Posted on 06/30/2012 8:36:03 AM PDT by Kaslin
The Supreme Court did not save us from ourselves, at least not entirely. That is still up to us, the people.
When the American people elected Barack Obama and large Democrat majorities, the die was cast. ObamaCare was coming. Popular or not, constitutional or not, affordable or not, it didn't matter. They were going to pass it, and then the rest of us could find out what they put in it.
After the Democrats shoved the 2700 pages of ObamaCare down our throats -- and we did find out how expensive, controlling, and coercive the legislation was -- a majority of Americans wanted the Supreme Court to toss it aside as unconstitutional.
In a 5-4 decision, the Court did not deem it a legal overreach by the Democrats. While I would have agreed with the minority (Scalia, Alito, Thomas, Kennedy), I respect the decision.
For those of us who originally disagreed with ObamaCare and now disagree with the majority opinion of the SCOTUS, the challenge remains the same as it would have been had the Court ruled otherwise. We need to elect Mitt Romney and House and Senate majorities that will repeal ObamaCare and replace it with free-market, pro-liberty solutions.
In a very real way, the Court just put the responsibility back on the voters to re-establish government of, by, and for the people. In the end, we get the government – and policies that go with it – that we deserve. So, who will we elect as our representative leaders in November? The importance of this election – already historic – just grew even greater.
As the nation absorbs and deciphers the SCOTUS ruling on ObamaCare, we thought our readers would find the following excerpts from NRO's analysis insightful. Included is a link to the entire editorial.
Posted June 28, 2012, 2:00PM-ET
National Review Online
By The Editors
…Rarely has the maxim that the power to tax is the power to destroy been so apt, a portion of liberty being the direct object in this case.
What the Court has done is not so much to declare the mandate constitutional as to declare that it is not a mandate at all, any more than the mortgage-interest deduction in the tax code is a mandate to buy a house. Congress would almost surely have been within its constitutional powers to tax the uninsured more than the insured. Very few people doubt that it could, for example, create a tax credit for the purchase of insurance, which would have precisely that effect. But Obamacare, as written, does more than that. The law repeatedly speaks in terms of a “requirement” to buy insurance, it says that individuals “shall” buy it, and it levies a “penalty” on those who refuse. As the conservative dissent points out, these are the hallmarks of a “regulatory penalty, not a tax.”…
It now falls to the Republicans, and especially to Mitt Romney, to make the case for the repeal of the law and for its replacement by something better than either it or the health-care policies that preceded it…Opponents should take heart: The law remains unpopular. Let the president and his partisans ring their bells today, and let us work to make sure that they are wringing their hands come November. Read more.
I don't, I doubt the four dissenters do, and I even doubt Roberts does. He knows it was a silly, convoluted, ridiculous finding for political reasons. He sold his soul, and sold out liberty.
Thanks Kaslin.
More KoolAid?
Works for me.
It’s been imperative to elect Romney for a long time.
I kept waiting for Obama to do the One More Thing that would convince some of the holdouts here that we have to get rid of him.
One More Things kept happening but they clung to their imaginary lifeboat.
Maybe this is finally it.
Let’s hope so.
well said, good place to bump the thread
If you think that Romney will fix it, you are barking up the wrong tree.During the campaign, he will vow and swear that his first official act will be to repeal it. Should and it is a big should he be elected,the morning after the election he will think about it, laught about it, and forget about it.
Romney is windsock. He has no core principles that guide him, only his desire to succeed. We can make him blow in the right direction so he can be a “successful” president.
He is our only real choice at this point anyway, so we play the hand we have.
or you could not vote at all and spin the wheel of chance.maybe after two terms we’ll REALLY dislike obama.
Signed,
Antiobamunist
Unfortunately, there is no "right" tree.
Ask yourself a simple question - of the two candidates that have a possibility of winning the election in November, which one would you prefer? I know, we're right at the same point we've been in every election since Reagan's second term, but that's the choice we've got. The republican party succeeded in dividing and conquering the conservative vote again, and we're stuck with Romney as a result.
I will hold my nose and vote for Romney. At least he's not a communist.
More than Romney, we need the House and the Senate both. Otherwise it’s just a stalemate which leaves this travesty of law in place.
I admit—this will make it easier to vote for Mitt-—but he was certainly not my first choice.
But that is neither here nor there because I am not voting for Romney. Why? Because I do not vote for baby killers. I do not vote for those who support the homosexual agenda. I do not vote for proven liars.
And again, since obamacare is modeled after Romneycare, other than wishful thinking, what evidence suggests that Romney will repeal it?
Under the system of Government we were once under, laws were enacted and repealed by the Leglislative Branch. If, and again it is a big if, Romney should wit the election, He would be the head of the Executive Brance. Which enforces enacted laws.
Romney will not repeal ObamaCare.
Why? Because the Senate is always the issue. There are 37 Dems that are safe or not up for election. Add to that 5 who are likely Dem and 5 who are leaning Dem, and you get a grand total of 47.
Without even considering the Republicans, we know that 41 votes is insurmountable given the Senate filibuster rules.
Right now RCP says there are 47 Dems, 8 tossups, and 45 Republicans based on the most recent polling.
To repeal ObamaCare the Republicans need to hold the House, Pluse Defeat Obama, and now the most difficult hurdle...they have to keep the Dems from adding only 4 seats to those 37 that are either safe or not up for election.
And that’s assuming that all of the Republican senators are true-blue conservative, non-rinos.
Sorry, America, but that ain’t happening.
Obama thanks you for your support.
Liars, backstabbers, and the AUTHOR of ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE
thanks YOU for your support.
Deathcare was passed by the reconciliation process, which needs 51 votes. It can be repealed through the same process.
Unfortunately, all we have is the shape-shifting Romney's word that he'll repeal the legislation his policies helped draft.
Go tell it to the Republican Party.
Anything can be filibustered.
Maybe we’re wrong to assume ObamaCare can’t be repealed until Mitt Romney is elected.
If the mandate is a tax, it’s repeal would have to be initiated in the House, where Republicans have a strong majority. And, since it’s a tax, a simple majority in the Senate would be sufficient to repeal it since 60-vote majorities are not required to enact tax-related measures.
Although Democrats have a slight majority in the Senate, Democratic Senators running for re-election this year would be under extreme pressure to vote for the mandate’s repeal, in order to avoid suffering the fate of their former colleagues whose 2009 pro-ObamaCare votes caused them to be defeated in landslide numbers in 2010. It’s not unlikely that four or five Democratic Senators who want to keep their jobs would vote with the pro-repeal Republicans. And that would do it.
John Boehner already has a repeal vote scheduled for the House in about a week. Things will get very interesting, and our side has a respectable chance of winning.
Thank you for your well thought out and reasonable response.
wow.
just wow.
We need to overturn Obama care so badly, we want to elect the man who gave Massachusetts ROMNEY CARE and made it illegal to not have insurance
by electing the man whose halth care plan was the blueprint for Obama care, we will do away with Obama care
Electing the creator of the lightbulb to keep the cave dark is not logical
God Help us!
Hey, sport, got a better suggestion?
God is displaying a very warped sense of humor, sending us Romney to defeat OblamoDeathWarrants. Why couldn’t He have sent us Ronald Reagan II?
because we're a nation that makes people rich by grinding 1 million unborn babies a year into mincemeat and flushing them down the toilet.
If you were God, what would you do?
Reconciliation bills cannot be filibustered because their time of debate is limited by the Congressional Budget Act.
http://www.brookings.edu/research/articles/2009/04/20-budget-mann
http://www.brookings.edu/research/opinions/2010/01/25-reconciliation-binder
The article is 100% correct: it is imperative that we elect Romney, not just to overturn obamacare, but to appoint justices.
If Obama gets to appoint more justices to high courts, including the Supreme Court, freedom is DEAD.
It’s been imperative to elect Romney for a long time.
I kept waiting for Obama to do the One More Thing that would convince some of the holdouts here that we have to get rid of him.
One More Things kept happening but they clung to their imaginary lifeboat.
Maybe this is finally it.
Let’s hope so.
Sorry, ain't gonna happen.
First of all, they HATE Mittens with a passion, probably, I'm guessing, cuz many are frustrated "Paul-Bots," who are still "grieving" over their loss
Secondly, they have an IRRATIONAL (why I don't know and NONE has seen fit to try and explain why?) FEAR and HATRED for Mormons.
Moreover, they are living in "Delusional-ville" whereby they think that (provided we take back the Senate and hold the House)--and IN SPITE OF THE DOZEN OR SO RINO'S in the Senate--the Republi-Tards will "Keep Dear Leader in Check,".....
....then in 2016, we can find/nominate a 100% Conservative, dontcha know?
And LAST BUT NOT LEAST, being "REAL" Christians (as opposed to us "Make Believe" ones) they are STANDING ON "PRINCIPLES!"
Of course, they REFUSE to even consider that the way things are going, we will probably NOT have an United States of America as we know it in 2016.
It was a dopey decision. First Roberts ruled that the penalty wasn’t a tax, then he ruled that it was. And he played Twister to come to the conclusion that it was a tax.
Yes, indeed, we will be sooooo much better off with Obama getting a second term, is that your point?!
You like four more years of Obama?
you like heroin instead of crack?
It’s salami slicing tactics. The Communists did it in Hungary and Czechoslovakia to seize power as well.
Conservatives are too sore because they can’t magically resolve every issue in one election, meanwhile the leftists keep building their statist nightmare brick by brick.
They didn’t build the welfare state in 4 years, and it sure as hell isn’t going to be undone in one administration. That’s the truth.
While we’re waiting for God to help us, we have to help ourselves by voting for the only guy who can beat him.
You play the hand you are dealt.
Conservatives couldn’t unite behind one candidate, so we ended up with Romney.
Right now the ONLY choice is Obama or Romney.
Any conservative should consider that a vote not cast, or cast for a third party candidate may be THE vote that helps Obama get reelected. Just remember the Bush v Gore election — 500 votes made the difference!
Yes. You’re right and I’m wrong. Reconciliation cannot be filibustered.
However...the repeal of RomneyCare wouldn’t be automatic because it was originally passed by reconciliation. It would be a new bill and a new Senate, and it would have to itself meet the requirements to qualify to be eligible for reconciliation.
Most importantly, the Repubs would have to control the Senate even for that to happen. It’s possible with a 48 Dem, 8 tossup, 45 republican current election map, but it’s easier for the Dems to retain control than for the republicans to take it.
Finally, the Senate bill itself was not passed by reconciliation...it passed by a 60-39 vote in the Senate, so reconciliation wasn’t needed.
It was the Senate/House conference refinement of the bill with the House that required reconcilation.
As always, that assumes a rino-proof Senate. None of the rinos had to show their true colors in the original vote, because the dems had 60 votes already. The rinos were able to stay hidden.
As opposed to those who are working diligently (WITH DEAR LEADER'S TACICT SUPPORT) to DESTROY OUR REPUBLIC?
COME ON Diogenesis, GROW A PAIR and give us some "FACTS" as to HOW and WHY, Mittens is more DANGEROUS and a THREAT to our Republic than is Dear Leader?
The Muslim Brotherhood Agenda as outlined in 1991 in Phildelphia:
Though we are all aware of Obama's proclivity towards appeasing Islam and Islamic Republics; his negotiating with our enemies (Taliban); his release of captured Terrorists; his support of the "Arab Spring" in the ME which has led to the takeover of those countries by Radical Islamists; etc, many are not aware of what he has done to facilitate their (Islamists) acceptance and appointment to positions of "trust" within our own Government
Here are but 6 of those individuals:
Islam is a frontal attack on Christianity and Judaism and its time we understood this threat and called it what it is. We are not in a “war on terror”, which so many politically correct politicians would have us believe.
The whole world is, and has been for 1,400 years, in a WAR AGAINST ISLAM! If we do not stand up against this cancerous enemy, whose ultimate goal is to bring the entire world into submission to Islam and have all people worship none but Allah, then Western Civilization and human freedom as we know it will soon cease to exist.
America faces in addition to the threat of violent jihad another, even more toxic danger – a stealthy and pre-violent form of warfare aimed at destroying our constitutional form of democratic government and free society. The Muslim Brotherhood is the prime-mover behind this seditious campaign, which it calls “civilization jihad.”
For a detailed description of who these individuals pictured above are, their goals and what damage they have done and the real threat they pose, see the following:
Muslim Brotherhood in America Part 8: Team Obama and the Islamists
IF after viewing this video, one does not come away with the resolve to do whatever it takes to defeat Barack Hussein Obama, then I worry about the future of our Great Republic.
PS: One should at least bookmark this most enlightening, informative, well researched and documented 10-part Series by Frank Gaffney (Muslim Brotherhood in America) and watch all of it as soon as time permits.
from page 261 of the paperback edition of “The Audacity of Hope.
All it takes for .....
..... to triumph is for good men to do nothing.......!"
....you know, like staying home or writing in someone's name which is the same thing as affirmatively, voting for the closest most of us will ever come to WITNESSING PURE EVIL while still alive...Barack, Barry, Hussein, Soetoro, Obama.
"Oh yeah, we'll stand on 'PRINCIPLES' and show them what's what, then in 2016, we will really, REALLY, work to elect a true Conservative....."
Yeah, right, provided there is still a United States of America left as we used to know it.
Roman statesman and political theorist Marcus Tullius Cicero
I ain’t drinking the kool-aid either.
If the GOP wants to put Romney in, they’ll do it without me.
But you are happy to help Obama get reelected.
Great “conservative” position. :(
I do not disagree. However, you have two choices. A third choice does not exise, except insofar as to tacitly benefit Obama. Therefore, you have only two choices.
We are forced to deal with degrees of losing.
The only hope is to have such a mighty number of voices in the House and Senate that a slime like Romney will be forced to do the right thing.
Interesting point !
Then I’ll change my hopes ... instead of hoping THEY see the light, I’ll start hoping they are very few in number.
(I think they are, just very dedicated and determined to post everywhere)
You do NOT win by choosing a PHONEY LIAR who has history
of helping the OTHER SIDE, and in the case
of Team Romney, simply LYING about it.
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It isn't about our nation or freedom with any of these guys. They've just found an outlet that lets them pretend their pride and petulance is principle. They are weak and ill. |
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