Posted on 06/27/2012 5:49:48 AM PDT by NCjim
A court in Germany has ruled that circumcising young boys for religious reasons amounts to bodily harm.
In a decision that has caused outrage among Jewish and Muslim groups, the court said that a child's right to physical integrity trumps religious and parental rights.
The case involved a doctor who carried out a circumcision on a four year-old that led to medical complications.
Thousands of Muslim and Jewish boys are circumcised in Germany every year.
Although male circumcision - unlike female circumcision - is not illegal in Germany, the court's judgement said the "fundamental right of the child to bodily integrity outweighed the fundamental rights of the parents".
Circumcision, it decided, contravenes "interests of the child to decide later in life on his religious beliefs".
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
“I’ve always noticed gays are the ones obsessed with stopping circumcision.”
So all western pediatric groups are gay because they oppose circumcision?
Just like the AMA that removed homosexuality from the list of mental diseases, yes, they do have an agenda.
different issue.
eventually the baby, normally, leaves the womb.
in the US nobody credible is debating the religion issue. Only the much debated and never substantiated “medical” issue. (see also soap meet water)
For some this debate is over, it is only a next generation debate. (for those in rio linda, there are adults who convert to judism and have the surgery performed)
different issue.
eventually the baby, normally, leaves the womb.
in the US nobody credible is debating the religion issue. Only the much debated and never substantiated “medical” issue. (see also soap meet water)
For some this debate is over, it is only a next generation debate. (for those in rio linda, there are adults who convert to judism and have the surgery performed)
“different issue”
Nope. I’ve noticed a 100% overlap between people who would not hesitate to kill a child the last day he is in the womb and make a fit over circumcisin.
http://www.jewsagainstcircumcision.org/
We are a group of educated and enlightened Jews who realize that the barbaric, primitive, torturous, and mutilating practice of circumcision has no place in modern Judaism.
Rabbi Moses Maimonides himself acknowledged that circumcision is done to desensitize the penis and curb masturbation.
Jews are some of the smartest people in the world. We are 1/3rd of 1% of the population, yet we hold 33% of Nobel prizes. We are smart enough to understand that mutilating a little boys' penis is not an acceptable practice in modern times.
A current ballot measure in San Francisco seeks to ban circumcision with no religious exception. Many people have called this ballot anti-semitic and anti-muslim. This is simply not true. All babies deserve genital integrity and autonomy over their bodies. No one has the right to make a decision for a child to alter his body for non-medical reasons, including religion. Religous Freedom does not give one the right to mutilate someone elses's body, even if that person is their child. Parents only have the right to make medically valid decisions for their minor child, like a tonsillectomy or appendectomy. Circumcision is not medically valid.
Have at it.
It would of worked better if your parents kept your penis in its original condition. Without the foreskin, the head of the penis rubs against your clothing your entire life, desinsitizing it. There is a reason the tip of your penis comes with it’s own built in protcetive cover.
Hmmmmm, should I listen to some random penis-obsessed socialist on the internet, or should I continue to follow the 3,500 years of traditions of my people, of which circumcision is one, that have kept us together as a people despite the repeated attempts to kill us from penis-obsessed socialist?
Gosh, so hard to make up my mind!
Now go back to DU and celebrate ObamaCare and the impending collapse of your country.
Thanks for making my case with your stupid, puerile answer.
Lameluke: Well, you are probably right. Male circumcision WAS often done for "health" reasons. Female circumcision is done DELIBERATELY to take away the female's possible pleasure. At least, that's what the morons say who still do it in Africa.
However, since science calls them BOTH "circumcision" because of the NATURE of the process your remark seems worthless.
Besides, if it's the pain factor, how do YOU know how it feels for a clitoridectomy?
From Wikipedia: Clitoridectomy is the surgical removal of the clitoris. It is rarely needed as a therapeutic medical procedure, such as when cancer has developed in or spread to the clitoris.
Most removals of the clitoris occur as female genital mutilation, defined by the World Health Organisation as "all procedures involving partial or total removal of the external female genitalia or other injury to the female genital organs whether for cultural, religious or other non-therapeutic reasons."
It was once used to curb female masturbation. This procedure is also ritual in certain tribes such as the Maasai in Kenya and Tanzania.
P.S. Non-theraputic reasons: now the US doesn't AUTOMATICALLY do male circumcisions anymore because now it's recognized as unnecessary for males.
P.P.S. It's GOTTA hurt, no matter what. In Africa, there is no sedative or numbing process for the baby girl.
I don't think that you are disgusting...just that you are a lamebrain.
If this is a “pain” issue for you, not only are you disgusting, you are stupid.
If you think that made your point (which I guess, is banning Judaism or modifying Judaism to fit your personal view of the world), you are but one step away from being a Nazi.
Not quite there, but you will get there.
You already hate Jewish practices, and apparently believe the government has the power to stop them.
So, keep going. With ObamaCare, you might get your wish.
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