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Roberts Switched Views to Uphold Health Care Law (Original CBS Report)
CBS News ^ | Sunday, Juy 1, 2012 | Jan Crawford

Posted on 07/01/2012 12:16:38 PM PDT by kristinn

Chief Justice John Roberts initially sided with the Supreme Court's four conservative justices to strike down the heart of President Obama's health care reform law, the Affordable Care Act, but later changed his position and formed an alliance with liberals to uphold the bulk of the law, according to two sources with specific knowledge of the deliberations.

Roberts then withstood a month-long, desperate campaign to bring him back to his original position, the sources said. Ironically, Justice Anthony Kennedy - believed by many conservatives to be the justice most likely to defect and vote for the law - led the effort to try to bring Roberts back to the fold....

But in this closely-watched case, word of Roberts' unusual shift has spread widely within the Court, and is known among law clerks, chambers' aides and secretaries. It also has stirred the ire of the conservative justices, who believed Roberts was standing with them.

After the historic oral arguments in March, the two knowledgeable sources said, Roberts and the four conservatives were poised to strike down at least the individual mandate. There were other issues being argued - severability and the Medicaid extension - but the mandate was the ballgame.

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It is not known why Roberts changed his view on the mandate and decided to uphold the law. At least one conservative justice tried to get him to explain it, but was unsatisfied with the response, according to a source with knowledge of the conversation.

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Roberts then engaged in his own lobbying effort - trying to persuade at least Justice Kennedy to join his decision so the Court would appear more united in the case. There was a fair amount of give-and-take with Kennedy and other justices, the sources said. One justice, a source said, described it as "arm-twisting."

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To: proudpapa
while at the same time guaranteeing an electoral victory for Romney and the GOP.

Yeah and Obamacare was slam dunk unconstitutional
181 posted on 07/01/2012 3:14:33 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: piytar
I don't think you are correct. There was no "vote" on the Commerce Clause. The reason the bit about the Commerce Clause is considered dicta is because the decision would have been precisely the same, even if the commerce clause was never considered or mentioned. The reference was a mere parenthetical observation made in passing, and unnecessary to the decision, thus considered obiter dictum.

There is a huge body of law going back to the New Deal establishing the (inappropriate) sweep and abusive power of the clause. It won't be "gutted" by a passing comment in a decision about something else (the power to tax), and especially given the shakey nature of the overall opinion in which it is embedded. No justice with any sense is going to want to touch any part of this "majority" opinion for a long long time..

182 posted on 07/01/2012 3:14:38 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: henkster

Only the polls and the election will tell us for sure, but forcing Obama to defend the lie this was not a tax sure seems like a good move to me , whether that was Roberts’ intent or not.


183 posted on 07/01/2012 3:18:14 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: kristinn

Someone got to him and turned him. Plain and simple.


184 posted on 07/01/2012 3:19:30 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: uncbob
Appearances can be deceiving but he looks the part in that pic you posted.

Appearances can be deceiving....indeed. Here's McGreevy as NJ Gov.


185 posted on 07/01/2012 3:19:42 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: faucetman
Jan Crawford, the author of the article, wrote a highly sympathetic treatment of Justice Thomas within her book on the Supreme Court, and she's also spoken out in lectures about Justice Thomas' intellectual contributions to the court.

So I think you're wrong on this one.

186 posted on 07/01/2012 3:20:20 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: uncbob
If true than when he sees the cat is out of the bag he is going to be doing some serious dodging from the glare of the truth Wonder if this news has reached him yet

And with the speculation about his sexual preferences being exposed were used as an incentive to switch things won't be that smooth for him

Wonder if he will ever grant an interview
187 posted on 07/01/2012 3:20:38 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Varsity Flight

The lobby authors, 08 bailout benefactors, will never come off Stratos voluntarily...ever.

Right out of the Cloudminders, zienite i.e fines, threats, duress.


188 posted on 07/01/2012 3:21:13 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: hoosiermama

I don’t think the Bible or any religious consideration influenced Roberts. The more I look at his decision, the less sense it makes.

If he really had wanted to uphold obamacare, he would heve gone with the libs and accepted it on the basis of the Commerce Clause - but he didn’t. I don’t get the feeling that he wanted to uphold it at all. Yet he actually ended up doing something much worse and really muddying the waters.

Frankly, I’m just mystified.


189 posted on 07/01/2012 3:21:13 PM PDT by livius
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To: combat_boots
I ALMOST shouted out something to the effect of, “So, you think I should pay for these drugs?”

Why yes, I suppose you should./s For 80 years the democrat party has run on a one plank platform: "Vote for us-- we'll take other people's money and give it to you."

Still works like a charm.

190 posted on 07/01/2012 3:23:03 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: butterdezillion

Just a thought:
If Roberts had written what is now the decent but was then the majority, maybe he didn’t like what the original decent said. Maybe it did not achieve his goal....To make those in congress, the rats, responcible for their own manipulations ......SO as the highest ranking he writes the second opinion..pointing out that he is aware of their verbal games; calling them on their stripping of the original bill, taxing without using the tax word etc. IOW he out Alinskies them.,,,,

His Message to congress: “You want to play games with the powers given to you by the American people? OK We’ll play!Let me lock you in a cage and call the citizens in to deal with you! Here Bubba!”


191 posted on 07/01/2012 3:23:45 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying then or now!)
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To: Covenantor

McGreevy looks like he would fit right in with that trio in the pic


192 posted on 07/01/2012 3:24:12 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: kristinn

Gthat is all I need to know.


193 posted on 07/01/2012 3:26:02 PM PDT by Shady (There is no separation of powers..they want to ace the people out...)
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To: DesertRhino
"I think he was told he was about to be given the Cain, Palin, Newt, treatment. Didnt want to be the next Governor McGreevey from New Jersey."

Yep...the prevailing force in DC is actually a socialist Federal tsunami. No R or D or branch of "government" has emerged with out the approval of the ruling socialist class.

We are now nothing more than an extension of Europe with central rulers deciding our every move from birth to death....as was planned by the communist party aided by the global investors, years, decades ago.

194 posted on 07/01/2012 3:26:06 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: kristinn
"..The case raised entirely new issues of power. Never before had Congress tried to force Americans to buy a private product; as a result, never before had the Court ruled Congress lacked that power. It was completely uncharted waters..."

And because Roberts is a coward who wanted to win a popularity contest he caved.

195 posted on 07/01/2012 3:26:18 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: jimbo123

If the media had investigated 0bama’s past, WE WOULDN’T BE IN THIS PREDICAMENT BECAUSE HE’D NEVER BEEN PRESIDENT! He is INELIGIBLE to hold office because his father was a British subject.. Roberts’ adopted children are worthy of MORE scrutiny? HELL NO.


196 posted on 07/01/2012 3:26:30 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Covenantor

197 posted on 07/01/2012 3:27:23 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big. Vote Newt!)
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To: SquarePants

I actually agree with you. I think Roberts should have voted with the conservatives. After all, we’re the ones that put him there.Paradoxically, I’m glad we’re on offense on this issue going into the campaign, because Obama had already signaled he was all set to run against the Supreme Court. I’d still rather have Roberts on the Court than the two or three justices the next Presidential term would give Obama a chance to appoint, very likely including Kennedy.


198 posted on 07/01/2012 3:27:33 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: kristinn

One of the most clear-cut examples of judicial political-activism we have ever seen; “We must uphold an unconstitutional law because we must not contradict the criminal conspiracy of the executive and legislative branches of government that gave it to us.”


199 posted on 07/01/2012 3:28:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Army Air Corps

We don’t know what changed his mind.

I have wondered if he ultimately decided to take the ultra-conservative stand and reject judicial activism, refusing to legislate from the bench.

In essence, what Roberts did was hold elected representatives responsible for passing a terrible piece of legislation (which he alludes to in his opinion), bounce it back to them to clean up their mess, but also give them a way to reverse their mistake by ruling the mandate a tax, a budgetary item. which can be repealed with a simple majority.

He also slapped down fradulent use of the Commerce Clause, as in Wickard vs. Filburn, bolstered states 10th Amendment rights with the Medicaid ruling, and handed the Romney campaign a boatload of good campaign material.


200 posted on 07/01/2012 3:29:40 PM PDT by Jedidah
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