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Do Democrats Have a Shot at the House?
New York Times ^ | June 23, 2012 | by Nate Silver

Posted on 06/23/2012 7:04:05 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

So far this election season we have written very little about the race for the House of Representatives. In part this is because this looks to be less dramatic than the presidential race — where Barack Obama has only a slight edge, in my view — or the race for the Senate, which looks increasingly like a tossup.

In the House, by contrast, Republicans are reasonably clear favorites to maintain their majority.

Still, the House is probably more difficult to analyze than the battle for the Senate or the presidential race. Democrats, in my view, do retain something of an upside case that revolves around the possibility that anti-incumbent sentiment could manifest itself in a large amount of Congressional turnover.

In short, the signs so far are that Republican incumbents are holding up well enough in the House, and that there is not much of a wave breaking in either direction. But, it is quite early, and I do not think we have a keen sense yet of how anti-Congressional sentiment might translate into individual races. Betting markets give Democrats about 4-to-1 odds against re-claiming the House. This is not completely out of line, but I might take Democrats’ side of the bet just on the general principle of long uncertainty early in a political cycle.

(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2012

1 posted on 06/23/2012 7:04:13 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The answer is no!


2 posted on 06/23/2012 7:06:04 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who is this guy Silver? He is clearly whistling past the Graveyard.


3 posted on 06/23/2012 7:07:27 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Even with a Romney/Rino ticket and a McCain like performance, Tea-vangelicals have learned the lesson. They will not stay home this time. They will also NOT vote FOR Romney, but they will vote down ballot.’

I expect the house and senate to go GOP.


4 posted on 06/23/2012 7:08:24 AM PDT by Waywardson (If you fear Obama..... vote for Romney. If you fear God... DON'T !)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

He must be channeling with Pelosi!


5 posted on 06/23/2012 7:09:06 AM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: Doofer

Minority status for a while. Real Americans have had enough of union goons, Nancys wac a doodle antics and Oh yea Obama. Who ever, what ever He is.
The new media will give the next rat a full examination.


6 posted on 06/23/2012 7:10:29 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Another NYT Marxist fantasizing about a Democrat sweep in Nov. If Obama wins, this country will plunge into a full-blown depression before his re-immaculation in January. Businesses will close, and the real unemployment rate will be impossible for the Obamabots to hide.

Save every penny you can now. You may be happy you did.


7 posted on 06/23/2012 7:15:07 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Republicans will probably have all 3. However, the Senate will be close and the Democrats will filibuster everything so nothing will get done as always. They will say it is payback for Republicans doing it for the last four years. It is an endless cycle and the only ones hurt are the voters.


8 posted on 06/23/2012 7:15:20 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Waywardson

that is my plan! to many important down ticket races to sit it out simply because I do not support Romney.


9 posted on 06/23/2012 7:15:48 AM PDT by cableguymn (If your policies are pushing the economy in to headwinds.. TURN YOUR POLICY AROUND!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The NY Slimes is hopeing and praying (to what I don’t know) again. The Dems have about the same chance of retaking the house as the NY Slimes has selling papers again.


10 posted on 06/23/2012 7:16:15 AM PDT by Buck-I-Guy
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Who is this guy Silver? He is clearly whistling past the Graveyard.

He's a nerdy-looking statistician with a degree in Economics from U of Chicago.

He developed a statistical model for managing the careers of baseball players. It's called PECOTA.

More recently, his "models" correctly predicted the outcome of the 2008 Presidential election. This made him a media darling, and (I suspect) has gotten him a lot of social action of a type he once only obtained while holding a magazine one-handed.

11 posted on 06/23/2012 7:20:51 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

IpFirst laugh of the day!


12 posted on 06/23/2012 7:24:04 AM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nope.


13 posted on 06/23/2012 7:27:02 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Steely Tom
More recently, his “models” correctly predicted the outcome of the 2008 Presidential election

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Plus he correctly predicted the outcome of the 2008 election? Umm..who didn't?

14 posted on 06/23/2012 7:30:37 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Steely Tom

Somehow predicting the 2008 Presidential outcome does not impress me. I had a feeling it would be the 0 sometime before it happened. How did he do in the 2010 prediction derby? If he predicted a flip of the house and a retention of the senate by the dims I would give him more credence.


15 posted on 06/23/2012 7:33:35 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Do Democrats Have a Shot at the House?


"Nancy, all you have to do is strike yourself three times in the head, and say 'There's no place like home'"

"There's no place like home!"


16 posted on 06/23/2012 7:40:36 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: reefdiver
Real Americans have had enough of union goons, Nancys wac a doodle antics

Especially wac a doodle hypocrisy.

UNITED FARM WORKERS has been informed that Nancy Pelosi does not use union labor at her vineyard
17 posted on 06/23/2012 7:42:24 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: napscoordinator

I guess it will be time to do the slimy reid and make everything 51 votes


18 posted on 06/23/2012 7:43:23 AM PDT by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: SmokingJoe

ME!!!!. I could not believe that that this country would vote for barry. I was not a believer until Indiana came in


19 posted on 06/23/2012 7:45:19 AM PDT by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They just get sillier and sillier


20 posted on 06/23/2012 7:47:39 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Who is this guy Silver? He is clearly whistling past the Graveyard.

Yes; like the folks who think another Obama term will be just fine if it means Romney loses.

21 posted on 06/23/2012 7:50:19 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Waywardson
Even with a Romney/Rino ticket and a McCain like performance, Tea-vangelicals have learned the lesson. They will not stay home this time. They will also NOT vote FOR Romney, but they will vote down ballot.’

If you will shoot at the trees because you hate your unit leader more than you hate the onrushing enemy, you have not learned "the lesson" from 2008. Obama appreciates the half vote that you will grant him by "NOT" voting for Romney. And many of your shipmates will suffer with you as a consequence of your principled gesture. I had hoped our guys were too smart to read those enemy pamphlets...

22 posted on 06/23/2012 7:58:10 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: xp38
Somehow predicting the 2008 Presidential outcome does not impress me.

Nor me.

But I don't really think it's people like you and me that he's looking to impress.

23 posted on 06/23/2012 8:02:37 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Silver’s blog is totally flawed because of his faulty generic ballot premise. His assumption that the Country is currently 50-50 is bogus if you trust Scott Rasmussen’s accuracy. Rasmussen has the GOP +7 this week. If the spread is anywhere close to 7% this November, Silver will be double-dosing the Prozac election night.


24 posted on 06/23/2012 8:15:52 AM PDT by Kahuna
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Who is this guy Silver? He is clearly whistling past the Graveyard.

He is the favorite election forecaster of the Left. I've read most of what he writes, so let me interepret the first paragraph of the article for you.

So far this election season we have written very little about the race for the House of Representatives. In part this is because this looks to be less dramatic than the presidential race — where Barack Obama has only a slight edge, in my view

Meaning, "Obama is in serious trouble"

— or the race for the Senate, which looks increasingly like a tossup.

Meaning, "The GOP is likely to take control"

In the House, by contrast, Republicans are reasonably clear favorites to maintain their majority.

Meaning, "The Democrats don't have a snowball's chance in Hell of retaking the House."

That should help. :)

25 posted on 06/23/2012 8:33:14 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (What did the President know and when did he know it?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The GOP will have the White House and both branches of Congress. Get used to it, Slimes.

That’s the good news. The bad news is, I know that Romney, Senate Majority Leader McConnell and Speaker Boehner will waste the opportunity. Obama-Reed-Pelosi took advantage to pass everything they wanted. I have no faith that Romney-McConnell-Boehner will do more than just repeal Obamacare (which is a good start).

But they need to disband TSA, decomissiong Homeland Security, open up drilling, allow buying insurance across state lines, hamstring EPA, HHS, Education and Energy. Commission a real study that puts a wood stake in the AGW theory once and for all. Authorize Keystone Pipeline and circumvent EPA to do it. Massively scale back business regulations.


26 posted on 06/23/2012 8:34:05 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Steely Tom

I correctly predicted the 2008 election outcome back in 2006, when the GOP got slaughtered in the mid terms.


27 posted on 06/23/2012 8:36:23 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I think Nate Silver is the son of a famous actor from the 1950s, Hiyo Silver.


28 posted on 06/23/2012 8:41:21 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s a pubbie year!! Notice how many democRATS are refusing to go to Bam’s coronation....the rats are jumping off a sinking ship. The people have had it and the sooner Bam is dumped off the dole the better.


29 posted on 06/23/2012 8:57:52 AM PDT by kenmcg (How)
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To: italianquaker

“ME!!!!. I could not believe that that this country would vote for barry. I was not a believer until Indiana came in”

Me too. My opinion of America changed permanently that day.

It would be different if I thought Americans had been hoodwinked. But this man’s “record” was there for all interested to see. Based on his sparse voting record alone, along with his recorded rhetoric and personal history, he shouldn’t have been able to be elected to ANYTHING.

I still can’t believe it.


30 posted on 06/23/2012 9:17:40 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Always A Marine

If you remain ignorant of the fact that your CO is sending you on suicide missions because he has sold out to the enemy you will lose the entire WAR.


31 posted on 06/23/2012 9:27:54 AM PDT by Waywardson (If you fear Obama..... vote for Romney. If you fear God... DON'T !)
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To: Waywardson
We have a clear choice between two candidates, one of whom will be the next President. There are only four options (with three statistical outcomes) for a Conservative voter:
1. Vote for the Republican (GOP +1)
2. Vote for the Democrat (DEM +1)
3. Vote for a third party candidate (DEM +.5)
4. Do note vote for President (DEM +.5)

Whether we like it or not, Romney won the GOP nomination - and neither of our preferred candidates did. Now the choice is between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama. And no matter which of the four options you decide to take in November, you will be giving at least part of your vote to one of them.

32 posted on 06/23/2012 9:59:56 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Always A Marine

Not at all true.

A lie.

Not voting for Romney is no more voting for Obama, than NOT voting for Obama is voting FOR Romney.

Watch. Some 30 million of us will NOT vote FOR either EVIL.

You do what you do, but as for me and my house, no more compromise, no more lessor evils, no more lies, no more betrayals. If any candidate doesn’t represent truth, to hell with them.


33 posted on 06/23/2012 12:01:19 PM PDT by Waywardson (If you fear Obama..... vote for Romney. If you fear God... DON'T !)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We will pick up seats.


34 posted on 06/23/2012 12:25:45 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Persevero
Historians will be scratching their heads forever over his election wondering why it happened.

But it was simply a reaction to Bush and McCain's refusal to actually run like he wanted to be President.

35 posted on 06/23/2012 12:30:00 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Waywardson
That is a nice sentiment, but in a two Party system it isn't true.

One of those two men will be elected.

36 posted on 06/23/2012 12:32:12 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No unless the question refers to whether they can be the janitors of the House. The Rasmussen generic is 45/38 which indicates at least a 20 seat Democrat loss. It would mean a 60 seat loss except that we just had that and there are only just so many possible pickups. We won’t take Plastic Face’s seat but lots of Democrats are in big danger. Silver is a schmuck.


37 posted on 06/23/2012 1:20:49 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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