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To: Tribune7; rogue yam
I think I follow that. I understand you to be acknowledging that Romney may be bad for conservativism and maybe even as bad as Obama for conservatism, but that it would be impossible for Romney to be worse for conservatism.

It is that last part that folks like me don't concede. I think Romney could easily be worse for conservatism and worse for our country than four more years of Obama. If Obama is elected, I think we face four years of gridlock because all Republicans in the Congress will resist his proposals. If Romney is elected and is actually a conservative or decides to pretend to be conservative (as rogue yam might put it), then we will probably have gridlock because of Democrat resistance in the Senate. However, if Romney is elected and he is a liberal or decides to pretend to be liberal, then he can count on RINO's and Democrats to enact any liberal proposals he might want to enact. He will be able to accomplish what Obama cannot.

For that reason, it is vital to a conservative voter to know now exactly what we can expect from a President Romney. And, speaking for myself only, when I view the videos linked in posts 169 and 172 above, I conclude that Romney probably is a liberal and that, at best, it is utterly impossible for me to know whether he is actually a liberal, a moderate, a conservative, or just a manipulative sociopath with no philosophy.

In addition, I believe that the only way to get the GOP to nominate a reliably conservative candidate is to make folks like Karl Rove understand that the GOP cannot count on conservative support without a conservative candidate. If Romney gets pounded in November, maybe that message will be a bit more clear to GOP leaders.

309 posted on 07/01/2012 8:21:37 AM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Tau Food
I think Romney could easily be worse for conservatism and worse for our country than four more years of Obama.

I couldn't disagree more, but you do make a very important point about complacency and becoming emotionally invested in Romney and endorsing him as a conservative.

The beauty of creating a philosophy about firing presidents means that, hey, in four years it can be dusted off again.

I'm very much afraid of the message that would be sent if we don't fire 0.

317 posted on 07/01/2012 9:18:35 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Oh, the irony)
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