybe yours, but not ours.

48 posted on 07/11/2012 6:32:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Rome2000
Congratulations!

Your #46 has been named "Silly Post of the Day".

49 posted on 07/11/2012 6:43:39 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: tsowellfan

It is illegal now for an illegal alien to join the US military. Sorry Mitt, but that should remain the case.


50 posted on 07/11/2012 6:50:40 PM PDT by kabar
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