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The Dangerous Self-Delusion of Some Conservatives
markamerica.com ^ | June 30. 2012 | Mark America

Posted on 06/30/2012 10:23:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: mojito
So, what caused the CJ to change is vote at the 11th hour? I think the people of this country are owed an explanation. I'm waiting for one.

I reached the conclusion the morning this decision came down that it could only be two things:

1) Roberts is stark-raving mad.

2) Roberts, being the inside-the-beltway Republican political hack lawyer that he is, decided, probably with some help, that this was the best thing he could do to try and help elect Mitt Romney.

And, since I don't think Roberts is nuts, I settled on number 2. It was a cynical, cruel, unprincipled, unconstitutional political calculation.

141 posted on 06/30/2012 1:13:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Liberty. What a concept. TomHoefling.com)
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To: EternalVigilance
Good Article . Roberts is a liberal/marxist POS who destroyed freedom and the constitution in the U.S.. There is no silver lining.
142 posted on 06/30/2012 1:20:57 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Marcella
I quit posting on Romney threads as there was no control imposed on the Romney people’s language so it was unproductive and waste of time.

There are no controls on the anti-Romney people's language either.

Not a problem? Not a waste of time?

143 posted on 06/30/2012 1:29:52 PM PDT by x
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To: roses of sharon

I’m the least worried guy I know.


144 posted on 06/30/2012 1:43:17 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead
Everytime something bad happens, we got the "all is lost" crowd bitching and moaning and talking about how nothing good can ever exist again.

When was the last time something good happened? We have to go back to last century to find Republicans on the national level that did something that advanced a conservative agenda.

When are you going to wake up and realize electing RINOs like the Bushes and Romney does more harm than good?

The whole Bush Presidency now that Roberts has gone liberal was a disaster. Romney is even more liberal, dishonest and untrustworthy than Bush was.

I'm not giving up, BTW. I favor building a conservative majority in Congress and waiting for a Scott Walker or another conservative to win the nomination and Presidency in 2016.

145 posted on 06/30/2012 1:59:59 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: rogue yam
We defeat every Democrat on the ballot on November 6th, and then we take it from there.

Then, Romney gets in, convinces RINOs in Congress to enact an Obama-lite agenda, the agenda fails, Republicans are routed and lose control of Congress in 2014 and a Democrat is elected President in 2016. Wash. Rinse. And repeat.

If that happens, you damn well better acknowledge you were wrong and realize voting for Republicans like the Bushes and Romney is the problem, not the solution. Some us already know that.

146 posted on 06/30/2012 2:04:47 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: EternalVigilance
Great thread!
147 posted on 06/30/2012 2:06:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: dead
Are elections now irrelevant or do they still matter?

They do and that is why conservatives must vote for conservatives and stop pretending RINOs aren't going to undermine conservatism from within the Republican party and move the nation to the left. It's a strategy that has NEVER worked. Nixon and Bushes were a disaster. Why would you expect Romney to be any better?

148 posted on 06/30/2012 2:11:42 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Jim Robinson

I doubt if RINO Romney cares enough to want to fix it...


149 posted on 06/30/2012 2:13:21 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: dead

Betryal does that to people.


150 posted on 06/30/2012 2:16:20 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: rogue yam
So Free Republic is now to be a site predicated on hopelessness and despair?

Some of our wise enough to understand hope for conservatism doesn't lay in the hands of Republicans like Mitt Romney, who is a flip-flopping liar with a record to the left of Bill Clinton.

And, again, we're not giving up. We're simply refuse to vote for Republicans clearly hostile toward conservatism. We will continue to elect conservatives to Congress and that state level and are willing to wait for a conservative like Scott Walker to win the nomination and Presidency in 2016.

151 posted on 06/30/2012 2:18:15 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: rogue yam
I will obey Him, and continue to fight for what I believe is right.

God is telling you to vote for the father of gay marriage, a man that used to attend Planned Parenthood fundraisers and included $50 abortions in his healthcare legislation? No, He isn't. Voting for a candidate like that is sinful.

152 posted on 06/30/2012 2:21:21 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: dead

>> Everytime something bad happens, we got the “all is lost” crowd bitching and moaning and talking about how nothing good can ever exist again.

>> Then start effing shooting!

Shoot? Hell, they won’t even vote.

These ideologues aren’t serious about jack. No alternatives, no possibilities, no considerations. They’re useless defeatists. The refuse to lead, they refuse to follow.


153 posted on 06/30/2012 2:21:40 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: rogue yam
Case in point: your claim that Romney is "the most liberal governor in history". Everyone here knows that this is just not so.

Do you really want to compare Romney's record in Massachusetts with Bill Clinton's in Arkansas? If you did, you'll find Clinton was more conservative than Romney as governor.

154 posted on 06/30/2012 2:24:18 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Gene Eric
These ideologues aren’t serious about jack.

So, anyone who won't vote for a pro-choice democrat socialist is now an "ideologue," and is not serious? Interesting definitions.

No alternatives, no possibilities, no considerations.

Not true.

155 posted on 06/30/2012 2:33:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Liberty. What a concept. TomHoefling.com)
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To: dead
It’s like a French battlefield around here lately, with all the white flags being waved.

Not so sure it's white flags vs. red flags - some are grasping at straws to find an upside, but the awakening of the People is only useful if they take appropriate action. November will be the puddin of proof and hopefully some Governors will step headlong into the fray and serve as rallying points for Tea Party Conservatives to gather round.

156 posted on 06/30/2012 2:34:47 PM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: trebb

I believe that things may get moving after the 4th of July vacation period. The pot has been stirred, the heat turned up, in more ways than one, and November is not a conservative’s only hope.


157 posted on 06/30/2012 2:38:23 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: rogue yam

I’m no fan of the ACA decision, Mitt Romney, or really so much of what the GOP has been doing lately (actually, I think I could run the state party better than the folks who’ve been doing it). But anybody on here who thinks the Mittster is the most liberal governor in history, let them come to California. I give you Edmund Gerald Brown, Junior, a.k.a. Jerry, a.k.a. Moonbeam. We...uh...win.


158 posted on 06/30/2012 2:49:10 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: RichInOC
Mittster is the most liberal governor in history, let them come to California. I give you Edmund Gerald Brown, Junior, a.k.a. Jerry, a.k.a. Moonbeam.

Hell, Romney doesn't even win most liberal (R) governor. Remember Ah-nold Schwarzen-kennedy??? California still wins, er, loses, er, whatever....

159 posted on 06/30/2012 2:52:44 PM PDT by ssaftler (Obama 2008: "Hope and Change" Obama 2012: "Excuses and Blame")
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To: Resettozero
I believe that things may get moving after the 4th of July vacation period. The pot has been stirred, the heat turned up, in more ways than one, and November is not a conservative’s only hope.

I believe that Independence Day would serve as a great launching pad instead of a reason to put it off - let's hope some Conservative Governors use it as a platform to publicly state they will fight this Federal overreach with everything at their disposal...

160 posted on 06/30/2012 3:01:43 PM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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