"Why does it say 9...9...9... right here?"
Posted on 06/22/2012 9:27:36 AM PDT by Perseverando
Exclusive: Joseph Farah explains why he won't buckle on Obama eligibility issue
It’s clear Republicans in office and seeking office this year are not going to attack Barack Obama where he is most vulnerable – his very legitimacy to hold office under the Constitution as a “natural born citizen.”
He’s not a natural born citizen.
At least by his own admission, he was a dual citizen at birth. Of course, Obama is not known for telling the truth – or even the same lie.
Prior to presidential ambitions he apparently got in 2007, he and his literary surrogates boasted of his being “Kenyan-born.” I don’t know if that story was true or not. But it really doesn’t matter. It also doesn’t matter where he was born, but there is great suspicion and plenty of evidence to suggest he is lying with his new cover story about a Hawaiian birth.
But let’s suppose for a moment that the evidence of Obama’s ultimate election fraud becomes overwhelming after he leaves office in 2013, assuming he is defeated and has the decency to do what all past defeated presidents have done throughout American history.
What then?
What will it tell the American people about the enabling Republicans who were too afraid to challenge Obama when it really counted?
What will it mean for all of the legislation Obama signed during his four years in office?
What will it mean for the U.S. Supreme Court justices appointed for life terms by Obama?
What if the indisputable facts become widely known – or perhaps even proven in a court of law?
Will Republicans just go on with business as usual?
Will it change the course of American history?
Or will we still be in a position where we just can’t talk about matters of constitutional
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
The truth is hate to those that hate the truth.
Freep on!!
What if... the Mercun Peepul actually cared?
Every congress person in D.C. KNOWS he’s not eligible. That means every congress person in D.C. is either a coward or believes the constitution no longer applies.
here is the thing.
Prior to 2007 the policy was a parent must have lived in the USA for 5 years from her 14th birthday to vestow USA citizenship on a child born in another country. Stanely Ann did not meet that requirment
but NOW if you go to the usgov’t site for citizens it says any child born to any USA citizen is considered ‘ natural born”
it uses that exact phrase, as a cover for 0dumbo.
I hope soneome kept the pages from 2004 that address this so we can compare it to what is there now
It’s called aiding and abetting a felony. Pelosi will be the first to be tried.
Congress takes a hit for not doing its duty, but that's pretty much an every day shortcoming on everything - federalism, tax policy, spending policy -- all that is set by Congress.
It does not matter where BHO was born because he told us in his autobiography that his father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth. He is not “natural born”, just like Marco Rubio is not.
The Dirty “little” Secret Of The Natural Born Citizen Clause Revealed.
-clause-revealed/
and:
AMICUS BRIEF – Georgia POTUS Eligibility Cases.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2012/01/23/amicus-brief-georgia-potus-eligibility-cases/
Frank Marshall Davis is the real father and Obama knows it. Google Dreams from my real father.
At this point we literally have no idea where he was born, when, or who his parents were.
HI State Registrar, Alvin Onaka, just indirectly confirmed to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that the birth record they have for Obama is not legally valid, so Hawaii does NOT vouch for the claim that Obama was born in HI to BHO and Stanley Ann on Aug 4, 1961.
Obama has been using a birth certificate his whole life that is not from Hawaii. Presumably it is a legally-valid BC from somewhere else. Unless and until we see that legally-valid BC, there ARE NO legal birth facts for Obama, because the HI BC is not legally probative.
It’s not just that Obama lies with every breath he takes; it’s that there is no legal documentation to back up ANYTHING he’s claimed about his birth.
http://www.coachisright.com/howd-you-like-a-nice-hawaiian-sucker-punch/
I think the saddest thing about the Obama eligibility issue is that courts have been dodging making a clear pronouncement on whether “natural born citizen” should be understood in light of Vattel’s notion of “native” (born in country to two citizen parents) as in Minor v. Happersett, or in light of the English common law notion of “natural subject” (subject, or citizen in our case, at the time of birth) as in U.S. v Wong Kim Ark.
Obviously, regardless of where he was born, Obama would be ineligible to be President if the Vattel notion applies.
“Birtherism”, the position that Obama was born in Kenya (a notion that seems to have originated with Obama himself, or at least with his first literary publicist) is only relevant if the common law notion applies.
If, however, Obama was born in Kenya (or rather British East Africa), and his father was, in fact, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., not as some have claimed Frank Marshall Davis, then he not only is not a natural born citizen under either standard, but unless he was secretly naturalized, he is not even a citizen of the United States, since the prevailing law at the time would not have allowed a parent under the age of 21 to transmit citizenship to a child born outside the U.S. when the other parent was a foreign national. (The specification for transmission of citizenship being the parent be resident in the U.S. for ten years, five of which were after the age of 16. Ann Dunham was 18 at the time of Obama’s birth.) Obama would be a British subject, or could have claimed Kenyan citizenship upon Kenyan independence, and/or a citizen of Indonesia based on his mother and step-father’s application on his behalf, but would not a U.S. citizen at all, were he, in fact born in British East Africa.
“Hey, if Obama said he was born in Kenya (for 16 years), that’s good enough for me.”
Funny how Obama refuses to let his long form birth certificate go from Hawaii to any court in America, civilian or military.
So ...
a) Was Obama lying THEN
or
b) is Obama lying NOW?
I’ve come to the realization that the single greatest fear of birthers is that Obama just loses the election in 2012 because the economy is terrible.
There goes your whole hobby, nobody cares about the issue anymore, and it had nothing to do with Obama being removed from office.
natural born worked that way under the law in the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, 00’s to today.
It was even the case when states individually controlled immigration. born in the usa made a person natural born citizen.
One would think if that were true, and if he was born in Hawaii, then there’d be no problem. Though I don’t believe the latter, at least. But I’m not on the cowardly Supreme Court either.
Had not seen this before, VERY interesting.
“It does not matter where BHO was born because he told us in his autobiography that his father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth. He is not “natural born”, just like Marco Rubio is not.
The Dirty “little” Secret Of The Natural Born Citizen Clause Revealed.”
It does not matter where BHO was born because he told us in his autobiography that his father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth. He is not “natural born”, just like Marco Rubio is not.
The Dirty “little” Secret Of The Natural Born Citizen Clause Revealed.
-clause-revealed/
BHO is getting to be like Clinton in this respect: the “truth” is a lie that has yet to be discovered.
BHO is not even the first “black” president. His father was 87.5% Arab. In that respect we have had other presidents who had more black in their gene pool than BHO did. It is clear then that “black” is not a racial attribute. It is shorthand for how red he is.
And as far as I'm concerned, Obama and his mouthpieces should be hounded at every press conference about when he is going to apologize to the so-called birthers.
Wanna know my single greatest fear? That the country continues the lawlessness until we become “The Dark Knight”. And ya know something? That is GUARANTEED to happen, regardless of who is elected at any given point in time, where there are no checks and balances, no separation of powers, no rule of law, and no Constitution.
Your assumption that you know what makes me tick is arrogant beyond belief.
“I’ve come to the realization that the single greatest fear of birthers is that Obama just loses the election in 2012 because the economy is terrible.”
That is not my fear. I don’t know where you’re coming from.
“There goes your whole hobby, nobody cares about the issue anymore...”
Sorry. People of integrity still care when the Constitution is being trashed.
I hope you’re right but I hoped the same thing about the crooked Clintons so I won’t be holding my breath.
Correctomundo! Stop right here. The rest of what you say is unnecessary and will only confuse others as it did me.
If Obama is not a “Natural Born” citizen of the United States ........ Then WHO CARES what country he IS a citizen of?
I believe VERY STRONGLY that Obama is an ILLEGAL ALIEN (or just an alien from another planet. He may have been HATCHED). I digress.
“...nobody cares about the issue anymore...”
So what in your opinion is worthy of discussion? American Idol?
If I were you, I'd keep looking for another realization, then. There are worse things to fear, if you're into that sort of thing.
Original? That's tagline material, that is. I would suggest a simple correction:
"The truth is hate to those who hate the truth."
IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!!!
STOP! with the “dual citizen” nonsense.
What matters, is that Obama was not a “natural born citizen” AT BIRTH! He wasn't! End of discussion!
What other countries, or your parents, bestow on you in the way of citizenship, has no bearing on your U.S. citizenship.
Let me repeat that!
************What other countries, or your parents, bestow on you in the way of citizenship, has no bearing on your U.S. citizenship. *************
Your U.S. citizenship is closely guarded by the United States. Your parents can't give it away. Other countries can't take it away. Your citizenship status is automatically protected for you. You must renounce it yourself in writing or by certain specified actions, such as joining a foreign military etc., and you must have attained the age of “majority”. (sometimes 18, certainly 21).
We are talking about Obama as a child, so he was not old enough to have his citizenship status changed by ANYONE, not even himself.
http://www.americanlaw.com/dualcit.html
If he were not born in the U.S.A then it doesn't matter either. He can't be eligible for president if not born of the soil, physically born HERE!
He probably is not a NBC but this is NEVER going to matter...except to us that care...
or born of a jackal... just sayin’
Things worthy of dicussions are things that have a chance of happening or actually affecting something. I don’t see the point of living in an idealized fantasyland.
The idea that Obama would be removed from office before November, or removed from the ballot, is a delusional fantasy. That’s completely removed from the issue of whether he SHOULD be, it’s simply a reality of the current political structure and climate of the country (the “country” being a different entity than a group of conservative message boards and blogs).
It’s 1,000 times more a delusional fantasy that if Obama loses (which he probably will) that the issue would still be actually pursued afterwards, that judges that had been appointed by Obama would be removed, etc.
And I remain absolutely convinced that the average Birther, deep down (and they’d never admit it) would be disappointed if Obama simply lost the election, and would prefer that he win, so they can maintain the fantasy of his later removal from office due to legal action.
And as I’ve of course observed before, the Birther issue is completely worthless on the POLITICAL side (in terms of persuading people not to vote for Obama) because they only people that take it seriously are people that already didn’t vote for him in 2008 and certainly aren’t going to in 2012.
ANYONE who voted for Obama in 2008 considers birthers a bunch of kooks and no new evidence of any sort will change that. If they vote for Romney in 2012, it will because of the economy, etc., not because they doubt his legal status to be President.
I assure you the information has been kpet safe, and the law as it read in 1961 is the law of record. The father of record (whether he donated sperm or not) is a Kenyan national, so little barry bastard commie, aka Barack H. Obama, aka, Barry Soetoro, aka Barry Dunham is not nor ever will be a natural born citizen. The oath breakers sitting in House and Senate seats, and nine black-robed liars in the SCOTUS know he is not an NBC yet they gladly break their oath to OUR Constitution in order to allow the affirmative action fraud to continue in power. Now, ask yourself why so many are so willing to violate their oaths?
"Why does it say 9...9...9... right here?"
It was even the case when states individually controlled immigration. born in the usa made a person natural born citizen.
sorry, you're incorrect.
being born on US soil can make someone a US citizen... but NOT NECESSARILY a natural born citizen. if the person was born of foreign national parents, that person would be a dual citizen. OBVIOUSLY not a natural born citizen
the cold hard truth:
a natural born citizen is a citizen naturally, as there are no alternatives.
There is NO long form that was generated in 1961. There are fraudulently manufactured documents the little commie bastard has been using with the corrupt officials in Hawaii giving him the hall pass, but there is NO 1961 Long Form in Hawaii ... unless Abercrombie has been able to slip the latest forgery intot he files, but of course there will be telltale data points to reveal that fraud also. But it matters not a whit any longer because the oath violators in DC have canceled OUR Constitution.
That’s alright because whoever voted for Obama had to be a bunch of kooks.
I think it is likely Frank Marshall Davis is the father and he was born in Kenya. That would make him a natural born, with two US citizens as parents, problem is they covered it up, BC might say unknown for father.
I would add judges to your list as well. Or just maybe the Constitution doesn't say what you think it says. I'd venture to say that at least 90% of the population don't see anything in the Constitution or the law that requires citizen parents to be eligible which make those who do believe that to be a fringe element....no better than the occupy wall street protesters.
Since when is Hawaii another country? You would be correct if we could prove that nobamma was born in Kenya.
If it comes to that, judges and politicians will interpret the term “natural born citizen” so as to make him eligible. It would be too embarrassing for them to concede that they just stood by silently and let an unqualified person serve as president for a full term.
If necessary, they could interpret natural born citizen to include an Irish potato.
With Rubio waiting in the wings? NEVER!
Not until all convicted traitors are swinging from trees on the national mall.
Probably because they are NOT breaking their oaths.
Your condemnation of all nine judges and all members of congress for not believing what YOU believe is dogmatic in the least and insane at the worst.
Would you be AS upset if you believed the moon was made out of cheese and they disagreed with you on that as well? There is no proof that the moon is made out of cheese and there is no proof that presidents require citizen parents...it's all in your head. I'd get it seen to!
I can think of about a dozen folks need a neck stretching way before these traitors
Even more troubling is we have “conservative” media who refuse to cover the Eligibility story...even attacking and ridiculing those who do
By now, if you are supposedly “conservative media” and are still refusing to cover Obama Eligibility, and attacking those who want it covered....you are actively helping in Obama’s re-election
Not only has the GOP been chicken-poop scared....the so-called “conservative media” has been limp as well
I can think of about a dozen folks need a neck stretching way before these traitors
Then why all the fuss? There’s something phoney about the whole thing. Sometimes I wonder if Stanley is even his mother. Who knows anything about this freak? Even he’s likely tripped up over all his fakery somewhere along the line.
You do realize that the HDOH has recently indirectly confirmed that the record they have for Obama is not legally valid - which means that they knew both BC’s Obama posted were forgeries as well as the newspaper birth announcements, and that they knew he used a different BC his entire life.... and yet they deceived the whole country and world. Right?
And you think that doesn’t matter? If the whole system can lie to us about everything and keep the truth from making any difference, then exactly what DOES matter? What can’t they do to us, if the above is just tripe, as you say?
The issue at this point is whether there is enough solid fabric left in America to make it even possible to mend and patch this nation into a workable piece again. If none of the above matters, then we don’t have enough integrity for ANYTHING to make a difference. Maybe you’re right; maybe that’s where America is at. If so, stick a fork in her, ‘cause she’s done.
I’m holding on, just in case there are still enough people who want to live in America, and not the third-world cartel-controlled, lawless hellhole that America is fast becoming. Any system that allowed Obama to get in and do this to us is perfectly capable of turning Mitt Romney into the same thing. If you don’t see that, then you are deceiving yourself about how big an enemy America truly faces.
They’ve been threatened. That’s confirmed by Mike Zullo of Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse. And that’s another reason why this isn’t just about some tee-hee side issue. This issue was important enough that Soros’ people were willing to take even the CONSERVATIVE media hostage. And what’s even scarier is that Soros has something that is able to hold the entire conservative media hostage. I think it’s far bigger than just eligibility. I think Soros holds the entire system hostage to the threat of another run on the bank by he and his communist-Islamist alliance.
We are not talking piddles here. We are talking about things being so torn apart and dysfunctional that the Soros people believe they can do anything. And when you look at the breakneck speed at which Obama is claiming dictatorial powers - such as the right to assassinate US citizens for any reason at any time, no questions asked - I can’t help but ask, “Who would ever stop him from doing anything he darn well pleased? If this guy committed murder right in front of our faces, who would arrest him?”
I know first-hand what some of Obama’s lawlessness means. Brian Terry is not the only casualty of this regime’s murderous schemes - nor will he be the last. Mark my words.
Let me just give one more hint. We can’t even get a doctor to take a look at us without the government having a record of what the doctor found. That means that every assassination can be made to appear “natural”. Anybody who visits a doctor can be a sitting target. That’s the power that Obama has claimed and I don’t see Romney coming anywhere close to rebuking him for it.
We are lambs being led to the slaughter. If we refuse to see the corpses littering the path it’s our own darn fault when we’re next.
Obama was not born in Hawaii, nor was he in Hawaii within the first 30 days of his birth. If he had been, he would have a LEGALLY-VALID Hawaii birth certificate. But Alvin Onaka just indirectly confirmed to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that the birth record Hawaii has for Obama is not legally valid.
http://www.coachisright.com/howd-you-like-a-nice-hawaiian-sucker-punch/
Whatever BC Obama has been using his whole life - it was NOT from Hawaii. And Hawaii officials have known that all along.
I’d really like to believe all this but all I see is legal mumbo jumbo that makes no sense to me. Until ONE of you conspiracy kook can prove this BEYONE ANY DOUBT and legal minds believe it, then I’ll follow suit. I am reminded of the Jonestown massacre. People believed and died. I will not drink your kool aid!
No, I like American white cheese.
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