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Hospitals 'letting patients die to save money’ (UK)
Telegraph ^ | 7/8/12 | Stephen Adam

Posted on 07/08/2012 6:52:20 PM PDT by Nachum

Tens of thousands of patients with terminal illnesses are placed on a “death pathway” to help end their lives every year. However, in a letter to The Daily Telegraph, six doctors warn that hospitals may be using the controversial scheme to reduce strain on hospital resources. Supporters of the Liverpool Care Pathway, which allows medical staff to withhold fluid and drugs in a patient’s final days, claim it is the kindest way of letting them slip away. But the experts say in their letter that natural deaths are often freer of pain and distress. Informed consent is not

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KEYWORDS: deathpanels; die; hospitals; letting; nhs; obamacare; patients
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To: napscoordinator
Everybody is going to die anyway.

They are deciding when that anyway will be.

So you come in with a severe stomach bug but since "you are going to die anyway" they just neglect to give you any care and yep, you die. See how that works?

A 22 year old after surgery was not given his medication and not given any hydration. Those were Kane Gorny's "final days". So no harm no foul. Perfectly ok.

We will just overlook the fact that if he had received his medication and water he would likely have lived.

Then there was 18 year old Laura Garner who came in with an infection. They not only did not treat her but they also left her unobserved for 11 hours despite a raging fever and refused permission for her mom to be with her.

These was her "final days" no worrys!

21 posted on 07/09/2012 7:07:49 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Dragons don't have friends. The nearest they can get to the idea is an enemy who is still alive.)
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To: GreyFriar
"The decision to use the pathway should involve patients and family members, and a patient's condition should be closely monitored. If, as sometimes happens, a patient improves, they are taken off the LCP and given whatever treatments best suit their new needs."
Once you remove a bed-ridden patient from fluids and sedate them (the pathway) its only a matter of days before a bed opens up. There's not going to be an improvement. The only thing to "best suit their new needs" will be a casket.
22 posted on 07/09/2012 7:35:21 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: max americana
sickening isn;t it that we know how Canada's and the Uk’s health care system works and still have folks over there but the dummies over here who support this show their ignorance over this issue and support it all because they think their messiah tells his cult the truth.

Because of their dumb ignorance and stupidity then millions of others have to suffer in the future and pay for this.

I left there because of how big Govt works, those socialists who refuse to call themselves socialists over here haven't got the brains to actually do their own research or go and live in the UK or Canada for over 3 years.

Maybe if they got the brains to go over there and live under big Govt then they would understand how big Govt gets in the way/

Look at the fools who support the smoking ban in NY city, yea they support this but now they go after soda they say it's going to far.

Typical, they will ban what they do not use but as soon as they ban what they do use they don't like big Govt

23 posted on 07/09/2012 10:44:47 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: napscoordinator

trust me , seeing my family be refused medical services in the UK is cruel no matter what service it is.

Seeing an old woman who can’t walk hardly be refused her knee surgery for years because she is now 82 is sickening.

Those stupid dumb idiotic socialists out there supporting this might wake up when they get older or see their family suffer and be put into a hospice .

I’ve seen two now put into a hospice through the Govt and this is the crap liberals , really called socialists want.

obama voters plain stupid and dumb and his speech saying the jobs report was good and hearing hsi cult cheer was a typical demonstration of the obama voters are stupid and with no brains


24 posted on 07/09/2012 10:49:25 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

“sickening isn;t it that we know how Canada’s and the Uk’s health care system works and still have folks over there but the dummies over here who support this show their ignorance over this issue and support it all because they think their messiah tells his cult the truth.”

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You have no idea how many times I had to “correct” liberal idiots here in America who want to go to Canada because healthcare is “FREE”.

Seriously. I can’t wait til’ they move to anti-American hotbeds like Vancouver or Toronto, and they’ll be in for a rude awakening.


25 posted on 07/09/2012 2:51:57 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: max americana
you and I both with trying to explain what Govt health care is about and how it really isn't free.

Most of these dopes say “wow you guys have free health care that great”

er no we do not , someone is paying , just look at the tax's we have, with VAT with national insurance and all taken out right away and you don't see that money you worked for.

usually after saying all of this and saying how long the waiting list is and how you can be refused they say that is not good but still support it.

I swear the obama voters will down in history as the dumbest voters this country has ever produced and the sad part is that they cannot even see it and tell each other how smart they are and how cultural they are etc bla bla bla.

26 posted on 07/09/2012 5:55:57 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

“er no we do not , someone is paying”

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Correct. They’re simply called monthly premiums’. IF you forget to pay your monthly, the gubmint’ basically dings your credit report AND will attempt to arrest you, I kid you not.

But, but..the so-called “good” part is that if you can show to the provincial govt you have NO MONEY, they can waive it for you. Here with Obamacare, it’s not explained. The IRS will still be able to reach into your savings account and grab it.


27 posted on 07/09/2012 8:01:07 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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