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New York City to introduce 300 square foot micro apartments
UK Daily Mail ^ | July 10, 2012 | Snejana Farberov

Posted on 07/10/2012 6:19:17 AM PDT by C19fan

New York City’s diminutive apartments have long been the butt of many a housing joke, but now developers are poised to take the concept of downsizing to a new low. City planners believe that tiny studio units measuring 300 square feet – or six times the size of a standard jail cell at Rikers Island - could be the answer to a growing population of singles and two-person households. Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Monday invited developers to come up with ways to fill 335 East 27 Street with what officials are calling ‘micro-units.’

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: apartments; manhattan
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To: camle
"if you buy one house and live in it all your life, you pay your instection fees, closing costs, points, etc.. one time. but if you keep moving into new joints, you pay those fees, costs and expsnses over and over again. and that money is gone forever, you don’t recoup that."

If you buy a house you pay yearly real estate taxes, school taxes, fees, fines, violations, lawyers, handyman, contractor, plumber, permits, lawyers ....

City makes more money on homeowners. They're easy prey. It's because of tenants that they receive violations mostly because tenants ignore city laws. The landlord pays for tenant disobedience.

51 posted on 07/10/2012 7:53:16 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Arrowhead1952

The 20’ models do well as a hidden bunker when buried next to an existing basement...


52 posted on 07/10/2012 7:54:23 AM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: C19fan

Give me land, lots of land beneath the starry skies. Don’t fence me in. Let me ride the wide open spaces, don’t fence me in.


53 posted on 07/10/2012 7:54:33 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: ThomasMore

Question is...do you have your own bathroom? These won’t. Guaranteed!


And you know this,,,how?


54 posted on 07/10/2012 7:58:27 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Kirkwood

Ha! What do you know?

I also own a pretty house in NJ. Pied a terres are very common in NYC. Places to drop after you’ve had dinner and seen a B’way show. I love my little apartment and so does my husband.

I’m sooooooooo sick of the city haters on this site.


55 posted on 07/10/2012 7:58:52 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

A single room in the Chelsea Hotel is $200 a night. The Y has no vacancies.


56 posted on 07/10/2012 7:59:18 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: BillyBonebrake
From Amazon:

Most Helpful Customer Reviews Fascinating, hilarious view of 1850s New York May 10, 2010 By Aunt Charlotte Thank goodness the NYT reviewed this; I snapped it up and have read it through twice, frequently laughing out loud and just as often gasping in shock. A human, funny, offensive, very lively and colorful tour of New York boarding houses, apartments, tenements in the mid-19th century (the author's adventures seem to have taken place in the 1840s and early '50s). I alternately fell in love with Gunn and wanted to sock him on the jaw. But you will never forget this book and will want to come back and dip into it often. The illustrations, too, are priceless. Bravo! to the publisher for reissuing this!

The nanny state in Florida outlawed boarding houses... It's a shame - a perfect way for the unemployed to create an income - and a nice starter - away from home the first time place - a safe transition. In today's world it would be a comfort for boomers unable to maintain a home. When I think about these places being outlawed it's one more reminder why I hate control-freak liberal elites.

57 posted on 07/10/2012 8:01:30 AM PDT by GOPJ (Speak truth to lies - to ignorance. Speak honesty to the corrupt . Stand-up to liberal elite liars..)
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To: kidd

More likely it would be filled with young careerists. My only trouble with it would be the hard partying on Saturday night.


58 posted on 07/10/2012 8:01:47 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

A single room in the Chelsea Hotel is $200 a night. The Y has no vacancies.


59 posted on 07/10/2012 8:02:07 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

Is the Chelsea even open? It was closed the last time I looked due to renovations. Hope its security is better than it has been in the past.


60 posted on 07/10/2012 8:03:57 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: ThomasMore

I agree with you. This idea sucks and is just another stepping stone towards a THX1138/Logan’s Run/Clockwork Orange dystopian society.


So if young people starting out are happy with these, they should be denied them and forced to live in larger, more expensive apartments? Like someone else said, young people starting out will be at work, out on the town, or sleeping. What use would they need for a gargantuan, more expensive apartment?


61 posted on 07/10/2012 8:04:44 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
I recall a "This Old House" epi in which they visited a Trump built/managed condo/coop in NYC.

The two things that stuck in my mind were:

1.) A galley kitchen in an expensive unit. The Trump lackey said the people that could afford the unit wouldn't need a "real kitchen" because they would be eating out most of the time, (hitting all the trendy restaurants...)

2.) The RE taxes at the time were $20K.


62 posted on 07/10/2012 8:06:49 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: dfwgator

That scene always gave me the creeps. Self important communist b!tch. Her offspring are over at DU,


63 posted on 07/10/2012 8:07:45 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: ThomasMore

Uh...you have to have bathrooms in New York City. You guys gotta get out more. Sheesh...


64 posted on 07/10/2012 8:11:16 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
Uh...you have to have bathrooms in New York City.

They're all in Flushing Meadows


65 posted on 07/10/2012 8:13:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: TheCause

Well, we don’t have a basement here. We live on a limestone shelf that is harder than concrete and it would take blasting to build one.

I remember when we visited the troops in Bosnia and the 8x8x40 containers were converted into living quarters that had two people per container.


66 posted on 07/10/2012 8:17:47 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: dfwgator

Flushing is a corruption of a Dutch word - actually of a city in Holland. Since you guys are so ignorant, let me inform you that New York was settled by the Dutch and many of its city names are from the Dutch.


67 posted on 07/10/2012 8:20:16 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

I found this “sense of humor” here on the floor, is this yours?


68 posted on 07/10/2012 8:22:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: dfwgator

Sorry, I don’t get Texas jokes. I prefer New York humor.


69 posted on 07/10/2012 8:25:04 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Recon Dad
Thanks!

God has been doing His part, as always, Praise Him!

I have been busy on wellsite the past three weeks, and I'm getting ready to wrap another job up and turn it over to the production folks and engineers.

The Bakken is doing well, although lower oil prices have some companies' drilling programs slowing a little from what I hear.

I hope (and pray) your health issues have been or are being resolved favorably.

70 posted on 07/10/2012 8:27:43 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: miss marmelstein

Yes, it has been closed. I was merely pointing out the cluelessness of the suggestion. BTW, living over on Lexington, do you ever go to Jazz Standard?


71 posted on 07/10/2012 8:30:38 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Don Corleone
This reminds me of the apartments the Soviets built for their people in Moscow and other cities. Living hell holes, no privacy, community lavatories and kitchens and falling apart construction due to shoddy workmanship and NO maintenance.

The Soviet pilot who stole the MIG-25 and flew it to Japan wrote a book, "MIG Pilot."

In that book he described how the Soviet government would build apartments using green wood for the structures. As the wood dried out it would warp and start to tear the buildings apart.

72 posted on 07/10/2012 8:43:23 AM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: albie
Then a closet would take 3 x 2

I doubt young hip up and coming New Yorkers won't go for anything less than a full walk-in closet with plenty of space for shoes and man purses. Of course, half their clothes would be out at the cleaners so that'd cut down on needed space but people now days seem to have to have big closets.

73 posted on 07/10/2012 8:47:41 AM PDT by bgill
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To: C19fan

If there were a lot of built in storage areas and it was quality construction like the cabin of a sailboat it wouldn’t have to be awful, for a single person. Cost per square foot would be very high for construction alone, though, even without it being in Manhattan.


74 posted on 07/10/2012 8:51:12 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: kabumpo

The Chelsea Hotel no longer rents out rooms monthly or yearly?
As far back as 2008 I read about TCH having tenants who have been living there since the beginning of time. Maybe they finally got evicted?

One of those tenants bought a condemned hotel in my town.


75 posted on 07/10/2012 8:58:31 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: chessplayer

If there was a market need then a private development company would have already built them rather than spending my tax dollars.


76 posted on 07/10/2012 9:00:53 AM PDT by bgill
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

taxes are paid whether up front or burined within rent payments. my point is that each time you buy a house, you don’t start the mortgate clock ticking from the beginning again, but your closing fees, inspection costs (and these add up)get paid again.
let’s assume they total ten grand. you buy a house, you pay ten grand in other costs. if you buy the right house in the beginning, there’s no need to spend that money again, BUT if you buy a house that you know isn’t going to last (remember starter houses?), then you will have to buy another house...another ten grand. and if you buy another house, another ten grand.
nobody thinks about those costs...except those who benefit from them


77 posted on 07/10/2012 9:02:59 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Yeah, I’d love one of those as a tornado shelter but between the granite and water table it ain’t happening.

Did you get some rain? My guage is broken so can’t tell how much we’ve had but it was too muddy to till this morning. Grabbed a handful of cherry tomatoes when I came in and there’s a couple cukes about ready.


78 posted on 07/10/2012 9:12:01 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I’m a landlord with units in Queens. I specialize in studios with about 420 SF each. I get $1200/mo for them - each. I could get more but I have good tenants in them now and that’s worth discounting by ten or fifteen percent.


79 posted on 07/10/2012 9:17:39 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: kabumpo

No - that’s not the jazz club located within Blue Smoke restaurant, is it?

(I know: a lot of silliness on this thread!)


80 posted on 07/10/2012 9:19:10 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Yes, and nothing silly about it, if you like exceptional jazz and great food.


81 posted on 07/10/2012 9:29:35 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: miss marmelstein

Yes, and nothing silly about it, if you like exceptional jazz and great food.


82 posted on 07/10/2012 9:29:55 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: miss marmelstein

Yes, and nothing silly about it, if you like exceptional jazz and great food.


83 posted on 07/10/2012 9:30:20 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: C19fan
Bloombergs plan is breathless, in its Marxism.

Why don't you want to let free enterprise solve the housing problem?

BTW, this tack has already been taken in communist run Hong Kong. You think it can't happen in America, but with a Marxist president and a Marxist mayor of New York, you betcha it will come to this:":


Yan Chi Keung eats takeaway outside his wire cage home -

Workforce housing

Different cities same communist concept
84 posted on 07/10/2012 9:44:16 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: C19fan
Somehow I am reminded of Bruce Willis' home in the film, "Fifth Element" as seen below;

And a New York full of these apartments...


85 posted on 07/10/2012 10:32:44 AM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: C19fan
Senior living floor plan 300 sq ft:


86 posted on 07/10/2012 10:38:07 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

This is what one man did with 344 square feet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg9qnWg9kak


87 posted on 07/10/2012 10:42:57 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: C19fan

Modular studio apartments for Japanese students




88 posted on 07/10/2012 10:53:18 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: bgill

We got about one inch Sunday and a little shower yesterday. Wife heard that Bastrop had close to 10” during the night and the area is flooding as per NOAA.


89 posted on 07/10/2012 11:13:52 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: kabumpo

I wasn’t saying the jazz club was silly.

I was saying that some of the remarks on this thread were silly.


90 posted on 07/10/2012 11:48:38 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Smokin' Joe
Smokin Joe, I hope you and both Thackney and ourselves be safe whether ND or Texas, God bless both.

I'm still praying for your own elephant!

91 posted on 07/10/2012 12:22:03 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: C19fan

Yeah, “micro” 300 sq. ft. quarters rented at MACRO rents. Why do people want to live in NYC?.


92 posted on 07/11/2012 4:56:52 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: MasterGunner01
Why do people want to live in NYC?.

__________________________________

To see if they have what it takes to succeed in finance, law, advertising, music, publishing, fashion, theater, music or a dozen other industries against the best and brightest from around the world.

93 posted on 07/11/2012 5:10:50 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: MasterGunner01
I am not sure if you ever been to NYC, one is talking about Manhattan specifically, but one just walks out the door and feels the energy of the place and have access to world class cultural amenities. F. Scott Fitzgerald in the "Great Gatsby" captured this perfectly:

the city seen from the Queensboro Bridge is always the city seen for the first time, in its first wild promise of all the mystery and beauty in the world.

94 posted on 07/11/2012 5:30:53 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan
Yes, I've been to NYC — once. I remember it before Rudy Giuliani cleaned up the dump. I remember Times Square, complete with pimps, girly boys, outright weirdos, hookers, peep shows, and other marvels of advanced civilization. I remember New Yorkers as rude, pushy, obnoxious, and self-absorbed people who thought the whole world outside of NYC was some foreign country. I never wanted to go back, ever.
95 posted on 07/11/2012 6:47:03 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: MasterGunner01

Can’t blame you for not enjoying your visit during the pre-Guilani “Dark Ages. I suppose growing up in the area, disclaimer in slower paced suburbs but with grandparents in Queens, I am use to the people and the zeitgeist of the area.


96 posted on 07/11/2012 6:52:22 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: ThomasMore

Every time I see an aerial shot of the “projects” in NYC or Chicago, I fume at the undeniable fact that the libtards would have us ALL living in such concentrated, controllable squalor if they have their way.


97 posted on 07/13/2012 8:05:45 AM PDT by CanuckYank
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