So how do you know that Obama didn’t renounce his US citizenship in any consular office in any of the foreign countries he visited at any time between age 14 and now? He widely traveled the world from age 5 onwards.
If as teen he renounced his citizenship but did not take it back within 6 months of turning 18, the renunciation is irrevocable. The only way to get it back is by naturalizing.
How do you know that he didn’t do this? Remember that his State Dept. passport files were “cauterized” by someone working for John Brennan, who is now part of the Obama administration.
If he renounced, there’d be plenty of paperwork documenting his clear intent. In such a case, your “administrative premise” is void (the assumption that the person had no intent to renounce.) There’s no such premise when the person clearly renounced.
On the other hand, if a person who engaged in ANY act that might call his citizenship into question (under the administrative premise) at some point makes an “inquiry” of the consular office or tries to register or GET A PASSPORT, then an investigation is begun and more paperwork about the person’s status is generated. We know that Obama must have naturalized in Indonesia because he was listed as an Indonesian citizen on public school records in Indonesia. That is one of the acts that calls US citizenship into question, when a person tries to get a passport, which he would need to go back to Hawaii to live. THAT would have initiated a consular investigation that would result in WRITTEN documents to record his status. The results of the investigation would be documented.
All of these papers ought to still exist, if any of these situations apply to Obama.
When he went to Hawaii to live in 1971, what passport did he use? When he traveled to visit his mother, wherever she was, what passport did he use? When he first went to Kenya, what passport did he use? When he went to Pakistan in 1981, first stopping in Indonesia, what passport did he use? He was about 20 years old. Did he go first to Indonesia to get an Indonesian passport, renouncing his US citizenship in the process, so that he could make that trip to Pakistan as an Indonesian? Just one possibility, which potentially explains why he never mentioned that trip until shortly after the passport files were “cauterized.” Not in either of his books did he mention a long trip to Pakistan. http://web.archive.org/web/20020222232435/http://travel.state.gov/acs.html
This next link talks about taxing a person who renounced US citizenship, which calls to mind Stanley Sutoro and her huge, potentially still unpaid tax bill: http://web.archive.org/web/20020204174803/http://travel.state.gov/loss.html
Do taxes owed die with the taxpayer, or does it come from her estate?
This link has details about young teens renouncing citizenship: http://web.archive.org/web/20020204000824/http://travel.state.gov/renunciation.html
Other sections on that first link go into detail about children born abroad. One in particular notes that if he was born abroad to a US citizen mother who was not married, then she would have had to reside in the US for only one year. I don’t know when that particular clause went into effect. It may not apply to someone born in 1961.
Maybe it would be “rare” for a teen to renounce his citizenship, but nothing about Obama or his background is normal. He was born a citizen of Britain and the US, if you believe his story. He later obtained Kenyan citizenship. He was an Indonesian citizen at age 6. His mother lived the rest of her life overseas. His father was never a permanent resident of the US and he may not have been married to his mother. Obama traveled all over the world, even after he went to live in Hawaii at age 10. He hides his transcripts and other documentation that might show whether he was listed as a foreign national at college. He talks about having student loans, but nobody’s seen evidence of those, either. What sort of loans were they, and from whom? Too many questions without answers.
Here’s another link that talks about an “expeditious way” that a person can give citizenship to a child born abroad by using the GRANDPARENTS’ US residence (even dead grandparents) as the qualifying criterion. This also may not have applied to Obama, if this was a policy change made after his birth, but there might have been a similar “less expeditious” procedure in 1971. Or maybe he made use of this procedure, if possible, say, around 2008. http://web.archive.org/web/20020222234834/http://travel.state.gov/xnat.html
On the first link I provided, above, there is a link to a page with a long list of information one must have to prove citizenship. There’s also a link to a page about foreign adoptions. I read on one of the pages that for a child born abroad there must be proof that the US citizen parent is related biologically AND legally. Because they focus on biological and legal parenthood, I wonder if this is part of the reason why the INS asked about Lolo’s relationship to Barry under a specific law, with the answer coming back that he was technically Barry’s stepson. At that time, was he not yet adopted by Lolo OR was perhaps Stanley Ann claiming that Lolo was the biological father?