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As court fight looms over voter ID, those who have none fear losing voice
AAS ^ | 7.8.2012 | Tom Eaton

Posted on 07/09/2012 5:37:35 AM PDT by wolfcreek

EL CENIZO — Much of 83-year-old José Zuniga's time is spent in his wheelchair gazing across a gravel yard that's nestled among shoddily constructed cinder block houses and deteriorating trailers in this border town that has the distinction of being one of the poorest places in the United States.

He's homebound for the most part, but one of the few events that gets Zuniga out of the house is election day.

But now Zuniga's ability to cast a ballot is in jeopardy.

(Excerpt) Read more at statesman.com ...


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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And yet, photo ID is required to go to one of Michelle Obama’s book signings or attend the Democrat National Convention.
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Or vote in a union election.

Virginia recently started issuing a Veterans ID and you need a PICTURE ID to be able to get the Vets ID...I ended up showing them 2 - my Virginia DL and my VA card...

Also, I was in Walmart checking out with a 12 pack of O’Douls (non alcohol for you people in Rio Linda)and couldn’t believe my ears when the clerk (late 20ish W Dude) asked for my ID..

I told him he must be working for tips as I am 72 and besides O’Douls is a non alcoholic beverage... he apologized and I guess it kind of made my day.


51 posted on 07/09/2012 7:35:15 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are crapping in it")
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To: wolfcreek

My question is: What does former migrant mean? Does that mean he is now a citizen? That would be the only way he could vote anyway. To become a citizen, do you not get paperwork? Identification? Is this not required.

Heck, I just got a call from my son who went to NC for his job starting today and he informs me that he needs his Birth Certificate and Social Security card to fill out his I9 form. WTH

I should have asked him if I could upload it to the internet and that would be sufficient? I doubt his company would approve. I guess you have to run for the Presidency to be allowed to do such a thing! BAH


52 posted on 07/09/2012 7:47:10 AM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: wolfcreek
Many states issue free photo IDs to seniors who are no longer able to drive. My Dad had one when he was in his 90s. Why don't these groups pushing for "voting rights" get poor old Jose down to the local court house and get him a photo ID?

Even in Shannon, Todd and Ziebach counties in South Dakota, the three poorest counties in the country I would bet that most of the residents have photo IDs as they are members of Indian tribes and need them to get tribal benefits. The argument that the poor will be disenfranchised if photo IDs are required to vote rings hollow as a photo ID is required in most states to get welfare benefits like food stamps.

53 posted on 07/09/2012 7:59:42 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: asinclair

Even if someone else has power of attorney to take care of benefits- at some point either he or the person with his POA had to produce required identification.

If this person never had ID it can still be obtained unless there are reasons why he doesn’t qualify. My mother had to start from scratch when she was in her 50s and discovered a birth certificate had never even been filed for her, she didn’t drive and had never needed ID as in those days you didn’t need to produce ID every time you turned around. It only took my mother a few weeks to get all her stuff in order so she could get a driver’s license when my dad became totally disabled. That was in the 1970s so I am sure it is possible to do now as well.


54 posted on 07/09/2012 8:01:46 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: GeorgiaKusic
I think I understand. He can not get a photo ID as his picture can not be taken He is a vampire and as you know they have no reflection and can not be photographed. We demand equal rights for our Vampire-American neighbors!
57 posted on 07/09/2012 8:15:27 AM PDT by cotton
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To: wolfcreek

you would think the people he wants to vote for would make sure he had an id


58 posted on 07/09/2012 8:18:47 AM PDT by lifeisagame
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To: GeorgiaKusic
You don’t doubt the Rs’ principal motivation for the photo ID requirement was to suppress votes do you?

I will ask you the same thing I ask every libtard who makes that same claim --- please provide proof to back up that assertion.

59 posted on 07/09/2012 8:22:43 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: wolfcreek

Anyone? Where they have voter ID, how do they check those who request absentee ballots?


60 posted on 07/09/2012 8:25:49 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian
Anyone? Where they have voter ID, how do they check those who request absentee ballots?

I'm not positive, but i think you are required to supply the last 4 digits of your SS#.

61 posted on 07/09/2012 8:29:19 AM PDT by muggs (Hope and Change = Hoax and Chains)
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To: wolfcreek

The Left is greating up the sob stories. Many more to follow. Best to ignore them. We need our own sob stories about people whose votes were canceled by illegal voters.


62 posted on 07/09/2012 8:29:34 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: GeorgiaKusic
You don’t doubt the Rs’ principal motivation for the photo ID requirement was to suppress votes do you?

Just the fraudulent ones. Getting a state ID is easier than voting. Why does the left see that as an obstacle unless their motive isn't to protect legitimate voters but to maintain the veil over fraudulent voting?

63 posted on 07/09/2012 8:33:52 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: GailA
Because a lot of elderly don’t have photos on their DL’s any more in this state.

They really have the option of not having a photo on a driver's license? Never heard of that!

64 posted on 07/09/2012 9:01:44 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: wolfcreek
Not willing to go out of your way to get an ID? Maybe you don't need to be voting.

I suspect if he picked up his phone and called the local democrat office -told them his 'story' they'd find a way to get him an ID. Well, after they called one of their suck-up shills in the MSM to do a story on him...

65 posted on 07/09/2012 9:10:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (Speak truth to lies - to ignorance. Speak honesty to corruption . Stand-up to liberal elite liars..)
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To: wolfcreek

And even though Jose has enough bucks to play Bingo, I’m sure the state of Texas will buy him a photo ID eventually.


66 posted on 07/09/2012 9:14:30 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: asinclair
"Oh, you can take time off from work if you really feel that voting is important." Tell that to a person who is holding down two jobs.

It takes about 20 minutes to register to vote - that's 20 minutes in a lifetime. People register ONCE - then if they keep voting it's automatically updated. If your hypothetical person can't find 20 minutes to sign up, I doubt he can find the 30 minutes it can take to vote in a tough election.

Maybe 'the press' with the help of social workers, homeless shelters, and ACORN sites might be able to fine ONE person who is sooooooooo busy surviving they can't find 20 minutes in a year - but I've NEVER met someone like that... and you haven't either. And I'm tired of the press lying with an example ON ONE has ever run across in their lifetime or the lifetime of anyone they know.

67 posted on 07/09/2012 9:19:17 AM PDT by GOPJ (Speak truth to lies - to ignorance. Speak honesty to corruption . Stand-up to liberal elite liars..)
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To: Arrowhead1952
with the last name of Cruz and lived at the same address

You're right, of course.

Frankly, it's amazing to me that I can check my bank balance, instantly, from anywhere in the world...but I can't easily resolve whether or not someone is a citizen of the country.

If you'll indulge me for a sec.... a few years ago my company inherited an employee from a takeover. The guy was (Bosnian? Croatian? don't remember...), his immigration status was pretty murky, and he was working hard to keep it that way.

It took my company the better part of a year of jumping through various hoops to determine that his eligibility to work had run out. I don't know all of the particulars, but I know that the HR guy was pretty diligent about trying to figure out this guy's status.

Sez me, here is a company that is TRYING to obey the law, working with a single person and getting a massive, nearly year-long runaround from various government constituencies. How difficult is it for a factory, say in New Mexico, with 2000 workers, half named 'Rodriguez', and all with "murky employment status"?

68 posted on 07/09/2012 9:21:07 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill
with 2000 workers, half named 'Rodriguez'

and the other half named Martinez

69 posted on 07/09/2012 10:03:33 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: GOPJ
It takes about 20 minutes to register to vote - that's 20 minutes in a lifetime.

Where do *you* live? Where I am, each and every time the voter registration process took more than an hour, most of it waiting for other people to be processed. Add to that the 45 minutes it takes to get to and from the county offices and that's a good chunk of the day gone. Bosses don't like lunches that long. Also, every time I've moved within this county, there has always been some reason I've been instructed to go down to the county offices in person to update my registration -- oh, and don't forget your proof of citizenship (and a DL doesn't count -- glad I have a current passport).

The one time I tried to update my mailing address at the polls, they not only lost the update, they also managed to drop my registration completely. "It must be due to your changing precincts," said the helpful clerk.

So I'm heading to the office again, to ensure they don't lose my voter registration again. You guessed it, I moved just after the mid-term elections.

Speaking of which, you apparently haven't moved very much. My career has taken me to 11 states in roughly 18 removes. Twice I was disenfranchised because the moves were too close to Election Day -- so I couldn't meet the minimum residency requirement...and neither state didn't had national-only ballots. And the states I departed? "Oh, we can't send you an absentee ballot, you don't live here anymore."

What about that picture ID? Ever get through a DMV in any state in less that three hours? The fastest pass through the DMV gauntlet is when they came to my high school to administer the drivers license exams. Last time I renewed my DL it was a six-hour ordeal, because the DMV was short-handed...on a Saturday.

"20 minutes to register" -- for most people, that just doesn't hold.

At least I live in the city now. Before, I was out in the boonies, so the travel time to the registrar's office was more than an hour each way. And woe to you if you happen to hit a training day, or someone leaving (and the long lunch that goes with it), or the mad dash out the door at 4 pm, or even earlier.

I endure it because I think it's important. Not everyone does.

Actually, after writing this, I have to laugh about some of the people thinking that the voter-ID laws are "meant to disenfranchise minorities" -- the bureaucratic process does that quite nicely as it is.

70 posted on 07/09/2012 10:42:02 AM PDT by asinclair (Bureaucrats are supposed to work for us, not against us.)
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To: asinclair

I use to register people to vote...


71 posted on 07/09/2012 12:35:23 PM PDT by GOPJ (Speak truth to lies - to ignorance. Speak honesty to corruption . Stand-up to liberal elite liars..)
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To: Free Vulcan

Nope and coming from our sanctuary city newspaper I doubt they even asked.


72 posted on 07/09/2012 1:06:13 PM PDT by wolfcreek (A closed eye mentality is the reason for our current reality)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I bet the 25,000+ in Travis county are all dead or missing Liberals.


73 posted on 07/09/2012 1:06:46 PM PDT by wolfcreek (A closed eye mentality is the reason for our current reality)
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To: rawhide

~”He is still allowed to vote without any photo ID, by absentee ballot. Just curious, how did he get registered to vote, without a photo ID? Is this guy an American citizen?”~

http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/pamphlets/largepamp.shtml


74 posted on 07/09/2012 4:48:03 PM PDT by uptoolate (Republicans sure do like their liberalism)
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To: wolfcreek
But now Zuniga's ability to cast a ballot is in jeopardy.

Not it isn't Eaton. Just like most liberals/socialists/democRATs you don't have a friggin clue. Mr. Zuniga can vote, it's call a provisional ballot, and you pick it up at the polling place. If his ballot is found valid, it will be counted.

5.56mm

75 posted on 07/09/2012 4:56:09 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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