Posted on 07/10/2012 8:45:56 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
I suppose SADO could have been sent off to Kenya on a 'freighter' but I think it is more likely that she made the trip on a more comfortable and accommodating 'passenger ocean liner', as outlined below. 'Money' never seemed to be much of a problem for anything related to BHO-II.
Speculation concerning Ann Dunham’s possible sea voyage from Honolulu, Hawaii, USA, to Mombasa, Kenya in the early Spring of 1961.
Honolulu to Mombasa, Kenya
It seems probable that Ann, 18 years old and about 4 months pregnant, traveled via one of the passenger ship itineraries indicated on the timetable linked below. I believe it is likely that she traveled alone.
Worldwide 1962 Ocean Liner Sailing Schedules -- British India Line
http://www.lastoceanliners.com/cgi/lolschedule.pl?line=BIL&route=0
For example, assuming the sailing schedule was similar in 1961, she could have taken the voyage: -- Line 42, Around the World, Westbound via the Orient & South Africa,1962. On the leg from Hawaii to Kenya, it utilized the American President Lines, Messageries Maritimes, and the British India Line.
Travel Details, Line 42:
Depart from Honolulu, USA, March 7, with stops at Yokohama, Hong Kong, Saigon, Singapore, Colombo, Bombay, Seychelles, and arrive at Mombasa, Kenya, April 25.
Thus, the minimum total trip time from Honolulu to Mombasa was slightly over 7 weeks. However, I presume passengers could arrange to make extended tourist stops at cities along the route, board the next ship traveling the same route and belonging to the same shipping line which stopped at that city, and then continue the journey. It probably would have been especially easy to arrange extended stopovers along the way in either Yokohama or Bombay, since these stops involved changes in shipping lines. We don't know how long it actually took Ann to travel via ocean liner from Hawaii to Kenya.
American President’s Line:
http://www.lastoceanliners.com/cgi/lolline.pl?APL
Video: S.S. Lurline - Matson Liner sailing from Honolulu - from whiteships.com
Uploaded 3/26/2009 by ‘TheWhiteShips’
"A home movie of the SS Lurline on Boat Day in Honolulu. Taken in the early 1960s, this scene was a regular occurrence in Honolulu during the golden era of steamship travel (1927-1978). Each week, Matson's grand white passenger ships arrived from California or the South Seas, and later continued on their voyage across the Pacific...."
http://youtu.be/qsUOQWGgVWc
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ROTFLOL. Apparently you are very, very gullible.
0bastard has alienated India, and removed “moderate” Muzzie dictators such as Mubarak so they can be replaced with radical Islamic nutcase dictators. And you think it’s a good thing for our mil to remain in Afghanistan under his vile ROE??? Contained Chavez? You forgot to mention being an ohole to Israel. And kissing the butt of Putin - and sticking it to allies like Poland.
Did you vote for him or something?
Ping to 1961 ocean liner Honolulu to Mombasa run...with video!
“Depart from Honolulu, USA, March 7, with stops at Yokohama, Hong Kong, Saigon, Singapore, Colombo, Bombay, Seychelles, and arrive at Mombasa, Kenya, April 25.
“Thus, the minimum total trip time from Honolulu to Mombasa was slightly over 7 weeks.”
Thanks, WhizCodger. Great to hear from you.
Who will be the first to spot Stanley Ann among the passengers in the departure video?
Learning Russian could be a ticket to free advanced education in the USSR, as an option for BHO Sr., just as English got BHO Sr. to the US.
And ANY of the original copies of a transcript that might, even loosely relate to the individual are are looking for, (ANNA OBAMA) attending the U of WA, couldn’t POSSIBLY be made available.
Just as ANY record for a birth in the name of BHO2 couldn’t be made available, because the date of birth, the name of the mother, the various amendements would give too much away. So they showed you an ABSTRACT.
That’s probably what the U of WA transcript also is. An ABSTRACT. ANNA OBAMA, whoever she might have been, enrolled at the U of WA in time to attend classes in September 1961. But to do so, she would have had to register BEFORE the date of birth the BIRTH CERTIFICATE ABSTRACT CLAIMS to be the birthdate of zero.
And she’s shown starting classes on September 19, when the U of WA calendar clearly shows courses in 1961 commenced September 25.
Not good.
Then you have the problem with who was it that was registered at the U of HI? Was it the student living with the Dunhams, who was shown in the Polk as Ann S Obama? The same name the kenyan placed on the immigration document after he crossed out another name?
If this is the Ann S Obama who attended Russian Classes with the kenyan, and she was enrolled at the U of HI, then her credits would need to be seen as transferred to the U of WA record. But was she Stanley Ann Dunham? There hasn’t been a transcript from the U of HI, so we do not know the name of the student.
Not good.
We can’t find Stanley Ann Dunham at Mercer Island High School after 1958. One image of a girl wearing a sweater and pearls doesn’t make a graduate.
But if ‘they’, when they created the abstract, included the information that this student graduated from Mercer in 1960, and attended Russian Classes, that should do it. But the name of the student listed in the Polk directory is ANNA OBAMA.
Not good.
BUT IT’S ONLY AN ABSTRACT! They have a handwritten, genuine transcript for a student by the name of OBAMA. Sure, it’s a problem, her name is shown as ANN (or ANNA)
Can’t have people thinking that maybe Ann S Obama in the Polk in Hawaii and Anna/Ann might be two different people...
Not good.
No big deal. They now have the graduation in 1960 on there, they have the name of the school they maintain she graduated from, they have her enrollment at the U of HI for Fall 1960, and have her Russian Class attendance, and her Hawaii credits, all they need to do now is -
write her name across the top as:
OBAMA, STANLEY ANN DUNHAM.
And for good measure, they include the remainder of her records as they relate to what she did after...(what-ever for, is my question)
And thus we have converted OBAMA, ANN S who may have attended the U of WA - into a record for Stanley Ann Dunham.
HAVE AT IT! It’s really the first obvious example of the blending of TWO WOMEN in this saga.
I was unaware FR had restricted access to birthers only.
ROTFLOL. Apparently you are very, very gullible. <
Why do you say that? I took a Russian course at Oklahoma State Univ in the Fall of 1959. I also took Russian History and Russian Geography.
There was nothing unusual about the curricula at the time.
It’s just that there is no actual record of Stanley Ann Dunham being in HI at that time. I think there’s some other nullifying bits of info as well.
Read FN’s comment 111 about the transcripts above.
if you look at her transcript it was not made in 1961, look at lower right corner it shows u hawaii etc from the 1970’s
But we all know that trolls are afraid to answer direct questions, don’t we 0bot?
Bubba, ask me a direct question and I’ll answer it.
Let me ask you a direct question (or perhaps several).
Do you seriously believe that the only way someone can examine the evidence and reach a different conclusion than you do is because he is a dishonest troll?
Is it possible that you could be wrong?
Is it possible that the person disagreeing with you is wrong, but sincerely believes what he says?
Do you think it is helpful to your cause to insult anyone who disagrees?
Don't you think such behavior is more likely to cause him to tune you out rather than to accept your calm and reasoned argument?
Booboo, I already did and you didn’t.
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