Skip to comments.Obama's Goose is Cooked
Posted on 07/07/2012 6:14:31 AM PDT by no dems
Obama needed a filet mignon in the June employment report. But instead he got a rubber chicken.
Only 80,000 new jobs were created last month, way below Wall Street expectations. Its the fourth consecutive monthly disappointment. For a few months last winter, jobs were rising at an average of 225,000 a month. But that has sloped way down to only 75,000. The unemployment rate continues at 8.2 percent, which is the forty-first straight month above 8 percent. The U6 unemployment rate, which includes discouraged workers, is just under 15 percent.
As voters finalize their election impressions this summer, all of this is bad news for the Chicago incumbent.
In a campaign stop in Ohio on Friday, Obama actually said were still heading in the right direction. Is he kidding? As a stagnant GDP drops below 2 percent, employment falters, retail sales decline, and the ISM index for manufacturing drops below 50 (signaling contraction)? No objective observer can deny that the economy is headed in the wrong direction.
I dont like playing the pessimist, but the numbers are the numbers. This is exactly what former Clinton advisers James Carville, Doug Schoen, and Stanley Greenberg have been warning Obama about. People just dont believe the economy is getting better. So hes gotta change his message.
But what change? Taxing rich people wont create jobs. Neither will bashing Bain Capital. Obama is surrounded by leftist campaign advisers. And its hard to see them shifting gears to something constructive like making a summer deal to extend the Bush tax cuts for a year, or heaven forbid backing off the 20-some-odd tax hikes embodied in Obamacare.
In other words, Obamas goose may already be cooked.
The Joint Economic Committee (JEC), spearheaded by Texas congressman Kevin Brady, put out a report saying that the Obama recovery now ranks dead last in modern times. Thats a real milestone in the post-WWII era. Its ten out of ten for both jobs and economic growth. According to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, real GDP has expanded only 6.7 percent over the eleven-quarter recovery since the recession ended. The Reagan recovery at the same stage had increased by 17.6 percent. The Clinton recovery by 8.7 percent.
As for jobs, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that the number of private-sector jobs has grown by only 4.1 percent since the cyclical low point. Reagans record was 10.7 percent.
So much for Obamanomics. Didnt work. Still isnt working. As the JEC put it, spending stimulus, housing bailouts, auto bailouts, financial bailouts, cash for clunkers, cash for caulkers, and $5 trillion in deficit spending left the Obama recovery dead last in modern times.
Whatever happened to the great boom of the 80s and 90s, when the animal spirits were strong and the American economy wasnt held hostage by Europe or China? In an odd twist, both Obama and his top economist Alan Krueger blame problems built up over decades. Does that mean they blame Clinton? Reagan?
For nearly 25 years -- during those bad old decades -- the economy increased 3.3 percent annually. Unemployment dropped from 11 percent to 6 percent to 5 percent to below 4 percent. Obama would swoon for numbers like that. But those statistics come from the era when big government was over, when pro-market forces stopped the expansion of Leviathan, and when marginal tax rates were slashed to grow the economy.
Now the question is, with Obamas economic goose cooked, does Mitt Romney have what it takes to win the election and provide a pro-growth economic model that will restore prosperity at home and Americas number-one position around the world?
Some powerful figures -- including Rupert Murdoch, Jack Welch, and even my brothers and sisters at the Wall Street Journal editorial page -- have taken shots at Romney in recent days. But I am more optimistic. In response to his critics on the day of the bad June jobs report, Romney talked about expanding energy resources, approving the Keystone pipeline, cutting taxes, and increasing trade with Latin America. He reaffirmed his intention to cut federal spending and eliminate programs.
Basically, Romney is promising a return to free-market, supply-side policies on taxes, trade, regulation, and spending. Hopefully he will embrace a sound and stable dollar as well. I still believe Romney is the most underrated politician in America today, and that hes the most conservative Republican standard bearer since Ronald Reagan.
I wish more people could come and experience The Alamo, the San Jacinto Monument, and stand under Big Sam. Texas and Texans are great America. The “can’t” attitude is rare here, and the honor and respect to your elders and the Bible are strong. The people here keep and bear arms, and while no place is perfect, it is a fantastic place to live and visit. I travel for work, and meet great and nice people everywhere in America, I pray for the best for our country. I want it back to where a man’s word and a handshake were worth having. It still is like that in many places. I would be ashamed of myself if I was on the government dole. Here at least, for now, you are encouraged to own a gun, and goto church. Hold the door for the ladies and the elderly, be polite, say sir and ma’am, please and thank you. And Bless You, when a sneeze is heard. If I can live like this for another 45 years, I will be blessed, and so far, Texas, is as close as I can come...
Of course Romney is better than Obama...
There are a number of people on this site who would vehemently disagree with this.
In fact I’m astounded that they aren’t all over this thread yet.
You are so right rogue yam. I’m surprised they have not come out swinging and told all of us “RINO lovers” to go to hell.
If that don’t get you on “The List” nothing will. :)
A FEW STATISTICS
31% of Americans give Obama positive grade on handling economic issues
36% of Americans, about 80 million people, believe UFO’s exist.
If aliens arrived at their doorstep. 22% of that 36 percent would try to befriend the alien, 15% would run away, 13% would lock their doors, and only 2% would try to inflict bodily harm.
... the other 48 percent would vote him in as President.
Because liberals own the mainsteam media and the classrooms.
Post #67 is EXCELLENT!!
Well said, bares repeating.
I hate to tell mountainlion this, but ALL TEA PARTIERS ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE.
Some folks get confused by this. They know from reading their Bible that no man is perfect, not a one. So they understand that every vote is among imperfect individuals.
So how can anyone know when our least-imperfect choice is still a legitimate choice, and when our least-imperfect choice is in fact "evil" and therefore is not a legitimate choice?
Just listen to and obey the dogma as decreed by the self-appointed Free Republic College of Conservative Cardinals (formerly known as the FR He-Man Mitt Hates Club).
Do whatever "they" say (whoever "they" are, it's never quite clear) and you are officially "pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America."
Violate their edicts and you are a condemned-to-hell supporter of "liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc."
But whichever path you choose, pure glorious righteousness or eternal ignoble damnation, be sure to stop by the fundraising thread and pony up. Thank you.
We have for the most part been in a Depression since the Tech Bust in 2000, Deficit Spending on a massive scale and Government Subsidies have just hidden it below the surface and now we are out of money.
I think you overstate the divisions on the Right.
Bulls**t. What planet did you just come from? 1rudeboy is exactly right. We ran 7 or 8 “Conservatives” to one Moderate. And Conservatives could not unite behind a one float parade. That’s why we get a RINO every four years.
And how many parsecs distant is the galaxy you are from?
Conservatives striving for the most conservative candidate possible results instead in the least conservative nominee?
Tell me how you hope my mamas dies from AIDS......
Only liberals use that hateful rhetoric. You sure you are cheering for the right guy?
Bulls**t!!! If that’s the case, then you and your purist buddies must be closet Liberals because I’ve been on the receiving end of you guys’ mean-spirited, hateful comments. Now, you can just bite me punk.
Once again rogue yam, I am in total agreement with you. Your Post #89 is spot on.
How do we hold a conservative convention to choose a conservative candidate
Simplify it. Get people that Conservatives trust like Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Allen West, Jim DeMint, Sarah Palin, Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal together. Sequester them for 2 days and let them present one or two Conservatives to us as “A Conservative who can Win”. And, let’s choose between those two. And, after Iowa, New Hampshire and North Carolina, we all unite behind the one in the lead.
What say ye?
The true Unemployment Rate is around 23% and that includes everything.
Our Labor particiaption rate is around 59% of those eligble to have a job.
Obama has put forward no comprehensive plan to help this Economy or our Country and won’t.
Ref. your Post #110: So, what is your suggestion?
Im gladly happy to be corrected,thank You
“Obama has put forward no comprehensive plan to help this Economy or our Country and wont.”
The best economic “plan” ALWAYS and EVERYWHERE, would be for the government (federal, state and local), to not just get out of the way, but GROSSLY reduce its size.
“I don’t understand how anyone could let him have a free-wheeling second term.”
Unfortunately, we have WAY too many “anyones” who benefit from the redistributionist thefts sent their way by a big government.
My comment was “utter illogic”??? Divide the Conservative vote up among 7 candidates, allowing the Moderate to win with a plurality is “utter illogic”. May I remind you that Ross Perot gave us the Clintons for life because he split the vote and Clinton was a “plurality” President. Now, what if 6 more would have been running with basically the same philosophy as G.H.W. Bush and Perot? Romney is a “plurality” nominee. How is that “utter illogic”?
So you’re going to vote for Obama?
The utter illogic is the blaming of the nomination of a moderate Democrat like Romney on those of us who want a true Conservative.
The problem lies with those “Republicans” who voted in the Primaries for Romney. So despite all the (overstated)bickering, why wouldn’t ONE of the better conservatives have come out on top, anyway. Why Romney?
Again, the problem isn’t with conservatives, who are AGAIN without a csndidate, it is with the get along, moderate, uninformed mindset of GOPe voters.
You guys are directing your ire in the wrong direction.
You're going to have to walk me through the logic train of how you came to that conclusion from my post. I was critiquing the sad state of the American voting populace.
I'll walk over nails and hold my nose to vote for the moderate Democrat Romney over the RaceMarxist.
I think we (OK, you) can make millions. We (the country) need an Obama calendar with pictures like this. Do you have 12 of these types of pictures?
I'm telling you, you could make millions.
Your only real vote choice is write in:
“NONE OF THE ABOVE”
I would rather vote for Richard Pryor than these numnuts that are running!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You keep saying this like the Anti-Romney voter is going to stay home, well where I live, you do stay home, but how can I vote against both of them, if I don't vote?
“I am of the mind we will all have to endue the Economic Collapse and/or Debt Default coming to have a chance to start over.”
That’s where I’m at.
Short of prayer, CW II, or a remarkably resourceful leader to walk us out of this economic insanity/fiscal disaster, I think utter fiscal collapse and reboot is the only alternative.
I’ll stop JUST short of what might APPEAR to be the lunacy of saying I’m actually looking forward to it.
I grew up in a free country when a ten or twelve year old could carry a shot gun or 22 rifle and no one was afraid of them. I could ride in the back of a pickup, or drive a tractor, or walk the streets without fear, no one ever locked a door.
Come on sweet potato, tell me how much better off we are now.
There is more evil at power levels than good. But we do have what history we know of the two candidates and judging by that history, the choice is clear.
Good, you can use a little company.
I put your comments under the “message is not accepted category.”
Conservatives need a new label. Young people don’t want to be ‘conservative’ because by it’s very definition it implies timidity. It implies stagnation. Couple that with the fact the the media has successfully glued ‘intolerant’ and ‘bigoted’ to the brand and voila! You can’t convince people to be ‘conservative’ who are sitting on the fence.
I think most fence sitters would respond to a call for liberty. But ‘conservative’ sounds like your parents are going to keep you from being free. “Tea-Party” has also been tarnished by the Rinos and their leftist friends in the media.
Freedom needs to make a come-back. When I think Mitt Romney I don’t think Conservative, Tea Party, or Freedom. I think Wall Street Republican. Team Obama will take advantage of that. “Obama may have screwed up the economy but Mitt will take the carcas and give it to his wealthy Wall Street Friends.” Mitt is not regular people. He’s just not. I’ll vote for him but I won’t like it. And no part of me thinks it will save the country. It will just delay the inevitable. USSA ... and Global Governance. That’s the end game. And I fear that Mitt is right there with them. I’ve never heard him articulate that he plans to restore freedom to the people. He won’t repeal ObamaCare. He won’t even fight for a fair of flat tax. All we have to look forward to is the same dance with a different partner.
You write well sweet potato, to bad you don’t have anything to say, beyond the Quisling rhetoric that you continue to spout. Less freedom is evil and neither candidate will offer more, only to not be as bad. The problem is we have denied God, and if you think a cult religion is solution, then you are either delude or a Mormon, which means you are probably never going to see the reason why Romney is not acceptable.
You guys does not include real conservatives and it certainly does not include me, however you seem to be crossing that line yourself. Six months ago you and sweet potato would have been zotted for your slobbering defense of Romney.
Luntz had a show last week with eight of the freshman class. He gave them ample opportunity to state the problem and offer a solution. Sadly all of them sounded like they had been coached by Ross Perot, they were going to get under the hood and fix it. One of them finally spouted out that Harry Reid would not let them pass a bill, but shut himself down.
Alan West was the opener and Luntz posed several "Are you still using dope" lead ins but West hit it out of the park, even the committed Obamists were shocked because they have never heard him speak. Therein lies the problem.
No doubt he “tried real hard” to achieve those impressive results.
Welp I’ve been on active threads disrupted by what you term “conservative purists.”
At times these types are a pain but I can’t get mad. Us Tea Party types have gotten so puked upon by the GOP Elite. I’m from Delaware and put up with Mike Castle for years before we got sick of the man and primaried him outta there.
I seriously doubt that these conservative purists would be unhappy should Romney step up to the plate and be a great leader. If so then they are not worth the time of day.
Understand there’s a difference between not wanting it and not admitting it.
I’m willing to give Romney the time of day and while I’m at it, let me elaborate on my prognostication of what will happen should Romney start reaching across the aisle and other GOP Blue Blood shenanigans that got us where we are today.
Four years, folks! We’ll have four years to ruminate and discuss all actions by Romney that are liberal, in no way conservative.
There is already a “Tea Party” established, of sorts. Don’t let MSNBC tell you there’s no more tea party. We’re out here and we’re ready to act, we know it if they don’t.
Let Romney start reaching across the aisles and a third party WILL be formed.
I can see it from my house.
Cause if we swallow our convictions and vote for Romney, AND...if Romney starts betraying us as Mike Castle did as he peed upon our feet and told us it was raining....hey, everybody has a limit. The most abused wife, child or animal will rise up and strike back at some point.
The disappointed Tea Party will rise up and all across the fruited plains local and more structured organizations will be formed.
This election will be the LAST election where conservatives will follow the third party rule. Cause if Romney starts governing like a Democrat...WHAT WILL WE HAVE TO LOSE?
And while a new third party might take time to grow and multiply, it will happen.
Comes Romney’s mid-term elections he’ll have a third party to fight against.
I believe this.
I really do.
If this is the case then a third party will never be able to surpass the GOP quickly enough to avoid it simply becoming a mechanism for ensuring 'Rat domination. We don't have ten or fifteen years to hand to the 'Rats while building a whole new conservative party from the ground up. We have six or eight years to make large, fundamental changes or else the ATMs are going to stop spitting out anything worthwhile.
If we are going to shrink the size of the federal government, reform entitlements, cut taxes, cut regulations, end Obamacare, and open up American energy resources for development, and if we are going to do it over the next six or eight years, then we will do it through the GOP.
Damn, Kudlow knows how to open.
It seems to me Romney is the only game in town these days.
I just wish people would stop predicting the Obama demise. We need to spend our waking moments making sure that demise comes to pass. Lots can happen between now and November...not the least of which will be the bogus numbers we will start seeing in the Labor reports.
I am going to pull the level for Mitt, but to think that LK is anything but a republican “homer” is a joke. He has never seen a program by any republican that wasn’t Tony the Tiger GREAT. Larry is not a very good ideaman.
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