Skip to comments.Immigration officers doubted Obama birth story (Corsi tip-off to 7/17 Apaio Posse findings?)
Posted on 07/10/2012 8:45:56 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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A picture is worth a thousand words.
If a person’s eyes and mind are open; it’s important to jettison preconceived notions and just see as though seeing for the first time.
But..but...the round peg WILL fit in the square hole if it’s just pounded enough!!!
Bimp for later .................................. FRegards
THERE ARE FOUR MAIN RACIAL GROUPS IN THE PHILIPPINES.
I think it might be about time for a birth certificate to come to light that accompanied the divorce application...something that follows the most recent forgery to the letter. It's the last opportunity they have to make good on that disgusting fake they showed us...I think maybe the 'news' has been leaked, if fogbow is rife with the rumour. (Not that I read fogbow myself, but there are Freepers telling us what to expect.) Not that a better forgery will change anything much. She still got custody of a child that wasn't hers, when she was granted the divorce.
What did she have to substantiate the 'marriage' when asked for it in 1965? This is what she had:
And she didn't produce that until Lolo Soetoro's application was on the verge of DENIAL. She was living in Hawaii and couldn't produce a copy of a Marriage Certificate...BUT SHE DID GET A DIVORCE? Heaven help me, how many times have you been told it's raining while they have been peeing on your leg? Don't forget now, when you go into the woods, wear little bells and carry pepper spray...LOL! (Marxist feces is full of little bells and smells of pepper.)
Thanks for posting that interesting INS document from the Lolo file. However Lolo and Stanley Ann were not asked to document her prior marriage to BHO Sr but rather her divorce.
In the BHO Sr. INS docs, Sr. is suspected by INS of entering into a bigamous marriage to gain an immigration advantage.
In contrast, in the 1965 Lolo docs, INS suspects Stanley Ann of entering into a bigamous marriage to aid Lolo and demands, in the file page you posted, that proof of “term.” (termination) of the 1st marriage be produced and that “denial” be processed if that proof of divorce isn't provided.
The final note on the INS page is that the divorce decree was produced. The SADO-BHO Sr. marriage was never in question or requested to be documented by INS in this 1965 INS inquiry.
Could it be that she didn’t want to produce the divorce until the last minute because she might have appeared to be a bigamist? On her passport files, she gave different dates for her marriage to Lolo. One date was prior to the date that her marriage to BHO was finalized. If she didn’t wait for the final decree, then wouldn’t she be a bigamist? She may have got away with it because the INS didn’t pay close attention to the date the divorce was final versus when she married Lolo (possibly within the same month, depending upon which date you accept as true. It seems unlikely that a woman forgets when she married, but everything about these people seems unlikely.)
IIRC, the incorrect 1964 Lolo marriage date (as opposed to the documented (IIRC) 1965 Lolo marriage date) was on a passport document a decade later and could easily have been a “brain-fart.”
In 1965, there is no evidence that on presentation of the divorce decree from BHO Sr. the INS concluded there was bigamy, thus it would appear there was no evidence of bigamy by Stanley Ann in the Lolo INS files (not Sr. who was bigamous, IMO).
Maybe they didn’t pay close attention to the dates. As I said, a woman doesn’t usually forget her anniversary. The husband may, but the wife? Not usually.
My Filipino friends mainly look like the two on the upper right, with some like the lower left. “Upper class” Filipinos (and Filipino society is very class conscious) have a lot of Spanish blood with lighter complexions. “Peasants” are generally much darker compected and shorter.
Thanks for the in-depth response. Would he have been “stateless” if his Indonesian citizenship was voided? Wouldn’t he still be a US citizen, provided he was born in Hawaii, which we don’t know for certain?
Ann took him off her passport, he got an Indonesian one, and he traveled to Hawaii where he met up with BHO, who then handled the paperwork to have him declared a Kenyan citizen. It’s confusing.
There are photos of Ann in Hawaii at Christmas time, when BHO was still there. Barry is in them, too. Both parents were there. She traveled on her US passport? Barry on his Indonesian one? Then what?
They gave guardianship to her parents who perhaps adopted him? That would seal the original birth records and even if it was later put back the way he wants us to believe it originally read, Hawaiian laws state that all amendments have to be listed on any certified copies.
Whatever happened, that’s probably what they’re hiding. What was it they say about Watergate? It’s not the crime, it’s the coverup? They’ve dug a deep hole now.
So what if this was legal and done to transfer him from a dangerous situation (which sounds like obot rationalization. Sorry.) I don’t believe that because they took him there precisely when it was dangerous. By the time he came back, things had settled down, I believe.
But he lied about it, which is the big problem. He ought to have explained it from the beginning, if it was on the up and up. Why instead send Lakin to prison?
I think we can agree that in 1971 something unusual happened.
For what ever reason Obama II immigrated from Indonesia to the US...without a change in status of his parents at the time. The ‘obot rationalization’ is just a ‘possible’ explanation of why this action was done. If you look through the archives you will see that the obots buzzed with anger when ever anything was brought up about Indonesia. It seemed they liked people to be focused on Hawaii and 1961. Not Indonesia and 1971. The dangerous Indonesia IS just a POSSIBLE and rational explanation for this unusual move.
The need for Obama senior is where this is interesting. His trip was supposedly paid for by the Dunhams and he supposedly stayed at their same apartment complex. Odd arrange for a man and his former in-laws after he supposedly abandoned his family.
He was the one who could ‘cleanly’ extract his namesake son from Indonesian citizenship and be a conduit. Think about it. If you are grandparents are you going to take guardianship of ‘dual citizen’ child. Especially where the other country is one that is in the region of US wars (remember this was the height of Vietnam action). So they probably wanted this very, very cut and dry with no international entanglements remaining. Obama senior was needed. The ‘grand reunion’ of December 1971 was not happen-stance.
So you found some bear feces without any bells or pepper spray? Congatulations!